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  How's @ $ € Gunnar Gervin <dofeelok@gmail.com> - 2021-08-05 09:50 +0200
    Re: How's @ $ € Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-05 12:20 +0200
      Re: How's @ $ € Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-06 00:30 +0200
        Re: How's @ $ € Gunnar Gervin <dofeelok@gmail.com> - 2021-08-06 19:30 +0200
    Re: How's @ $ € Eduardo M KALINOWSKI <eduardo@kalinowski.com.br> - 2021-08-05 16:40 +0200

#238181 — How's @ $ €

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Thx all.
Problem solved;
to your orientation.
Most other challenges are
possible to find in Duckduckgo or Google, & in former answers.
I was in lack of sleep cos of heat
Thus a bit manic; flooding, sorry.
& didn't see the importance of culture, rules, definition of issue, &
similar; I'm quite self-centered.
BR,
Gunnar

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Hi,

On 2021-08-05 3:48 a.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote:
> Thx all.
> Problem solved;
> to your orientation.
> Most other challenges are 
> possible to find in Duckduckgo or Google, & in former answers.
> I was in lack of sleep cos of heat
> Thus a bit manic; flooding, sorry.
> & didn't see the importance of culture, rules, definition of issue, &
> similar; I'm quite self-centered.
Now you know what you have to work on.
It's not only something that will be related to this mailing list.
But describing what we want is basic for getting what we'd like to get.
And this apply to all sort of situation in life.

Being self-centered and going out for asking other for help is a bit ironic.

> BR,
> Gunnar

-- 
Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside
-Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development

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Hi,

On 2021-08-05 3:01 p.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote:
> My experience of life is if I criticise someone usually it's in me;
> mirroring myself; projecting.
> Something I need improve on(?).
> I got an advice that might work:
> Go to Devuan with it; Debian simplified? If it works, ok for me.
Devuan is a split from Debian because some user got pissed regarding the
use of SystemD.
> Next new computer will be built with Linux in it, probably Debian. 
> Thus less, or no issues at all.It could make it easier to buy a computer with Linux already installed.
But you'll still need to learn pretty much the same as if you'd get a
computer with Windows and install Linux yourself.
Most computer have a good deal of compatibility those days.
Comparing your experience with a decade and half old MacBook against a
computer that is more recent doesn't work.

I have a HP desktop I got from a refurbished authorized seller, it used
to run Windows 7 and now is running Debian Buster, I installed 32 G of
RAM and still using the stock 2 TB HD. I've added a video card (GT 710)
but that wasn't a need, the integrated GPU from AMD was supported.

I also have a HP EliteBook G1 with 16GB and a 1 TB hard drive, runs with
the integrated GPU on a Intel Core (i5) system. Everything works great,
including the Wifi, the Bluetooth and the card reader.

Also got another laptop from Acer, old brick dating from 2012 with AMD
CPU, Radeon discrete graphic board, and all work well, Bluetooth, WiFi,
network card and card reader.

Only got to take your time to get the things right. Ideally also have
another computer so you can search for answer.

Learning is going thru errors and fixing them.
> And, Polyna, it's best to reinstall every new release. Backups are often
> best left behind; new start.
I think you didn't get right what I said (and other said too).

It is good to make backup of user data.
But it is safe to upgrade from one Debian version to another.
And it is also safe to do update on the packages themselves.

> That was a joke...
> Bye for now, Polyna & you all.
> Ain't most humans self-centered
Most human are self-centered but they have gotten maturity to know that
if you want interaction with others, then there's a need to act
accordingly to what is acceptable.

We all need to eat and we all get hungry. Does it mean this justify that
I pass in front of other waiting in a line ? No it doesn't.

Our needs are balanced against the community. That what's called living
in a society.

> BR,
> Gunnar
> 
> It's no crime to say no
> 
> 
> On Thu, 5 Aug 2021, 13:12 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside,
> <debian@polynamaude.com <mailto:debian@polynamaude.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi,
> 
>     On 2021-08-05 3:48 a.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote:
>     > Thx all.
>     > Problem solved;
>     > to your orientation.
>     > Most other challenges are 
>     > possible to find in Duckduckgo or Google, & in former answers.
>     > I was in lack of sleep cos of heat
>     > Thus a bit manic; flooding, sorry.
>     > & didn't see the importance of culture, rules, definition of issue, &
>     > similar; I'm quite self-centered.
>     Now you know what you have to work on.
>     It's not only something that will be related to this mailing list.
>     But describing what we want is basic for getting what we'd like to get.
>     And this apply to all sort of situation in life.
> 
>     Being self-centered and going out for asking other for help is a bit
>     ironic.
> 
>     > BR,
>     > Gunnar
> 
>     -- 
>     Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside
>     -Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development
> 

-- 
Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside
-Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development

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Agreed to all.
Looked for personal reply because I felt for giving apology for words that
might hurt; really sorry if I was out of line to you.
Actually Mac's are new to me, this oldest I liked better after changed to
Linux Debian. I like Linux better, even Windows, than Mac. I find them
almost incompatible. I have a Macbook Pro that crashed after put (not
Debian) Linux in it. Thus I reset it to Macbook Pro. On repair now, so I'm
stuck with an old Mac. 3 options for me/in this.
1. Devuan works when I learn to install it with flags, boot, & root, the
right places and ways.Will put more Ram, & Virtualbox VM in it if I get
time & brains to learn enough to do it properly.
Self-centeredness paradoxes the project of asking help, that's true
More comical, than ironic, for that I'm grateful. Thx for that one on
living in society, was spot on!
2. Struggle on adjusting Debian settings to work in it.
3. Go back to Linux Mint Ubuntu
Last option, mostly cos L. Mint has a little bit of commerciality in it;
Canonical in the back, & root is gone. One helper there refused tell how I
could reinstall after I'd set too much wrong again, so I wanted to start
fresh. Bought dvd online to enable the option, waited 1 month to get it..
Time I learn how to clean up messes, & avoid making them. But I have a job
too do, (online based mostly) so I must try to cut away my ideas, and try
advices I get here in order to be at least a tiny bit productive. That's
why I try out Devuan. Which seems to require more of Terminal.
Main reason I chose Debian was the size of it. Discussion sites, help
sites, development sites, one can expand any interest in Debian, e.g
amateur radio, photography, writing, publishing, making movies. It's
amazing.
Not much money earned using non-commercial (Debian) Linux.
But the savings are unlimited.
BR,
Gunnar

On Fri, 6 Aug 2021, 01:20 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside, <
debian@polynamaude.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 2021-08-05 3:01 p.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote:
> > My experience of life is if I criticise someone usually it's in me;
> > mirroring myself; projecting.
> > Something I need improve on(?).
> > I got an advice that might work:
> > Go to Devuan with it; Debian simplified? If it works, ok for me.
> Devuan is a split from Debian because some user got pissed regarding the
> use of SystemD.
> > Next new computer will be built with Linux in it, probably Debian.
> > Thus less, or no issues at all.It could make it easier to buy a computer
> with Linux already installed.
> But you'll still need to learn pretty much the same as if you'd get a
> computer with Windows and install Linux yourself.
> Most computer have a good deal of compatibility those days.
> Comparing your experience with a decade and half old MacBook against a
> computer that is more recent doesn't work.
>
> I have a HP desktop I got from a refurbished authorized seller, it used
> to run Windows 7 and now is running Debian Buster, I installed 32 G of
> RAM and still using the stock 2 TB HD. I've added a video card (GT 710)
> but that wasn't a need, the integrated GPU from AMD was supported.
>
> I also have a HP EliteBook G1 with 16GB and a 1 TB hard drive, runs with
> the integrated GPU on a Intel Core (i5) system. Everything works great,
> including the Wifi, the Bluetooth and the card reader.
>
> Also got another laptop from Acer, old brick dating from 2012 with AMD
> CPU, Radeon discrete graphic board, and all work well, Bluetooth, WiFi,
> network card and card reader.
>
> Only got to take your time to get the things right. Ideally also have
> another computer so you can search for answer.
>
> Learning is going thru errors and fixing them.
> > And, Polyna, it's best to reinstall every new release. Backups are often
> > best left behind; new start.
> I think you didn't get right what I said (and other said too).
>
> It is good to make backup of user data.
> But it is safe to upgrade from one Debian version to another.
> And it is also safe to do update on the packages themselves.
>
> > That was a joke...
> > Bye for now, Polyna & you all.
> > Ain't most humans self-centered
> Most human are self-centered but they have gotten maturity to know that
> if you want interaction with others, then there's a need to act
> accordingly to what is acceptable.
>
> We all need to eat and we all get hungry. Does it mean this justify that
> I pass in front of other waiting in a line ? No it doesn't.
>
> Our needs are balanced against the community. That what's called living
> in a society.
>
> > BR,
> > Gunnar
> >
> > It's no crime to say no
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 5 Aug 2021, 13:12 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside,
> > <debian@polynamaude.com <mailto:debian@polynamaude.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Hi,
> >
> >     On 2021-08-05 3:48 a.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote:
> >     > Thx all.
> >     > Problem solved;
> >     > to your orientation.
> >     > Most other challenges are
> >     > possible to find in Duckduckgo or Google, & in former answers.
> >     > I was in lack of sleep cos of heat
> >     > Thus a bit manic; flooding, sorry.
> >     > & didn't see the importance of culture, rules, definition of
> issue, &
> >     > similar; I'm quite self-centered.
> >     Now you know what you have to work on.
> >     It's not only something that will be related to this mailing list.
> >     But describing what we want is basic for getting what we'd like to
> get.
> >     And this apply to all sort of situation in life.
> >
> >     Being self-centered and going out for asking other for help is a bit
> >     ironic.
> >
> >     > BR,
> >     > Gunnar
> >
> >     --
> >     Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside
> >     -Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development
> >
>
> --
> Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside
> -Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development
>
>

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#238215

On 05/08/2021 04:48, Gunnar Gervin wrote:
> Thx all.
> Problem solved;
> to your orientation.
> Most other challenges are
> possible to find in Duckduckgo or Google, & in former answers.
> I was in lack of sleep cos of heat
> Thus a bit manic; flooding, sorry.
> & didn't see the importance of culture, rules, definition of issue, & 
> similar; I'm quite self-centered.

Apart from everthing that has been said about asking meaningful 
questions (and using a proper subject line, which you still didn't use), 
I'd like to point out that there are mailing lists in other languages in 
case you're more confortable writing in another language: 
https://lists.debian.org/users.html .


-- 
The verdict of a jury is the a priori opinion of that juror who smokes
the worst cigars.
		-- H. L. Mencken

Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
eduardo@kalinowski.com.br

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