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ifupdown lost at upgrade time to bullseye

Started byHarald Dunkel <harri@afaics.de>
First post2021-08-30 21:40 +0200
Last post2021-08-31 16:10 +0200
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  ifupdown lost at upgrade time to bullseye Harald Dunkel <harri@afaics.de> - 2021-08-30 21:40 +0200
    Re: ifupdown lost at upgrade time to bullseye Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-30 22:00 +0200
    Re: ifupdown lost at upgrade time to bullseye Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-08-30 22:00 +0200
      Re: ifupdown lost at upgrade time to bullseye Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2021-08-31 04:50 +0200
      Re: ifupdown lost at upgrade time to bullseye Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2021-08-31 16:30 +0200
    Re: ifupdown lost at upgrade time to bullseye David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-08-31 16:10 +0200

#239470 — ifupdown lost at upgrade time to bullseye

FromHarald Dunkel <harri@afaics.de>
Date2021-08-30 21:40 +0200
Subjectifupdown lost at upgrade time to bullseye
Message-ID<CRViq-1n4-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
Hi folks,
how comes ifupdown is dropped at upgrade time to bullseye, leaving the (headless) system without network connection while the upgrade is not completed yet, and breaking network on the next reboot?
Regards
Harri

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#239472

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2021-08-30 22:00 +0200
Message-ID<CRVBL-1tH-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#239470
On Mon 30 Aug 2021 at 21:37:50 +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote:

> Hi folks,
> how comes ifupdown is dropped at upgrade time to bullseye, leaving the
> (headless) system without network connection while the upgrade is not


That's a good question. Completely devoid of infirmation. But still a
good question :).

-- 
Brian.

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#239476

FromDan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org>
Date2021-08-30 22:00 +0200
Message-ID<CRVBM-1tH-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#239470
Harald Dunkel wrote: 
> how comes ifupdown is dropped at upgrade time to bullseye, leaving the (headless) system without network connection while the upgrade is not completed yet, and breaking network on the next reboot?

This has not yet happened to me in nine or ten upgrades to
bullseye; all but two of them depended on
/etc/network/interfaces and nothing weird happened regarding
ifupdown.

-dsr-

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#239502

FromJude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com>
Date2021-08-31 04:50 +0200
Message-ID<CS20x-5Ma-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#239476
Is iwctl part of default bullseye installations?  Maybe networkd.service
can be used with systemd this I haven't tried since I'm using ethernet but
do have wi-fi capability.  I could try these avenues and see if they're
open.


On Mon, 30 Aug 2021, Dan Ritter wrote:

> Harald Dunkel wrote:
> > how comes ifupdown is dropped at upgrade time to bullseye, leaving the (headless) system without network connection while the upgrade is not completed yet, and breaking network on the next reboot?
>
> This has not yet happened to me in nine or ten upgrades to
> bullseye; all but two of them depended on
> /etc/network/interfaces and nothing weird happened regarding
> ifupdown.
>
> -dsr-
>
>

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#239523

FromMichael Stone <mstone@debian.org>
Date2021-08-31 16:30 +0200
Message-ID<CScVY-4Tm-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#239476
On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 03:56:09PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
>Harald Dunkel wrote:
>> how comes ifupdown is dropped at upgrade time to bullseye, leaving the (headless) system without network connection while the upgrade is not completed yet, and breaking network on the next reboot?
>
>This has not yet happened to me in nine or ten upgrades to
>bullseye; all but two of them depended on
>/etc/network/interfaces and nothing weird happened regarding
>ifupdown.

+1 

We'd need more information to diagnose the problem.

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#239519

FromDavid Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Date2021-08-31 16:10 +0200
Message-ID<CScCC-4N1-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#239470
On Mon 30 Aug 2021 at 21:37:50 (+0200), Harald Dunkel wrote:

> how comes ifupdown is dropped at upgrade time to bullseye, leaving the (headless) system without network connection while the upgrade is not completed yet, and breaking network on the next reboot?

I would presume that a headless system qualifies for the treatment
outlined in the Release Notes §4.1.3, and perhaps you could be just
plain unlucky if hit by the scenario in footnote ².

Cheers,
David.

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