Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > linux.debian.user > #234695 > unrolled thread

Debian statistics about the contributing entities?

Back to article view | Back to linux.debian.user

Contents

  Debian statistics about the contributing entities? Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2021-05-01 15:10 +0200
    Re: Debian statistics about the contributing entities? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-05-01 16:50 +0200
      Re: Debian statistics about the contributing entities? Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-05-03 08:40 +0200
    Re: Debian statistics about the contributing entities? "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-05-01 17:10 +0200
    Re: Debian statistics about the contributing entities? Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-05-03 08:30 +0200

#234695 — Debian statistics about the contributing entities?

Hello,
Do we have for Debian some statistics about who (companies, 
institutions, universities, private volunteers, ...) are contributing to 
Debian, i.e. as package maintainers, admins, maybe Debian specific code 
programmers, and alike? I found the list of the Debian Developers, but 
this is only names not indicating which company (money) might be behind 
the names. Maybe this is summarized in a statistics about funding or 
sponsoring or supporters of the Debian project?
I recently saw statistics about who contributes to the Linux kernel 
(private volunteers summarized as a group vs the 20 most lines of code 
contributing companies by their name), which kind of shows its 
independence (or not) from singular commercial players and am now 
curious if there is some alike data about Debian available.
Thanks! Marco.

[toc] | [next] | [standalone]

#234696

On Saturday 01 May 2021 08:57:28 Marco Möller wrote:

> Hello,
> Do we have for Debian some statistics about who (companies,
> institutions, universities, private volunteers, ...) are contributing
> to Debian, i.e. as package maintainers, admins, maybe Debian specific
> code programmers, and alike? I found the list of the Debian
> Developers, but this is only names not indicating which company
> (money) might be behind the names. Maybe this is summarized in a
> statistics about funding or sponsoring or supporters of the Debian
> project?
> I recently saw statistics about who contributes to the Linux kernel
> (private volunteers summarized as a group vs the 20 most lines of code
> contributing companies by their name), which kind of shows its
> independence (or not) from singular commercial players and am now
> curious if there is some alike data about Debian available.
> Thanks! Marco.

Since RH went to a per seat fee for support, which it seems has been 
succesful at funding RH, and "tainted" the free software scene, the rest 
of the distro's have clammed up about financing, and TBT, I don't think 
its any of our business to even ask the question.

That said, if the 2 "projects" I use the most of, debian being one of 
them, do have to pass the hat or disappear, it doesn't bither me a bot 
to setup an annual support fee payable to whoever writes the checks for 
debian to keep the lights on.

Basically, those who use it, should support it, including monetarily if 
asked. Unforch international law variations makes that much more legally 
difficult than it should. Until I see the hat coming my way, its none of 
my business.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#234737

[Multipart message — attachments visible in raw view] — view raw

On Sb, 01 mai 21, 10:49:01, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 01 May 2021 08:57:28 Marco Möller wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > Do we have for Debian some statistics about who (companies,
> > institutions, universities, private volunteers, ...) are contributing
> > to Debian, i.e. as package maintainers, admins, maybe Debian specific
> > code programmers, and alike? I found the list of the Debian
> > Developers, but this is only names not indicating which company
> > (money) might be behind the names. Maybe this is summarized in a
> > statistics about funding or sponsoring or supporters of the Debian
> > project?
> > I recently saw statistics about who contributes to the Linux kernel
> > (private volunteers summarized as a group vs the 20 most lines of code
> > contributing companies by their name), which kind of shows its
> > independence (or not) from singular commercial players and am now
> > curious if there is some alike data about Debian available.
> > Thanks! Marco.
> 
> Since RH went to a per seat fee for support, which it seems has been 
> succesful at funding RH, and "tainted" the free software scene, the rest 
> of the distro's have clammed up about financing, and TBT, I don't think 
> its any of our business to even ask the question.

While I believe it's perfectly fine - and desirable - to have successful 
commercial enterprises based on FLOSS, transparency in financing is 
generally a good thing in my opinion, especially when the projects are 
backed by non-profit organisations (anonymity of donors 
notwithstanding).

Kind regards,
Andrei
-- 
http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#234698

On Sat, May 01, 2021 at 02:57:28PM +0200, Marco Möller wrote:
> Hello,
> Do we have for Debian some statistics about who (companies, institutions,
> universities, private volunteers, ...) are contributing to Debian, i.e. as
> package maintainers, admins, maybe Debian specific code programmers, and
> alike? I found the list of the Debian Developers, but this is only names not
> indicating which company (money) might be behind the names. Maybe this is
> summarized in a statistics about funding or sponsoring or supporters of the
> Debian project?
> I recently saw statistics about who contributes to the Linux kernel (private
> volunteers summarized as a group vs the 20 most lines of code contributing
> companies by their name), which kind of shows its independence (or not) from
> singular commercial players and am now curious if there is some alike data
> about Debian available.
> Thanks! Marco.
> 
Debian is primarily a community project made up of volunteers. Some of us
are in full time employment but there's a huge range of contributors and
a wider range of users.

Debian is, effectively, a non-profit organisation. We're associated with
the US Software in the Public Interest umbrella organisation that manages
funds for many different projects: we also have generous sponsorship in
hardware, money or services from various organisations especially for
the annual Debian conference [DebConf] and several mini conferences
[MiniConf].

Not sure we can break down who is who other than the fact that there
are nominally 1018 Debian developers eligible to vote and lots more
Debian maintainers.

This may not be much help to you, but it's a start :)

All the very best, as ever,

Andy Cater

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#234736

[Multipart message — attachments visible in raw view] — view raw

On Sb, 01 mai 21, 14:57:28, Marco Möller wrote:
> Hello,
> Do we have for Debian some statistics about who (companies, institutions,
> universities, private volunteers, ...) are contributing to Debian, i.e. as
> package maintainers, admins, maybe Debian specific code programmers, and
> alike? I found the list of the Debian Developers, but this is only names not
> indicating which company (money) might be behind the names. Maybe this is
> summarized in a statistics about funding or sponsoring or supporters of the
> Debian project?

There's also

    https://contributors.debian.org

    https://www.debian.org/partners


> I recently saw statistics about who contributes to the Linux kernel (private
> volunteers summarized as a group vs the 20 most lines of code contributing
> companies by their name), which kind of shows its independence (or not) from
> singular commercial players and am now curious if there is some alike data
> about Debian available.

Many (most?) contributions are in a personal capacity, regardless of the 
employer. As far as I know there is no requirement to disclose 
affiliation or even use the company e-mail address when contributing on 
behalf of an employer.


Kind regards,
Andrei
-- 
http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

[toc] | [prev] | [standalone]

Back to top | Article view | linux.debian.user

csiph-web