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All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

Started byNicolas George <george@nsup.org>
First post2021-08-10 16:20 +0200
Last post2021-08-14 18:20 +0200
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  All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2021-08-10 16:20 +0200
    Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Peter Ehlert <pb21a@sdi-baja.com> - 2021-08-10 16:40 +0200
    Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2021-08-10 16:50 +0200
      Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-10 18:20 +0200
        Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2021-08-10 19:10 +0200
          Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-10 19:50 +0200
            Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2021-08-10 20:20 +0200
              Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Erwan David <erwan@rail.eu.org> - 2021-08-10 21:00 +0200
                Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-10 21:50 +0200
                  Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Erwan David <erwan@rail.eu.org> - 2021-08-11 08:10 +0200
                    Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-11 12:20 +0200
                      Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-08-11 12:50 +0200
                        Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-11 14:10 +0200
              Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-10 21:00 +0200
                Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2021-08-11 09:30 +0200
                  Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-11 12:40 +0200
                    Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-08-11 14:10 +0200
                      Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-08-11 14:20 +0200
                      Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2021-08-11 14:30 +0200
                        Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-11 15:00 +0200
                      Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-11 14:40 +0200
                    Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Erwan David <erwan@rail.eu.org> - 2021-08-11 14:20 +0200
                      Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-11 16:10 +0200
                        Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Erwan David <erwan@rail.eu.org> - 2021-08-11 16:30 +0200
                          Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-11 17:00 +0200
                    Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2021-08-11 14:20 +0200
                      Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-11 14:50 +0200
    Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-10 17:10 +0200
      Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2021-08-10 17:20 +0200
      Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Erwan David <erwan@rail.eu.org> - 2021-08-10 20:00 +0200
        Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-10 21:00 +0200
        Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-11 10:30 +0200
          Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-11 13:40 +0200
    Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-11 00:30 +0200
      Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2021-08-11 09:20 +0200
        Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-11 09:40 +0200
          Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2021-08-11 09:50 +0200
            Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) Cindy Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2021-08-11 09:50 +0200
              Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-11 10:10 +0200
                Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2021-08-11 12:30 +0200
                  Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-08-11 14:40 +0200
                    Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2021-08-12 17:50 +0200
                      Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-08-12 18:50 +0200
                        Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2021-08-12 19:20 +0200
                          Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-12 19:50 +0200
                          Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-12 21:50 +0200
                Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-11 13:30 +0200
                  Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-08-11 14:30 +0200
                    Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-11 15:40 +0200
                Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-08-11 13:30 +0200
                  Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) Tony van der Hoff <lists@vanderhoff.org> - 2021-08-11 14:30 +0200
                    Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com> - 2021-08-11 15:30 +0200
                      Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-11 15:50 +0200
                  Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012) Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-08-11 15:40 +0200
                  Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet  8012) Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2021-08-11 17:50 +0200
                    Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet  8012) Bob Bernstein <poobah@ruptured-duck.com> - 2021-08-11 21:00 +0200
            End of the line [ was Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One  printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)] Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-11 10:00 +0200
              Re: End of the line [ was Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One  printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)] Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2021-08-11 10:10 +0200
                Re: End of the line [ was Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One  printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)] Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-11 10:20 +0200
        Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-11 20:10 +0200
      Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-12 21:30 +0200
        Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-12 21:40 +0200
          Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-13 00:30 +0200
            Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-13 01:00 +0200
              Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-13 12:20 +0200
                Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-13 12:40 +0200
                  Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-13 13:10 +0200
            Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-13 01:10 +0200
              Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-14 20:50 +0200
                Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-14 21:40 +0200
                  Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-14 23:50 +0200
            Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 deloptes <emanoil.kotsev@deloptes.org> - 2021-08-13 07:10 +0200
              Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-08-13 07:30 +0200
              Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-13 08:20 +0200
                OFFTOPIC Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 deloptes <emanoil.kotsev@deloptes.org> - 2021-08-13 08:50 +0200
                  Re: OFFTOPIC Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-13 09:00 +0200
                    Re: OFFTOPIC Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 deloptes <emanoil.kotsev@deloptes.org> - 2021-08-13 09:00 +0200
                  Re: OFFTOPIC Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 rhkramer@gmail.com - 2021-08-13 13:50 +0200
                    Re: OFFTOPIC Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 deloptes <emanoil.kotsev@deloptes.org> - 2021-08-13 13:50 +0200
                      Re: OFFTOPIC Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 ellanios82 <ellanios82@gmail.com> - 2021-08-13 14:10 +0200
                    Re: OFFTOPIC Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-13 14:00 +0200
              Re: Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-08-13 09:10 +0200
                Re: Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-13 10:00 +0200
              Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-13 18:20 +0200
              Meta: behavior on list Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-08-13 18:50 +0200
                Re: Meta: behavior on list Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-08-13 19:00 +0200
                  Re: Meta: behavior on list John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2021-08-13 19:40 +0200
                  Re: Meta: behavior on list Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-13 21:20 +0200
                Re: Meta: behavior on list The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-08-13 19:00 +0200
                Re: Meta: behavior on list Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-13 19:00 +0200
                  Re: Meta: behavior on list <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-13 19:20 +0200
                    [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-08-13 22:20 +0200
                      Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2021-08-13 23:10 +0200
                        Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-13 23:20 +0200
                          Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-08-13 23:40 +0200
                            Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-13 23:40 +0200
                              Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-08-14 00:00 +0200
                          Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) ellanios82 <ellanios82@gmail.com> - 2021-08-14 00:00 +0200
                        Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-08-13 23:40 +0200
                          Re: [OFFTOPIC] Punked was [Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)] Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-13 23:40 +0200
                        Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-08-14 01:20 +0200
                          Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2021-08-14 01:50 +0200
                          Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-14 02:30 +0200
                            Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-08-14 07:10 +0200
                      Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-14 08:30 +0200
                        Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2021-08-14 14:40 +0200
                          Re: [OFFTOPIC] 1149 (was: lonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-14 14:50 +0200
                            Re: [OFFTOPIC] 1149 (was: lonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)) Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-08-14 15:20 +0200
                              Re: [OFFTOPIC] CoCo and oldies (was : 1149 (was: lonk / was: Meta:  behavior on list)) Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-14 15:30 +0200
                          Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) Erwan David <erwan@rail.eu.org> - 2021-08-14 15:00 +0200
                          Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2021-08-14 17:10 +0200
                            Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) Michael Howard <mike@dewberryfields.co.uk> - 2021-08-14 21:10 +0200
                              Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-14 21:30 +0200
                                Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) Michael Howard <mike@dewberryfields.co.uk> - 2021-08-14 21:40 +0200
                                  Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2021-08-14 21:40 +0200
                              Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-08-14 22:00 +0200
                                Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) Michael Howard <mike@dewberryfields.co.uk> - 2021-08-14 22:00 +0200
                                Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-14 23:30 +0200
                Re: Meta: behavior on list deloptes <emanoil.kotsev@deloptes.org> - 2021-08-13 22:40 +0200
                Re: Meta: behavior on list "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-08-14 13:00 +0200
                  Re: Meta: behavior on list <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-14 14:10 +0200
            Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-08-13 11:20 +0200
              Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-13 12:20 +0200
      Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-14 14:20 +0200
    Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-11 00:40 +0200
      Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-11 20:30 +0200
    Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2021-08-13 13:20 +0200
      Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-13 15:20 +0200
        Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2021-08-13 15:30 +0200
          Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-13 15:50 +0200
            Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2021-08-13 16:00 +0200
              Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-08-13 18:10 +0200
                Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-13 19:40 +0200
    HP plat fair with drivers? Keith Bainbridge <ke1thrboz@gmx.com> - 2021-08-14 11:20 +0200
      Re: HP plat fair with drivers? Kushal Kumaran <kushal@locationd.net> - 2021-08-14 18:20 +0200

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#238585 — Re: OFFTOPIC Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

From<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date2021-08-13 14:00 +0200
SubjectRe: OFFTOPIC Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012
Message-ID<CLE0V-5Gy-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238583

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On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 07:43:35AM -0400, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:

[...]

> I don't think tomas felt he was under personal attack, but that he perceived a 
> personal attack on Polyna.

Good catch, thanks :-)

Cheers
 - t

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#238574

From"Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net>
Date2021-08-13 09:10 +0200
Message-ID<CLzui-2Xq-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238567
Hi,

deloptes wrote:
> >  I think she is extreme left ...

Would be no surprise with our little commie operating system.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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#238575

From<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date2021-08-13 10:00 +0200
Message-ID<CLAgG-3d1-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238574

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On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 09:03:11AM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> deloptes wrote:
> > >  I think she is extreme left ...
> 
> Would be no surprise with our little commie operating system.

This list wouldn't be the same without your humour.

(and of course without your deep knowledge you share so
willingly)

> Have a nice day :)

I always have, after a post from you :)

I wish you the same.

Cheers
 - t

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#238600

FromPolyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com>
Date2021-08-13 18:20 +0200
Message-ID<CLI4x-8p8-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238567

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On 2021-08-13 1:08 a.m., deloptes wrote:
> Brian wrote:
> 
>> Please give a link at the Mopria website substantiating your clain that
>> a Mopria certified device should be ca[able of accepting PDF as a PDL
>> in addition to PWG raster and PCLm.
>>
>>> And all of the condition make a printer pretty much driver less.
>>>
>>> There's no link with you talking about AirPrint.
>>
>> That avoids any meaningful dialog (and is incorrect).
> 
> @Brian communication with Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside is meaningless and
> a waste of time.
> I even had to google her, because I had the feeling I talk to a troll. I
> think she is extreme left ... lost in gendering and so on somewhere in
> French Canada, but I do not have any evidence for that. However the
> information I found and her attitude here was enough for me so that I avoid
> replying to her posts. I mean she takes things personal and starts a
> discussion that never ends and brings nothing at the end - pure waste of
> time.
> However I must admit she stopped top posting and it could be she educates
> herself.
> 

@brian
This is the kind of stupidity that don't give me any will to make effort
to pull out reference that I may have.

Quite awkward saying "she takes thing personal" when the message
contains my name.

By the way, don't take this message personal.

-- 
Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside
-Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development

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#238602 — Meta: behavior on list

FromDan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org>
Date2021-08-13 18:50 +0200
SubjectMeta: behavior on list
Message-ID<CLIxz-6v-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238567
deloptes wrote: 
> @Brian communication with Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside is meaningless and
> a waste of time.

You should have stopped here.


> I even had to google her, because I had the feeling I talk to a troll. I
> think she is extreme left ... lost in gendering and so on somewhere in
> French Canada, but I do not have any evidence for that. However the
> information I found 

At this point, you crossed the line in my head.

There is no way in which the gender of any participant in
debian-users is relevant. Nor their sexuality, religion, skin
color, national origin, or even the fact that they use other
operating systems from time to time.

There are occasionally issues that relate to where someone is
operating a computer -- WiFi bands, hardware availability, censorship
issues come to mind -- but none of those are relevant in the
current discussion, so whatever your problem with Canadians,
Québécois(e) or Francophones is, I suggest that you forget about
it until it becomes relevant.

Finally, if someone doesn't bring up their politics on-list,
there's no call for you to bring up their politics on-list. You
can silently avoid helping as much as you please.

And in conclusion, plonk!

-dsr-

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#238603 — Re: Meta: behavior on list

FromGreg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org>
Date2021-08-13 19:00 +0200
SubjectRe: Meta: behavior on list
Message-ID<CLIHg-9R-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238602
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 12:49:34PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> Plonk ?

In this context, it's the sound that a name makes when it lands in a
killfile, ignore list, or whatever you call it for a given communications
medium.

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#238608 — Re: Meta: behavior on list

FromJohn Hasler <john@sugarbit.com>
Date2021-08-13 19:40 +0200
SubjectRe: Meta: behavior on list
Message-ID<CLJjX-Bp-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238603
>From deep in prehistory, way back when bangpaths ruled and the stain
that is Facebook had yet to spill upon the land:
(I'm not the author)

    Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
    the slings and arrows of outrageous bullshit,
    or to take words against a sea of whinings,
    and by opposing, encourage them?  To killfile, to post;
    No more; and by that post to say we end
    The lameness and the thousand natural followups
    That idiocy is heir to, 'tis a consummation
    Devoutly to be wish'd.  To killfile, to post;
    to post: perchance to flame: ay, there's the rub;
    For after that post what flames may come
    When we have killfiled this mortal foil,
    Must give us pause: there's the respect
    That makes calamity of so long thread;
    For who would bear the quips and scorns of posters,
    The harasser's wrong, the net.cops' contumely,
    The pangs of afterthoughts, the propogation delay,
    The incoherent sentence and the burns
    That impatient merit of the wordy take,
    When he himself might his quietus make
    With a bare screen?  who would postings read,
    To grunt and snort under a weary thread,
    But that the dread of postings after killfiling,
    The undiscover'd comment'ry from whose bourn
    No quotings return, puzzles the will
    And makes us rather those kills we have
    Than fly to others that we know not of?
    Thus curiousity does make readers of us all;
    And thus the monitor's hue and resolution
    Is sicklied o'er with the pale font of thought,
    And enterprises of great pith and moment
    With this regard their discussions turn awry,
    And lose the game of interaction.  -- Soft you now!
    The fair AltaVista!  Nymph, on thy drives
    Be all my posts remember'd.



-- 
John Hasler 
john@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#238609 — Re: Meta: behavior on list

FromPolyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com>
Date2021-08-13 21:20 +0200
SubjectRe: Meta: behavior on list
Message-ID<CLKSJ-1BA-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238603

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On 2021-08-13 12:53 p.m., Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 12:49:34PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
>> Plonk ?
> 
> In this context, it's the sound that a name makes when it lands in a
> killfile, ignore list, or whatever you call it for a given communications
> medium.
> 


Thank you all, reminding me that there's much more good than evil on
this platform.

-- 
Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside
-Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development

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#238604 — Re: Meta: behavior on list

FromThe Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm>
Date2021-08-13 19:00 +0200
SubjectRe: Meta: behavior on list
Message-ID<CLIHh-9R-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238602

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On 2021-08-13 at 12:49, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:

> On 2021-08-13 12:41 p.m., Dan Ritter wrote:

>> And in conclusion, plonk!
> 
> Plonk ?

The sound-effect "plonk" is the traditional onomatopoeia for the sound
of a person (or E-mail address, or whatever) hitting the bottom of one's
killfile.

(For avoidance of doubt: a "killfile" is simply a list of addresses, et
cetera, for which one wants one's E-mail client or newsreader or similar
to hide, mark read, or otherwise ignore - in the vernacular, to "kill" -
any messages which originate from that address. It doesn't, by itself,
indicate any wish of harm towards the referenced person. The act of
killfiling someone on a mailing list or in a newsgroup is analogous to
blocking someone on Twitter or similar, in that any further postings
which that person may make you will no longer see.)

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.         -- George Bernard Shaw

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#238605 — Re: Meta: behavior on list

FromPolyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com>
Date2021-08-13 19:00 +0200
SubjectRe: Meta: behavior on list
Message-ID<CLIHg-9R-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238602

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On 2021-08-13 12:41 p.m., Dan Ritter wrote:
> deloptes wrote: 
>> @Brian communication with Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside is meaningless and
>> a waste of time.
> 
> You should have stopped here.
> 
> 
>> I even had to google her, because I had the feeling I talk to a troll. I
>> think she is extreme left ... lost in gendering and so on somewhere in
>> French Canada, but I do not have any evidence for that. However the
>> information I found 
> 
> At this point, you crossed the line in my head.
> 
> There is no way in which the gender of any participant in
> debian-users is relevant. Nor their sexuality, religion, skin
> color, national origin, or even the fact that they use other
> operating systems from time to time.
> 
> There are occasionally issues that relate to where someone is
> operating a computer -- WiFi bands, hardware availability, censorship
> issues come to mind -- but none of those are relevant in the
> current discussion, so whatever your problem with Canadians,
> Québécois(e) or Francophones is, I suggest that you forget about
> it until it becomes relevant.
> 
> Finally, if someone doesn't bring up their politics on-list,
> there's no call for you to bring up their politics on-list. You
> can silently avoid helping as much as you please.
Thank you Dan.
> 
> And in conclusion, plonk!
> 
Plonk ?
> -dsr-
> 

-- 
Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside
-Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development

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#238606 — Re: Meta: behavior on list

From<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date2021-08-13 19:20 +0200
SubjectRe: Meta: behavior on list
Message-ID<CLJ0B-vu-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 12:49:34PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:

[...]
> Plonk ?

Greg and The Wanderer already provided a definition. Just adding
one standard reference, the Jargon File [1] in such things. Old
Usenet lore.

Cheers

[1] http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/P/plonk.html 

 - t

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#238610 — [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

FromStefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Date2021-08-13 22:20 +0200
Subject[OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)
Message-ID<CLLON-29f-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238606
tomas@tuxteam.de [2021-08-13 19:11:43] wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 12:49:34PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> [...]
>> Plonk ?
> Greg and The Wanderer already provided a definition. Just adding
> one standard reference, the Jargon File [1] in such things. Old
> Usenet lore.
> Cheers
>
> [1] http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/P/plonk.html 

How odd.  I always assumed that it was the comic-strip style
representation of the sound of hanging up the phone abruptly.


        Stefan

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#238612 — Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

FromJohn Hasler <john@sugarbit.com>
Date2021-08-13 23:10 +0200
SubjectRe: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)
Message-ID<CLMBb-2Ee-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238610
Stefan writes:
> How odd.  I always assumed that it was the comic-strip style
> representation of the sound of hanging up the phone abruptly.

No.  I was there when it came into use.  It definitely represents the
sound of a small object dropping into a large tank with liquid at the
bottom.  A septic tank, for example.  It was common to respond to a
particularly asinine article with the one-word followup "plonk".

I've never seen any point in telling the world (or the plonked
individual) about the action, though.
-- 
John Hasler 
john@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#238613 — Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

FromPolyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com>
Date2021-08-13 23:20 +0200
SubjectRe: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)
Message-ID<CLMKS-2I5-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238612

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Hi,

On 2021-08-13 4:59 p.m., John Hasler wrote:
> Stefan writes:
>> How odd.  I always assumed that it was the comic-strip style
>> representation of the sound of hanging up the phone abruptly.
> 
> No.  I was there when it came into use.  It definitely represents the
> sound of a small object dropping into a large tank with liquid at the
> bottom.  A septic tank, for example.  It was common to respond to a
> particularly asinine article with the one-word followup "plonk".
> 
> I've never seen any point in telling the world (or the plonked
> individual) about the action, though.
> 
I have serious doubt against the "plonked" being able to appreciate what
is happening to him. Most of the time, they won't stop and will just
continue to argue against themselves. Something trying to use words from
language they don't even master while trying to do so.

-- 
Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside
-Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development

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#238614 — Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

FromWeaver <weaver@riseup.net>
Date2021-08-13 23:40 +0200
SubjectRe: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)
Message-ID<CLN4d-2Oa-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238613
On 14-08-2021 07:17, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 2021-08-13 4:59 p.m., John Hasler wrote:
>> Stefan writes:
>>> How odd.  I always assumed that it was the comic-strip style
>>> representation of the sound of hanging up the phone abruptly.
>>
>> No.  I was there when it came into use.  It definitely represents the
>> sound of a small object dropping into a large tank with liquid at the
>> bottom.  A septic tank, for example.  It was common to respond to a
>> particularly asinine article with the one-word followup "plonk".
>>
>> I've never seen any point in telling the world (or the plonked
>> individual) about the action, though.
>>
> I have serious doubt against the "plonked" being able to appreciate what
> is happening to him. Most of the time, they won't stop and will just
> continue to argue against themselves. Something trying to use words from
> language they don't even master while trying to do so.

This would be typical: waxing wisely on a term they were obviously not
familiar with, five minutes ago, when they enquired after it.
Cheers!

Harry.

-- 
`Unthinking respect for authority is 
the greatest enemy of truth'.
-- Albert Einstein

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#238616 — Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

FromPolyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com>
Date2021-08-13 23:40 +0200
SubjectRe: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)
Message-ID<CLN4d-2Oa-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238614

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On 2021-08-13 5:31 p.m., Weaver wrote:
> On 14-08-2021 07:17, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 2021-08-13 4:59 p.m., John Hasler wrote:
>>> Stefan writes:
>>>> How odd.  I always assumed that it was the comic-strip style
>>>> representation of the sound of hanging up the phone abruptly.
>>>
>>> No.  I was there when it came into use.  It definitely represents the
>>> sound of a small object dropping into a large tank with liquid at the
>>> bottom.  A septic tank, for example.  It was common to respond to a
>>> particularly asinine article with the one-word followup "plonk".
>>>
>>> I've never seen any point in telling the world (or the plonked
>>> individual) about the action, though.
>>>
>> I have serious doubt against the "plonked" being able to appreciate what
>> is happening to him. Most of the time, they won't stop and will just
>> continue to argue against themselves. Something trying to use words from
>> language they don't even master while trying to do so.
> 
> This would be typical: waxing wisely on a term they were obviously not
> familiar with, five minutes ago, when they enquired after it.
> Cheers!
> 
This would be typical of not understand some simple second degree use of
words. Could it be possible that I have another word that I use for
"plonk" ? A word that can be substituted for ? Pretty much... I call
this being "punked", maybe it's more used orally in Ontario and Eastern
Canada than in writing.

I don't know what you are trying to prove here, except maybe that you
are worth being associated with the word stated earlier ?
> Harry.
> 

-- 
Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside
-Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development

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#238618 — Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

FromWeaver <weaver@riseup.net>
Date2021-08-14 00:00 +0200
SubjectRe: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)
Message-ID<CLNnz-2Ul-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238616
On 14-08-2021 07:37, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> On 2021-08-13 5:31 p.m., Weaver wrote:
>> On 14-08-2021 07:17, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 2021-08-13 4:59 p.m., John Hasler wrote:
>>>> Stefan writes:
>>>>> How odd.  I always assumed that it was the comic-strip style
>>>>> representation of the sound of hanging up the phone abruptly.
>>>>
>>>> No.  I was there when it came into use.  It definitely represents the
>>>> sound of a small object dropping into a large tank with liquid at the
>>>> bottom.  A septic tank, for example.  It was common to respond to a
>>>> particularly asinine article with the one-word followup "plonk".
>>>>
>>>> I've never seen any point in telling the world (or the plonked
>>>> individual) about the action, though.
>>>>
>>> I have serious doubt against the "plonked" being able to appreciate what
>>> is happening to him. Most of the time, they won't stop and will just
>>> continue to argue against themselves. Something trying to use words from
>>> language they don't even master while trying to do so.
>>
>> This would be typical: waxing wisely on a term they were obviously not
>> familiar with, five minutes ago, when they enquired after it.
>> Cheers!
>>
> This would be typical of not understand some simple second degree use of
> words. Could it be possible that I have another word that I use for
> "plonk" ? A word that can be substituted for ? Pretty much... I call
> this being "punked", maybe it's more used orally in Ontario and Eastern
> Canada than in writing.
> 
> I don't know what you are trying to prove here, except maybe that you
> are worth being associated with the word stated earlier ?

I think you'll find mailing lists are international in nature.
Cheers!

Harry.

-- 
`Unthinking respect for authority is 
the greatest enemy of truth'.
-- Albert Einstein

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#238619 — Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

Fromellanios82 <ellanios82@gmail.com>
Date2021-08-14 00:00 +0200
SubjectRe: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)
Message-ID<CLNnA-2Ul-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238613
On 8/14/21 12:17 AM, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> they won't stop and will just continue to argue against themselves


   Quite, quite  : this is happening : now


.

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#238615 — Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

FromDan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org>
Date2021-08-13 23:40 +0200
SubjectRe: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)
Message-ID<CLN4d-2Oa-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238612
John Hasler wrote: 
> Stefan writes:
> > How odd.  I always assumed that it was the comic-strip style
> > representation of the sound of hanging up the phone abruptly.
> 
> No.  I was there when it came into use.  It definitely represents the
> sound of a small object dropping into a large tank with liquid at the
> bottom.  A septic tank, for example.  It was common to respond to a
> particularly asinine article with the one-word followup "plonk".
> 
> I've never seen any point in telling the world (or the plonked
> individual) about the action, though.

Oh, no, it's not for them. If they were worth arguing with, one
wouldn't bother plonking them - just quietly ignore them.

Plonking is a social signal to everybody else. *This person* is in
*my opinion* not worth an argument -- consider whether you want to do
the same.

It's never unanimous. There's a decades-long troll on
rec.arts.sf.written who apparently has a worthwhile thing to say
about once every two years. I find out by seeing it quoted in
other people's messages.

-dsr-

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#238617 — Re: [OFFTOPIC] Punked was [Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)]

FromPolyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com>
Date2021-08-13 23:40 +0200
SubjectRe: [OFFTOPIC] Punked was [Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)]
Message-ID<CLN4d-2Oa-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On 2021-08-13 5:31 p.m., Dan Ritter wrote:
> John Hasler wrote: 
>> Stefan writes:
>>> How odd.  I always assumed that it was the comic-strip style
>>> representation of the sound of hanging up the phone abruptly.
>>
>> No.  I was there when it came into use.  It definitely represents the
>> sound of a small object dropping into a large tank with liquid at the
>> bottom.  A septic tank, for example.  It was common to respond to a
>> particularly asinine article with the one-word followup "plonk".
>>
>> I've never seen any point in telling the world (or the plonked
>> individual) about the action, though.
> 
> Oh, no, it's not for them. If they were worth arguing with, one
> wouldn't bother plonking them - just quietly ignore them.
> 
> Plonking is a social signal to everybody else. *This person* is in
> *my opinion* not worth an argument -- consider whether you want to do
> the same.
> 
I've used the term calling them "Punk" but that's maybe something local
to Eastern Canada.

> It's never unanimous. There's a decades-long troll on
> rec.arts.sf.written who apparently has a worthwhile thing to say
> about once every two years. I find out by seeing it quoted in
> other people's messages.
> 
Decade long troll ? I'm pretty sure this is similar in this mailing list.
> -dsr-
> 

-- 
Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside
-Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development

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