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how to to start X Window in debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso

Started bylou <loushanguan2015@sina.com>
First post2021-08-15 05:10 +0200
Last post2021-08-15 06:30 +0200
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  how to to start X Window in debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso lou <loushanguan2015@sina.com> - 2021-08-15 05:10 +0200
    Re: how to to start X Window in debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-08-15 05:10 +0200
      Re: how to to start X Window in debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso lou <loushanguan2015@sina.com> - 2021-08-15 05:30 +0200
        Re: how to to start X Window in debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso Jeremy Ardley <jeremy@ardley.org> - 2021-08-15 05:40 +0200
          Re: how to to start X Window in  debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso "sp007@caiway.net" <sp007@caiway.net> - 2021-08-15 16:30 +0200
            Re: how to to start X Window in debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-08-15 16:40 +0200
              Re: how to to start X Window in  debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso "sp007@caiway.net" <sp007@caiway.net> - 2021-08-15 16:50 +0200
              Re: how to to start X Window in debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-08-15 17:20 +0200
        Re: how to to start X Window in debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-08-15 16:10 +0200
    Re: how to to start X Window in debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-08-15 05:40 +0200
      Re: how to to start X Window in debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso lou <loushanguan2015@sina.com> - 2021-08-15 06:30 +0200

#238695 — how to to start X Window in debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso

Fromlou <loushanguan2015@sina.com>
Date2021-08-15 05:10 +0200
Subjecthow to to start X Window in debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso
Message-ID<CMeH8-4ew-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
i've copied debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso  to USB stick and run it

X app are included, but how to start X Window?

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#238696

FromWeaver <weaver@riseup.net>
Date2021-08-15 05:10 +0200
Message-ID<CMeH8-4ew-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238695
On 15-08-2021 13:03, lou wrote:
> i've copied debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso  to USB stick and run it
> 
> X app are included, but how to start X Window?

At the prompt, type `startx'.
Depending on permissions, you may need to become root.
Cheers!

Harry.

-- 
`Unthinking respect for authority is 
the greatest enemy of truth'.
-- Albert Einstein

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#238697

Fromlou <loushanguan2015@sina.com>
Date2021-08-15 05:30 +0200
Message-ID<CMf0t-4lr-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238696
On 8/14/21 11:08 PM, Weaver wrote:
>
> At the prompt, type `startx'.
> Depending on permissions, you may need to become root.
> Cheers!
>
> Harry.
>

startx don't seem to be included in ISO image

and what is password for root?

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#238699

FromJeremy Ardley <jeremy@ardley.org>
Date2021-08-15 05:40 +0200
Message-ID<CMfa9-4p4-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238697

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On 15/8/21 11:22 am, lou wrote:
>
> and what is password for root?
>
You should be able to do

sudo passwd root

and set your own password


-- 
Jeremy

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#238732 — Re: how to to start X Window in debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso

From"sp007@caiway.net" <sp007@caiway.net>
Date2021-08-15 16:30 +0200
SubjectRe: how to to start X Window in debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso
Message-ID<CMpjc-2M4-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238699
On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 11:30:07 +0800
Jeremy Ardley <jeremy@ardley.org> wrote:

then these X apps are to be run remotely

> On 15/8/21 11:22 am, lou wrote:
> >
> > and what is password for root?
> >
> You should be able to do
> 
> sudo passwd root
> 
> and set your own password
> 
> 

Thanks for the tips lou & Jeremy

lou what about
# apt install xorg fluxbox

$ startx

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#238734

FromGreg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org>
Date2021-08-15 16:40 +0200
Message-ID<CMpsR-2P8-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238732
On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 04:13:37PM +0200, sp007@caiway.net wrote:
> lou what about
> # apt install xorg fluxbox
> 
> $ startx

In theory that might work (you may also need firmware), but the amount
of bandwidth you'd burn through downloading *all* those packages each
and every time you boot the live image would be an appalling waste.

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#238737 — Re: how to to start X Window in debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso

From"sp007@caiway.net" <sp007@caiway.net>
Date2021-08-15 16:50 +0200
SubjectRe: how to to start X Window in debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso
Message-ID<CMpCy-2Sz-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238734
On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 10:30:27 -0400
Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 04:13:37PM +0200, sp007@caiway.net wrote:
> > lou what about
> > # apt install xorg fluxbox
> > 
> > $ startx
> 
> In theory that might work (you may also need firmware), but the amount
> of bandwidth you'd burn through downloading *all* those packages each
> and every time you boot the live image would be an appalling waste.
> 

with a local repository ...

but you are right, perhaps it seems not a smart thing to do

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#238744

FromStefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Date2021-08-15 17:20 +0200
Message-ID<CMq5A-3iE-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238734
Greg Wooledge [2021-08-15 10:30:27] wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 04:13:37PM +0200, sp007@caiway.net wrote:
>> lou what about
>> # apt install xorg fluxbox
>> 
>> $ startx
>
> In theory that might work (you may also need firmware), but the amount
> of bandwidth you'd burn through downloading *all* those packages each
> and every time you boot the live image would be an appalling waste.

I expect the vast majority of Debian Live images nowadays are written to
USB flash storage rather than to read-only media, so I think it would
make a lot of sense for those live images to offer the ability to change
the image with things like `apt install`.

Personally, I've used (minimal) "normal Debian installs" instead of
Debian Live for that reason.


        Stefan

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#238730

From"Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com>
Date2021-08-15 16:10 +0200
Message-ID<CMoZP-2FF-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238697
On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 11:22:12PM -0400, lou wrote:
> 
> On 8/14/21 11:08 PM, Weaver wrote:
> > 
> > At the prompt, type `startx'.
> > Depending on permissions, you may need to become root.
> > Cheers!
> > 
> > Harry.
> > 
> 
> startx don't seem to be included in ISO image
> 
> and what is password for root?
> 

Debian-standard live image? Doesn't include X / X apps - it's just the
core of Debian - standard packages, command line only.

Default user name is user - default is to use sudo (I think) so sudo su -
will get you a root prompt.

Use one of the other images that have gnome/cinnamon or similar in their names

Hope this helps,

Andy Cater

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#238698

FromGreg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org>
Date2021-08-15 05:40 +0200
Message-ID<CMfaa-4p4-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238695
On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 11:03:37PM -0400, lou wrote:
> i've copied debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso  to USB stick and run it
> 
> X app are included, but how to start X Window?

The "-standard" in the image name means that this is a "Standard" Debian
installation, with no Desktop Environment.  It probably doesn't have an X
server either, or X fonts, or any of the other things you would need in
order to actually run an X session locally.

A quick web search found a list of the packages on this image:

https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard.packages

As I expected, there is no X server, even though there are a few X
client programs.  There's no way you'll be able to start an X session
from this image.  It's meant for console/server use only.

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#238700

Fromlou <loushanguan2015@sina.com>
Date2021-08-15 06:30 +0200
Message-ID<CMfWx-58D-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238698
On 8/14/21 11:32 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
> The "-standard" in the image name means that this is a "Standard" Debian
> installation, with no Desktop Environment.  It probably doesn't have an X
> server either, or X fonts, or any of the other things you would need in
> order to actually run an X session locally.
>
> A quick web search found a list of the packages on this image:
>
> https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard.packages
>
> As I expected, there is no X server, even though there are a few X
> client programs.  There's no way you'll be able to start an X session
> from this image.  It's meant for console/server use only.
>
>
Thank Greg Wooledge!

then these X apps are to be run remotely

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