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  AppleWEBkit Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-05-12 04:30 +0200
    Re: AppleWEBkit Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2021-05-12 08:00 +0200
      Re: AppleWEBkit <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-05-12 09:50 +0200
        Re: AppleWEBkit deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-05-12 13:10 +0200
        Re: AppleWEBkit Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-05-12 17:40 +0200
          Re: AppleWEBkit Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-05-12 18:10 +0200
          Re: AppleWEBkit <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-05-12 18:20 +0200
      Re: AppleWEBkit Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-05-12 09:30 +0200

#235096 — AppleWEBkit

Just one question this time:

Is AppleWebKit a bot?

Thanks.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#235110

Hello,

On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 10:22:27PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Is AppleWebKit a bot?

"AppleWebKit" is found in the user agent of web browsers on macOS
and iOS, including Google Chrome.

https://developers.whatismybrowser.com/useragents/explore/layout_engine_name/webkit/

Since anyone can set any user agent, however, malicious bots often
pick the user agent of a regular web browser. So while you may see
bots using a user agent setting that contains that string, blocking
clients with that string in their user agent is not typically
helpful.

Cheers,
Andy

-- 
https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting

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On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 03:28:18AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:

[...]

> The recent thread involving the mac G5's intrigues me though, so its war 
> story time:
> 
> We bought a pair of them in a quite graphically capable editing kit for 
> commercial production, paid $25G's for the pair [...]

This G is for "grand", not "giga", right?

I knew Apples are expensive, but that would be... =:-o

Cheers
 - t

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#235124

tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:

> This G is for "grand", not "giga", right?
> 
> I knew Apples are expensive, but that would be... =:-o

25G in american english means 25000 and it is not only the machine itself
but the software included (for video processing)

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#235133

tomas@tuxteam.de [2021-05-12 09:42:33] wrote:
> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 03:28:18AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> [...]
>
>> The recent thread involving the mac G5's intrigues me though, so its war 
>> story time:
>> 
>> We bought a pair of them in a quite graphically capable editing kit for 
>> commercial production, paid $25G's for the pair [...]
>
> This G is for "grand", not "giga", right?

And here I was, thinking we were talking about the acceleration you
experience when the price finally hits you,


        Stefan

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#235134

On Wednesday 12 May 2021 11:37:13 Stefan Monnier wrote:

> tomas@tuxteam.de [2021-05-12 09:42:33] wrote:
> > On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 03:28:18AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > [...]
> >
> >> The recent thread involving the mac G5's intrigues me though, so
> >> its war story time:
> >>
> >> We bought a pair of them in a quite graphically capable editing kit
> >> for commercial production, paid $25G's for the pair [...]
> >
> > This G is for "grand", not "giga", right?
>
> And here I was, thinking we were talking about the acceleration you
> experience when the price finally hits you,
>
>
>         Stefan

Thank you for my lunchtime chuckle, Stefan. :)

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 11:37:13AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> tomas@tuxteam.de [2021-05-12 09:42:33] wrote:
> > On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 03:28:18AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > [...]
> >
> >> The recent thread involving the mac G5's intrigues me though, so its war 
> >> story time:
> >> 
> >> We bought a pair of them in a quite graphically capable editing kit for 
> >> commercial production, paid $25G's for the pair [...]
> >
> > This G is for "grand", not "giga", right?
> 
> And here I was, thinking we were talking about the acceleration you
> experience when the price finally hits you,

;-P

Actually I have the feeling the price *is* part of the
feature, along the lines "I can afford that. Can you?".
Call it perhaps a Stockholm Feature [1] or something.

Of course, a vendor can Stockholm you on dimensions
other than price...

Cheers
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
 - t

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#235117

On Wednesday 12 May 2021 01:57:51 Andy Smith wrote:

> Hello,
>
> On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 10:22:27PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Is AppleWebKit a bot?
>
> "AppleWebKit" is found in the user agent of web browsers on macOS
> and iOS, including Google Chrome.
>
> https://developers.whatismybrowser.com/useragents/explore/layout_engin
>e_name/webkit/
>
> Since anyone can set any user agent, however, malicious bots often
> pick the user agent of a regular web browser. So while you may see
> bots using a user agent setting that contains that string, blocking
> clients with that string in their user agent is not typically
> helpful.
>
> Cheers,
> Andy

Thank you Andy.  While they aren't using a great deal of my upload 
bandwidth, there sure are a lot of them. 

The recent thread involving the mac G5's intrigues me though, so its war 
story time:

We bought a pair of them in a quite graphically capable editing kit for 
commercial production, paid $25G's for the pair with the editing suite 
software. Lasted less than 6 months, apples cheap bushing fans failed 
and the air flow is so tightly controlled by blow molded inserts in 
those that one fan failure starts a fatal fire needing a fire 
extinguisher. And no warranty from apple in that event. An expen$ive 
lesson for a middle market (#165 at the time) tv station. Based on our 
experience, I didn't think there were any G5s surviving in TYOOL 2021. 

Our linux guy then built a total of 8, centos based machines with quality 
parts, equiping 4 editing bays with them as the station is now sourceing 
8 channels of television with two digital transmitters today. All served 
from 3 more centos servers he built, each capable of recording 4 
satellite channels at a time, while playing back 4 other channels from a 
huge raid array you can replace a failed drive in and it will be rebuilt 
while live on the air.

The owner died, his daughter sold it for 26 to grey about 3 years ago. 
The new broom declared they were a windows house, get rid of the linux. 
Funny thing though, the linux servers were never accused of a bsod. We 
let the make goods line of the P&L statement talk. You can't argue with 
success, so Linux is still there, working 24/7/365.25. The linux guy? 
Now works from home for the fbi at 3x what grey would pay.  Their loss 
IMO.  Now you know why windows is an endangered species at this old 
retired tv engineers home 20.

Take care and stay well everybody.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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