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  New SSD card for old dell 850 juh <juh+debian@mailbox.org> - 2021-08-25 14:10 +0200
    Re: New SSD card for old dell 850 Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2021-08-25 15:00 +0200
    Re: New SSD card for old dell 850 Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-08-25 15:10 +0200
    Re: New SSD card for old dell 850 David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2021-08-25 20:30 +0200

#239298 — New SSD card for old dell 850

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Dear all,

there is a LITEONIT LMT-32L3M (LWDA) in my dell xps 850 desktop computer.  I use it for the boot and system partitions, home is on a hard disk.

The SSD only has 32GB and I am pondering whether I can just attach a
bigger one and reinstall debian mounting / and /home to the ssd and using the hard disk for
archives.

Here is picture of it:
https://www.ebay.com/p/668700327

But I fear that it requires a sort of miniPCI interface that modern SSDs does not
have. Can anyone confirm this or even better hint to a compatible
product?

TIA
juh

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juh <juh+debian@mailbox.org> writes:

> But I fear that it requires a sort of miniPCI interface that modern SSDs does not
> have. Can anyone confirm this or even better hint to a compatible
> product?

LITEONIT LMT-32L3M seems to be an mSATA drive. Those are around at least
up to 500 GB in size.

Another possibility could be to get a 2.5" SATA SSD and a mounting
bracket to fit it into a 3.5" drive bay. I think some models even used
to come with such a bracket. Should offer more capacity for less than
mSATA drives.

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#239301

On Wednesday 25 August 2021 07:59:50 juh wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> there is a LITEONIT LMT-32L3M (LWDA) in my dell xps 850 desktop
> computer.  I use it for the boot and system partitions, home is on a
> hard disk.
>
> The SSD only has 32GB and I am pondering whether I can just attach a
> bigger one and reinstall debian mounting / and /home to the ssd and
> using the hard disk for archives.
>
> Here is picture of it:
> https://www.ebay.com/p/668700327

Which is called an mSATA interface, and if you scroll down, there are 
links to mSATA LiteOn drives up to 128GB for under a $30 bill.
Seems like a relatively low risk gamble to get one and try it.

<https://www.ebay.com/p/1282481418?iid=234065274043>

> But I fear that it requires a sort of miniPCI interface that modern
> SSDs does not have. Can anyone confirm this or even better hint to a
> compatible product?
>
> TIA
> juh


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#239308

On 8/25/21 4:59 AM, juh wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> there is a LITEONIT LMT-32L3M (LWDA) in my dell xps 850 desktop computer.  I use it for the boot and system partitions, home is on a hard disk.
> 
> The SSD only has 32GB and I am pondering whether I can just attach a
> bigger one and reinstall debian mounting / and /home to the ssd and using the hard disk for
> archives.
> 
> Here is picture of it:
> https://www.ebay.com/p/668700327
> 
> But I fear that it requires a sort of miniPCI interface that modern SSDs does not
> have. Can anyone confirm this or even better hint to a compatible
> product?
> 
> TIA
> juh


Do you mean XPS 8500?

https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-us/product-support/product/xps-8500/overview


What is the service tag?


My guess is that the computer came with Windows and the 32 GB mSATA SSD 
was used to accelerate the HDD.  You are fortunate that you can install 
and boot Linux on the SSD; some machines and/or cache SSD's cannot do that.


I prefer to keep my OS images small enough to fit onto "16 GB" devices 
-- SSD, SD card, USB flash drive, HDD, etc. -- and put my bulk data on a 
file server.  This facilitates imaging/ cloning for migrations (Debian N 
-> Debian N+1) and disaster preparedness/ recovery, etc..


The Specifications show:

https://downloads.dell.com/manuals/all-products/esuprt_desktop/esuprt_xps_desktop/xps-8500_reference%20guide_en-us.pdf

Drives
Externally accessible	two 5.25-inch optical drives
Drives supported	• Blu-ray writer and DVD+/-RW
			• Blu-ray reader and DVD+/-RW combo
			• DVD+/-RW
Internally accessible	• two 3.5-inch SATA hard drives
			• one mSATA SSD
RAID support (internal SATA drives only)
			RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 5, and RAID 10


I would leave Debian on the SSD.  I would add a second HDD, set up RAID 
(I prefer ZFS), and put the /home filesystem there.  For backups/ 
archives, I would install 3.5" SATA drive racks in the 5.25" external 
bays and/or connect USB 3.0 external HDD's..


David

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