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All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

Started byNicolas George <george@nsup.org>
First post2021-08-10 16:20 +0200
Last post2021-08-14 18:20 +0200
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  All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2021-08-10 16:20 +0200
    Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Peter Ehlert <pb21a@sdi-baja.com> - 2021-08-10 16:40 +0200
    Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2021-08-10 16:50 +0200
      Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-10 18:20 +0200
        Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2021-08-10 19:10 +0200
          Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-10 19:50 +0200
            Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2021-08-10 20:20 +0200
              Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Erwan David <erwan@rail.eu.org> - 2021-08-10 21:00 +0200
                Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-10 21:50 +0200
                  Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Erwan David <erwan@rail.eu.org> - 2021-08-11 08:10 +0200
                    Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-11 12:20 +0200
                      Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-08-11 12:50 +0200
                        Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-11 14:10 +0200
              Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-10 21:00 +0200
                Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2021-08-11 09:30 +0200
                  Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-11 12:40 +0200
                    Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-08-11 14:10 +0200
                      Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-08-11 14:20 +0200
                      Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2021-08-11 14:30 +0200
                        Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-11 15:00 +0200
                      Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-11 14:40 +0200
                    Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Erwan David <erwan@rail.eu.org> - 2021-08-11 14:20 +0200
                      Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-11 16:10 +0200
                        Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Erwan David <erwan@rail.eu.org> - 2021-08-11 16:30 +0200
                          Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-11 17:00 +0200
                    Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2021-08-11 14:20 +0200
                      Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-11 14:50 +0200
    Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-10 17:10 +0200
      Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2021-08-10 17:20 +0200
      Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Erwan David <erwan@rail.eu.org> - 2021-08-10 20:00 +0200
        Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-10 21:00 +0200
        Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-11 10:30 +0200
          Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-11 13:40 +0200
    Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-11 00:30 +0200
      Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2021-08-11 09:20 +0200
        Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-11 09:40 +0200
          Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2021-08-11 09:50 +0200
            Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) Cindy Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2021-08-11 09:50 +0200
              Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-11 10:10 +0200
                Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2021-08-11 12:30 +0200
                  Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-08-11 14:40 +0200
                    Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2021-08-12 17:50 +0200
                      Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-08-12 18:50 +0200
                        Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2021-08-12 19:20 +0200
                          Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-12 19:50 +0200
                          Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-12 21:50 +0200
                Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-11 13:30 +0200
                  Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-08-11 14:30 +0200
                    Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-11 15:40 +0200
                Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-08-11 13:30 +0200
                  Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) Tony van der Hoff <lists@vanderhoff.org> - 2021-08-11 14:30 +0200
                    Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com> - 2021-08-11 15:30 +0200
                      Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-11 15:50 +0200
                  Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-08-11 15:40 +0200
                  Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet  8012) Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2021-08-11 17:50 +0200
                    Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet  8012) Bob Bernstein <poobah@ruptured-duck.com> - 2021-08-11 21:00 +0200
            End of the line [ was Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One  printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)] Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-11 10:00 +0200
              Re: End of the line [ was Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One  printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)] Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2021-08-11 10:10 +0200
                Re: End of the line [ was Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One  printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)] Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-11 10:20 +0200
        Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-11 20:10 +0200
      Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-12 21:30 +0200
        Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-12 21:40 +0200
          Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-13 00:30 +0200
            Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-13 01:00 +0200
              Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-13 12:20 +0200
                Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-13 12:40 +0200
                  Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-13 13:10 +0200
            Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-13 01:10 +0200
              Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-14 20:50 +0200
                Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-14 21:40 +0200
                  Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-14 23:50 +0200
            Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 deloptes <emanoil.kotsev@deloptes.org> - 2021-08-13 07:10 +0200
              Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-08-13 07:30 +0200
              Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-13 08:20 +0200
                OFFTOPIC Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 deloptes <emanoil.kotsev@deloptes.org> - 2021-08-13 08:50 +0200
                  Re: OFFTOPIC Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-13 09:00 +0200
                    Re: OFFTOPIC Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 deloptes <emanoil.kotsev@deloptes.org> - 2021-08-13 09:00 +0200
                  Re: OFFTOPIC Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 rhkramer@gmail.com - 2021-08-13 13:50 +0200
                    Re: OFFTOPIC Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 deloptes <emanoil.kotsev@deloptes.org> - 2021-08-13 13:50 +0200
                      Re: OFFTOPIC Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 ellanios82 <ellanios82@gmail.com> - 2021-08-13 14:10 +0200
                    Re: OFFTOPIC Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-13 14:00 +0200
              Re: Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-08-13 09:10 +0200
                Re: Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-13 10:00 +0200
              Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-13 18:20 +0200
              Meta: behavior on list Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-08-13 18:50 +0200
                Re: Meta: behavior on list Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-08-13 19:00 +0200
                  Re: Meta: behavior on list John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2021-08-13 19:40 +0200
                  Re: Meta: behavior on list Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-13 21:20 +0200
                Re: Meta: behavior on list The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-08-13 19:00 +0200
                Re: Meta: behavior on list Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-13 19:00 +0200
                  Re: Meta: behavior on list <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-13 19:20 +0200
                    [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-08-13 22:20 +0200
                      Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2021-08-13 23:10 +0200
                        Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-13 23:20 +0200
                          Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-08-13 23:40 +0200
                            Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-13 23:40 +0200
                              Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-08-14 00:00 +0200
                          Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) ellanios82 <ellanios82@gmail.com> - 2021-08-14 00:00 +0200
                        Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-08-13 23:40 +0200
                          Re: [OFFTOPIC] Punked was [Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)] Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-13 23:40 +0200
                        Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-08-14 01:20 +0200
                          Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2021-08-14 01:50 +0200
                          Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-14 02:30 +0200
                            Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-08-14 07:10 +0200
                      Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-14 08:30 +0200
                        Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2021-08-14 14:40 +0200
                          Re: [OFFTOPIC] 1149 (was: lonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-14 14:50 +0200
                            Re: [OFFTOPIC] 1149 (was: lonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)) Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-08-14 15:20 +0200
                              Re: [OFFTOPIC] CoCo and oldies (was : 1149 (was: lonk / was: Meta:  behavior on list)) Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-14 15:30 +0200
                          Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) Erwan David <erwan@rail.eu.org> - 2021-08-14 15:00 +0200
                          Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2021-08-14 17:10 +0200
                            Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) Michael Howard <mike@dewberryfields.co.uk> - 2021-08-14 21:10 +0200
                              Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-14 21:30 +0200
                                Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) Michael Howard <mike@dewberryfields.co.uk> - 2021-08-14 21:40 +0200
                                  Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2021-08-14 21:40 +0200
                              Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-08-14 22:00 +0200
                                Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) Michael Howard <mike@dewberryfields.co.uk> - 2021-08-14 22:00 +0200
                                Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-14 23:30 +0200
                Re: Meta: behavior on list deloptes <emanoil.kotsev@deloptes.org> - 2021-08-13 22:40 +0200
                Re: Meta: behavior on list "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-08-14 13:00 +0200
                  Re: Meta: behavior on list <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-14 14:10 +0200
            Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-08-13 11:20 +0200
              Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-13 12:20 +0200
      Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-14 14:20 +0200
    Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-11 00:40 +0200
      Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-11 20:30 +0200
    Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2021-08-13 13:20 +0200
      Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-13 15:20 +0200
        Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2021-08-13 15:30 +0200
          Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-13 15:50 +0200
            Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2021-08-13 16:00 +0200
              Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-08-13 18:10 +0200
                Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-13 19:40 +0200
    HP plat fair with drivers? Keith Bainbridge <ke1thrboz@gmx.com> - 2021-08-14 11:20 +0200
      Re: HP plat fair with drivers? Kushal Kumaran <kushal@locationd.net> - 2021-08-14 18:20 +0200

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#238620 — Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

Fromsongbird <songbird@anthive.com>
Date2021-08-14 01:20 +0200
SubjectRe: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)
Message-ID<CLOCZ-3Nl-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238612
John Hasler wrote:
...
> No.  I was there when it came into use.  It definitely represents the
> sound of a small object dropping into a large tank with liquid at the
> bottom.  A septic tank, for example.  It was common to respond to a
> particularly asinine article with the one-word followup "plonk".

  having been reading usenet since before the great renaming
it was a term that i haven't used often.

  i found out years ago that i just don't have the energy any
more to get that mad about something on-line.  the n key is
many fewer keystrokes than *plonk*.  :)


  songbird

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#238621 — Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

FromJohn Hasler <john@sugarbit.com>
Date2021-08-14 01:50 +0200
SubjectRe: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)
Message-ID<CLP61-3Wo-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238620
songbird writes:
> i found out years ago that i just don't have the energy any more to
> get that mad about something on-line.  the n key is many fewer
> keystrokes than *plonk*.  :)

When I find that I'm hitting n every time I see a certain user I
killfile them.  Saves keystrokes, reduces clutter.  It's about
boredom, not anger.

Of course, as a Gnus user I can killfile (score down, actually) subjects
and threads as well.
-- 
John Hasler 
john@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#238622 — Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

FromPolyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com>
Date2021-08-14 02:30 +0200
SubjectRe: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)
Message-ID<CLPIJ-4nP-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238620

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On 2021-08-13 6:55 p.m., songbird wrote:
> John Hasler wrote:
> ...
>> No.  I was there when it came into use.  It definitely represents the
>> sound of a small object dropping into a large tank with liquid at the
>> bottom.  A septic tank, for example.  It was common to respond to a
>> particularly asinine article with the one-word followup "plonk".
> 
>   having been reading usenet since before the great renaming
> it was a term that i haven't used often.
great renaming ?
Usenet is not Usenet anymore ?
> 
>   i found out years ago that i just don't have the energy any
> more to get that mad about something on-line.  the n key is
> many fewer keystrokes than *plonk*.  :)
> 
> 
>   songbird
> 

-- 
Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside
-Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development

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#238623 — Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

FromDavid Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Date2021-08-14 07:10 +0200
SubjectRe: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)
Message-ID<CLU5H-7ic-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238622
On Fri 13 Aug 2021 at 20:21:27 (-0400), Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> On 2021-08-13 6:55 p.m., songbird wrote:
> > John Hasler wrote:
> > ...
> >> No.  I was there when it came into use.  It definitely represents the
> >> sound of a small object dropping into a large tank with liquid at the
> >> bottom.  A septic tank, for example.  It was common to respond to a
> >> particularly asinine article with the one-word followup "plonk".
> > 
> >   having been reading usenet since before the great renaming
> > it was a term that i haven't used often.
> great renaming ?
> Usenet is not Usenet anymore ?

Please, STFW.

Cheers,
David.

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#238624 — Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

From<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date2021-08-14 08:30 +0200
SubjectRe: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)
Message-ID<CLVl8-8aK-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238610

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On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 04:12:10PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> tomas@tuxteam.de [2021-08-13 19:11:43] wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 12:49:34PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> > [...]
> >> Plonk ?

[...]

> > [1] http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/P/plonk.html 
> 
> How odd.  I always assumed that it was the comic-strip style
> representation of the sound of hanging up the phone abruptly.

But... Usenet was /before/ 'phone, wasn't it?

;-P

Cheers
 - t

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#238635 — Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

FromJohn Hasler <john@sugarbit.com>
Date2021-08-14 14:40 +0200
SubjectRe: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)
Message-ID<CM17c-3Fo-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238624
tomas writes:
> But... Usenet was /before/ 'phone, wasn't it?

Yup.  Back in the 1860s we did UUCP over manual telegraph.  Earlier yet
we used heliograph.  Signal fires on hilltops were slow, but worked.
And, of course, pigeons.
-- 
John Hasler 
john@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#238636 — Re: [OFFTOPIC] 1149 (was: lonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list))

From<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date2021-08-14 14:50 +0200
SubjectRe: [OFFTOPIC] 1149 (was: lonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list))
Message-ID<CM1gR-3Jh-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 07:37:00AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> tomas writes:
> > But... Usenet was /before/ 'phone, wasn't it?
> 
> Yup.  Back in the 1860s we did UUCP over manual telegraph.  Earlier yet
> we used heliograph.  Signal fires on hilltops were slow, but worked.
> And, of course, pigeons.

Yes! Pigeons!  UUCP over Avian Carrier. Later they shamelessly copied
that in rfc1149 [1].

(now seriously: my first Usenet feed actually was over UUCP over...
a 14.4k modem)

Cheers

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carrier

 - t

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#238638 — Re: [OFFTOPIC] 1149 (was: lonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list))

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2021-08-14 15:20 +0200
SubjectRe: [OFFTOPIC] 1149 (was: lonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list))
Message-ID<CM1JT-48K-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238636
On Saturday 14 August 2021 08:44:44 tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 07:37:00AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> > tomas writes:
> > > But... Usenet was /before/ 'phone, wasn't it?
> >
> > Yup.  Back in the 1860s we did UUCP over manual telegraph.  Earlier
> > yet we used heliograph.  Signal fires on hilltops were slow, but
> > worked. And, of course, pigeons.
>
> Yes! Pigeons!  UUCP over Avian Carrier. Later they shamelessly copied
> that in rfc1149 [1].
>
> (now seriously: my first Usenet feed actually was over UUCP over...
> a 14.4k modem)
>
> Cheers
>
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carrier
>
>  - t
Chuckle, you were a bit late to that party Tomas. When I first accessed 
Delphi, I used a 300 baud modem on a trs-80 color computer running os9. 
That was before Judge Green, and the 16 air miles to the access point 
was still long distance. So my coco ran my LD bill up over $100 some 
months. Nobody had 56k modems yet. I was in hog heaven when I got my 
first 1200 baud modem.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
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#238639 — Re: [OFFTOPIC] CoCo and oldies (was : 1149 (was: lonk / was: Meta: behavior on list))

FromPolyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com>
Date2021-08-14 15:30 +0200
SubjectRe: [OFFTOPIC] CoCo and oldies (was : 1149 (was: lonk / was: Meta: behavior on list))
Message-ID<CM1Tz-4bK-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On 2021-08-14 9:16 a.m., Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 14 August 2021 08:44:44 tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 07:37:00AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
>>> tomas writes:
>>>> But... Usenet was /before/ 'phone, wasn't it?
>>>
>>> Yup.  Back in the 1860s we did UUCP over manual telegraph.  Earlier
>>> yet we used heliograph.  Signal fires on hilltops were slow, but
>>> worked. And, of course, pigeons.
>>
>> Yes! Pigeons!  UUCP over Avian Carrier. Later they shamelessly copied
>> that in rfc1149 [1].
>>
>> (now seriously: my first Usenet feed actually was over UUCP over...
>> a 14.4k modem)
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carrier
>>
>>  - t
> Chuckle, you were a bit late to that party Tomas. When I first accessed 
> Delphi, I used a 300 baud modem on a trs-80 color computer running os9. 
> That was before Judge Green, and the 16 air miles to the access point 
> was still long distance. So my coco ran my LD bill up over $100 some 
> months. Nobody had 56k modems yet. I was in hog heaven when I got my 
> first 1200 baud modem.
> 
You put me back in the "good old times", long time haven't heard of Delphi.

Did have a phone coupler (the thing that you put the handset over and
would dial manually) for my Commodore SuperPet 900, plus the 1200 bauds
modem of my Commodore 64 (later).

I remember to have had a CoCo but it was running in plain Basic, don't
remember which one I had.

> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> 

-- 
Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside
-Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development

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#238637 — Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

FromErwan David <erwan@rail.eu.org>
Date2021-08-14 15:00 +0200
SubjectRe: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)
Message-ID<CM1qx-3N1-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238635
Le 14/08/2021 à 14:37, John Hasler a écrit :
> tomas writes:
>> But... Usenet was /before/ 'phone, wasn't it?
> Yup.  Back in the 1860s we did UUCP over manual telegraph.  Earlier yet
> we used heliograph.  Signal fires on hilltops were slow, but worked.
> And, of course, pigeons.

I have a secondary MX through UUCP, but over IPv6...

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#238640 — Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

FromCharles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com>
Date2021-08-14 17:10 +0200
SubjectRe: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)
Message-ID<CM3sl-5uD-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238635
On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 07:37:00 -0500
John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> wrote:

> tomas writes:
> > But... Usenet was /before/ 'phone, wasn't it?  
> 
> Yup.  Back in the 1860s we did UUCP over manual telegraph.  Earlier
> yet we used heliograph.  Signal fires on hilltops were slow, but
> worked. And, of course, pigeons.

Don't forget IP over drums, and of course IP over lanterns in church
steeples ("Two if by sea", etc.)

-- 
Does anybody read signatures any more?

https://charlescurley.com
https://charlescurley.com/blog/

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#238649 — Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

FromMichael Howard <mike@dewberryfields.co.uk>
Date2021-08-14 21:10 +0200
SubjectRe: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)
Message-ID<CM7cC-7Ra-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238640
On 14/08/2021 16:08, Charles Curley wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 07:37:00 -0500
> John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> wrote:
>
>> tomas writes:
>>> But... Usenet was /before/ 'phone, wasn't it?
>> Yup.  Back in the 1860s we did UUCP over manual telegraph.  Earlier
>> yet we used heliograph.  Signal fires on hilltops were slow, but
>> worked. And, of course, pigeons.
> Don't forget IP over drums, and of course IP over lanterns in church
> steeples ("Two if by sea", etc.)
>

Please take this shit off list!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- 
Michael Howard.

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#238650 — Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

FromPolyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com>
Date2021-08-14 21:30 +0200
SubjectRe: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)
Message-ID<CM7vX-7Xh-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238649

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Hi,

On 2021-08-14 2:53 p.m., Michael Howard wrote:
> On 14/08/2021 16:08, Charles Curley wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 07:37:00 -0500
>> John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> wrote:
>>
>>> tomas writes:
>>>> But... Usenet was /before/ 'phone, wasn't it?
>>> Yup.  Back in the 1860s we did UUCP over manual telegraph.  Earlier
>>> yet we used heliograph.  Signal fires on hilltops were slow, but
>>> worked. And, of course, pigeons.
>> Don't forget IP over drums, and of course IP over lanterns in church
>> steeples ("Two if by sea", etc.)
>>
> 
> Please take this shit off list!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 

rarely seen someone who express himself in a so good manner !

teaching by example, does this ever come to your mind ?
-- 
Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside
-Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development

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#238651 — Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

FromMichael Howard <mike@dewberryfields.co.uk>
Date2021-08-14 21:40 +0200
SubjectRe: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)
Message-ID<CM7FD-80j-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238650

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On 14/08/2021 20:25, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 2021-08-14 2:53 p.m., Michael Howard wrote:
>> On 14/08/2021 16:08, Charles Curley wrote:
>>> On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 07:37:00 -0500
>>> John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> tomas writes:
>>>>> But... Usenet was /before/ 'phone, wasn't it?
>>>> Yup.  Back in the 1860s we did UUCP over manual telegraph.  Earlier
>>>> yet we used heliograph.  Signal fires on hilltops were slow, but
>>>> worked. And, of course, pigeons.
>>> Don't forget IP over drums, and of course IP over lanterns in church
>>> steeples ("Two if by sea", etc.)
>>>
>> Please take this shit off list!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
> rarely seen someone who express himself in a so good manner !
>
> teaching by example, does this ever come to your mind ?
Give the normal amongst us a break. This stuff is NOT debian, it is 
social ineptitude and it has to stop.

Form yourselves a chat group somewhere, just NOT here. Please?

-- 
Michael Howard.

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#238653 — Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

FromMarco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net>
Date2021-08-14 21:40 +0200
SubjectRe: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)
Message-ID<CM7FE-80j-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238651
On 14.08.21 21:35, Michael Howard wrote:

> Give the normal amongst us a break. This stuff is NOT debian, it is 
> social ineptitude and it has to stop.
> 
> Form yourselves a chat group somewhere, just NOT here. Please?
> 
> -- 
> Michael Howard.
> 

+1

---
Marco

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#238656 — Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

FromCurt <curty@free.fr>
Date2021-08-14 22:00 +0200
SubjectRe: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)
Message-ID<CM7YZ-87f-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238649
On 2021-08-14, Michael Howard <mike@dewberryfields.co.uk> wrote:
> On 14/08/2021 16:08, Charles Curley wrote:

>> Don't forget IP over drums, and of course IP over lanterns in church
>> steeples ("Two if by sea", etc.)
>>
>
> Please take this shit off list!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>

IP overwrought, is that it? 

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#238657 — Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

FromMichael Howard <mike@dewberryfields.co.uk>
Date2021-08-14 22:00 +0200
SubjectRe: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)
Message-ID<CM7YZ-87f-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238656

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On 14/08/2021 20:51, Curt wrote:
> On 2021-08-14, Michael Howard <mike@dewberryfields.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 14/08/2021 16:08, Charles Curley wrote:
>>> Don't forget IP over drums, and of course IP over lanterns in church
>>> steeples ("Two if by sea", etc.)
>>>
>> Please take this shit off list!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
> IP overwrought, is that it?
>
>
>
No

-- 
Michael Howard.

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#238665 — Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

FromPolyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com>
Date2021-08-14 23:30 +0200
SubjectRe: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)
Message-ID<CM9o5-FZ-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238656

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On 2021-08-14 3:51 p.m., Curt wrote:
> On 2021-08-14, Michael Howard <mike@dewberryfields.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 14/08/2021 16:08, Charles Curley wrote:
> 
>>> Don't forget IP over drums, and of course IP over lanterns in church
>>> steeples ("Two if by sea", etc.)
>>>
>>
>> Please take this shit off list!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
> 
> IP overwrought, is that it? 
> 
> 
> 
He want to take the IP over the list ?
IPoL ?

-- 
Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside
-Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development

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#238611 — Re: Meta: behavior on list

Fromdeloptes <emanoil.kotsev@deloptes.org>
Date2021-08-13 22:40 +0200
SubjectRe: Meta: behavior on list
Message-ID<CLM89-2fn-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238602
Dan Ritter wrote:

> There is no way in which the gender of any participant in
> debian-users is relevant. Nor their sexuality, religion, skin
> color, national origin, or even the fact that they use other
> operating systems from time to time.

It is not about the gender but the attitude, capice?

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#238628 — Re: Meta: behavior on list

From"Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com>
Date2021-08-14 13:00 +0200
SubjectRe: Meta: behavior on list
Message-ID<CLZyp-2xO-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238602
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 12:41:40PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
> deloptes wrote: 
> > @Brian communication with Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside is meaningless and
> > a waste of time.
> 
> You should have stopped here.
> 
> 
> > I even had to google her, because I had the feeling I talk to a troll. I
> > think she is extreme left ... lost in gendering and so on somewhere in
> > French Canada, but I do not have any evidence for that. However the
> > information I found 
> 
> At this point, you crossed the line in my head.
> 
> There is no way in which the gender of any participant in
> debian-users is relevant. Nor their sexuality, religion, skin
> color, national origin, or even the fact that they use other
> operating systems from time to time.

See also the FAQ I post each month :)

> 
> There are occasionally issues that relate to where someone is
> operating a computer -- WiFi bands, hardware availability, censorship
> issues come to mind -- but none of those are relevant in the
> current discussion, so whatever your problem with Canadians,
> Québécois(e) or Francophones is, I suggest that you forget about
> it until it becomes relevant.
> 
> Finally, if someone doesn't bring up their politics on-list,
> there's no call for you to bring up their politics on-list. You
> can silently avoid helping as much as you please.
> 
> And in conclusion, plonk!
> 
> -dsr-
> 

Be considerate to each other. Be polite - be helpful.

There's no need to dig into people's backgrounds to try and work out why
they annoy you - get over it and treat them well. When you annoy them,
with luck, they'll do the same.

Debian is a HUGE community - every political viewpoint, every religious 
viewpoint, shades of sexual orientation and identity, shades of gender
- often the only thing that unites us is that we use/are interested in/
keep up with Debian.

That doesn't mean to say that personality doesn't come up - just that it's
a secondary consideration. Stick around for a while and you discover what
are hot topics - what you can say to push someone's crumple buttons.

[Everyone has a button/hot topic that sets them going: your attitude/your
tone or the words you use might remind them of an unfortunate situation/
bad experiences or just life experiences. Hit on it accidentally and you
can make them want to fight you/burst into tears or whatever - unexpected
quite often.] 

Don't set out to punch people's crumple buttons: hit them 
deliberately and some people double over just as much as if 
you'd hit them in the stomach

Trying to make Debian a better place starts one post at a time. That's one
of the reasons why I volunteer for the Debian community team.

[And yes, this can readily be seen as  pious politcal correctness liberal 
bullshit and irrelevant  and you can all ignore it - until the time when it 
suddenly becomes important to you on an issue you care about - or you 
appreciate someone more for trying to help you when you're down.]

And now back to tech stuff - and a release to get out :)

All best,

Andy C

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