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  Monthly FAQ for Debian-user mailing list "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-09-01 14:40 +0200
    Re: Monthly FAQ for Debian-user mailing list Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-09-01 19:20 +0200
      Re: Monthly FAQ for Debian-user mailing list David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-09-01 19:30 +0200
        Re: Monthly FAQ for Debian-user mailing list Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-09-01 19:40 +0200
        Re: Monthly FAQ for Debian-user mailing list Keith Bainbridge <keithrboz@gmail.com> - 2021-09-02 03:10 +0200
      Re: Monthly FAQ for Debian-user mailing list Keith Bainbridge <keithrboz@gmail.com> - 2021-09-02 02:30 +0200
      Re: Monthly FAQ for Debian-user mailing list "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-09-02 11:50 +0200
        Re: Monthly FAQ for Debian-user mailing list David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-09-03 02:40 +0200

#239556 — Monthly FAQ for Debian-user mailing list

debian-user is a mailing list provided for support for Debian users,
and to facilitate discussion on relevant topics. 

Some guidelines which may help explain how the list works:

* The language on this mailing list is English. There may be other mailing 
  lists that are language-specific for example debian-user-french 

* It is common for users to be redirected here from other lists - for example,
  from debian-project. It is also common for people to be posting here when 
  English is not their primary language. Please be considerate.

* The list is a Debian communication forum. As such, it is subject to both 
  the Debian mailing list Code of Conduct and the main Debian Code of Conduct

 https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct
 https://www.debian.org/code_of_conduct

* This is a fairly busy mailing list and you may have to wait for an
  answer - please be patient. Please post answers back to the list so
  others can benefit; private conversations don't benefit people who
  may be following along on the list or reading the archives later.

* Help and advice on this list is provided by volunteers in their own time.
  It is common for there to be different opinions or answers provided.

 * Please try to stay on topic. Arguments for the sake of it are not
   welcome here. Partisan political / religious / cultural arguments
   do not belong here either. Debian's community is world wide; don't
   assume others will agree with your views or need to read them on a
   Debian list.

* There is an FAQ on the Debian wiki derived from some questions asked on this
  list at https://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

* One question that comes up on almost all Debian lists from time to time is of
  the form: 
  "I have done something wrong / included personal details in an email.
   Could you please delete my name / details / remove the mail"
  
Practically, this is impossible: the mailing lists are archived, potentially 
cached by Google and so on. Unfortunately, there is nothing much we can do to 
ensure that all copies anywhere on the Internet are deleted. Asking to do this
may only serve to draw further attention - the so-called "Streisand effect" 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

Problems?
=========

Complaints about inappropriate behaviour should be referred to the
Debian Community Team <community@debian.org>.

Inappropriate behaviour on the list may lead to warnings; repeated bad
behaviour may lead to temporary or permanent bans for offenders.

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#239566

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On Mi, 01 sep 21, 12:32:19, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> debian-user is a mailing list provided for support for Debian users,
> and to facilitate discussion on relevant topics. 
> 
> Some guidelines which may help explain how the list works:
> 
> * The language on this mailing list is English. There may be other mailing 
>   lists that are language-specific for example debian-user-french 

It might be good advertising to also mention other languages here, e.g 
go through the list of languages in alphabetic order, or something like 
that ;)

Kind regards,
Andrei
-- 
http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

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#239567

On Wed 01 Sep 2021 at 20:12:06 (+0300), Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Mi, 01 sep 21, 12:32:19, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > debian-user is a mailing list provided for support for Debian users,
> > and to facilitate discussion on relevant topics. 
> > 
> > Some guidelines which may help explain how the list works:
> > 
> > * The language on this mailing list is English. There may be other mailing 
> >   lists that are language-specific for example debian-user-french 
> 
> It might be good advertising to also mention other languages here, e.g 
> go through the list of languages in alphabetic order, or something like 
> that ;)

Would a link to https://lists.debian.org/users.html suffice?
I think we can assume that Debian users will be able to recognise
the name of their own language in English.

Cheers,
David.

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#239569

On Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 12:23:09PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 01 Sep 2021 at 20:12:06 (+0300), Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Mi, 01 sep 21, 12:32:19, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > > debian-user is a mailing list provided for support for Debian users,
> > > and to facilitate discussion on relevant topics. 
> > > 
> > > Some guidelines which may help explain how the list works:
> > > 
> > > * The language on this mailing list is English. There may be other mailing 
> > >   lists that are language-specific for example debian-user-french 
> > 
> > It might be good advertising to also mention other languages here, e.g 
> > go through the list of languages in alphabetic order, or something like 
> > that ;)
> 
> Would a link to https://lists.debian.org/users.html suffice?
> I think we can assume that Debian users will be able to recognise
> the name of their own language in English.

If they can't, then Andrew's FAQ (written in English) probably isn't
going to help them anyway.

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#239580

On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 12:23:09 -0500 David Wright
<deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:

> On Wed 01 Sep 2021 at 20:12:06 (+0300), Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Mi, 01 sep 21, 12:32:19, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:  
> > > debian-user is a mailing list provided for support for Debian
> > > users, and to facilitate discussion on relevant topics. 
> > > 
> > > Some guidelines which may help explain how the list works:
> > > 
> > > * The language on this mailing list is English. There may be
> > > other mailing lists that are language-specific for example
> > > debian-user-french   
> > 
> > It might be good advertising to also mention other languages here,
> > e.g go through the list of languages in alphabetic order, or
> > something like that ;)  
> 
> Would a link to https://lists.debian.org/users.html suffice?
> I think we can assume that Debian users will be able to recognise
> the name of their own language in English.
> 
> Cheers,
> David.
> 



Very good


--
All the best

Keith Bainbridge
keith.bainbridge.3216@gmail.com

0447 667 468

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#239579

On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 20:12:06 +0300 Andrei POPESCU
<andreimpopescu@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mi, 01 sep 21, 12:32:19, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > debian-user is a mailing list provided for support for Debian users,
> > and to facilitate discussion on relevant topics. 
> > 
> > Some guidelines which may help explain how the list works:
> > 
> > * The language on this mailing list is English. There may be other
> > mailing lists that are language-specific for example
> > debian-user-french   
> 
> It might be good advertising to also mention other languages here,
> e.g go through the list of languages in alphabetic order, or
> something like that ;)
> 
> Kind regards,
> Andrei

Or supply the link to the list of alternate languages - to save having
to check/update the template email every month




--
All the best

Keith Bainbridge
keith.bainbridge.3216@gmail.com

0447 667 468

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#239582

On Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 08:12:06PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Mi, 01 sep 21, 12:32:19, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > debian-user is a mailing list provided for support for Debian users,
> > and to facilitate discussion on relevant topics. 
> > 
> > Some guidelines which may help explain how the list works:
> > 
> > * The language on this mailing list is English. There may be other mailing 
> >   lists that are language-specific for example debian-user-french 
> 
> It might be good advertising to also mention other languages here, e.g 
> go through the list of languages in alphabetic order, or something like 
> that ;)
> 
> Kind regards,
> Andrei
> -- 
> http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

I'd be quite happy to do (poor) translations into French/Italian and Spanish
for the respective user lists :) Many of the smaller lists have become 
magnets for spam postings, unfortunately - and there's probably a case
for asking the listmasters to discontinue them.

All the very best, as ever,

Andy Cater

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#239602

On Thu 02 Sep 2021 at 09:46:33 (+0000), Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 08:12:06PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Mi, 01 sep 21, 12:32:19, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > > debian-user is a mailing list provided for support for Debian users,
> > > and to facilitate discussion on relevant topics. 
> > > 
> > > Some guidelines which may help explain how the list works:
> > > 
> > > * The language on this mailing list is English. There may be other mailing 
> > >   lists that are language-specific for example debian-user-french 
> > 
> > It might be good advertising to also mention other languages here, e.g 
> > go through the list of languages in alphabetic order, or something like 
> > that ;)
> 
> I'd be quite happy to do (poor) translations into French/Italian and Spanish
> for the respective user lists :)

Another thing to maintain.

> Many of the smaller lists have become 
> magnets for spam postings, unfortunately - and there's probably a case
> for asking the listmasters to discontinue them.

The advantages of the link I posted are:
. self-maintaining (by the linkmasters),
. as that page contains links to each other list's archives, users
  can form an instant judgement as to their usefulness by clicking
  on a recent month.

Cheers,
David.

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