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| Started by | rao mohsin <kraomohsin2@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2021-08-06 18:10 +0200 |
| Last post | 2021-08-06 20:20 +0200 |
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How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian rao mohsin <kraomohsin2@gmail.com> - 2021-08-06 18:10 +0200
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-06 18:40 +0200
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2021-08-06 21:00 +0200
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian Gunnar Gervin <dofeelok@gmail.com> - 2021-08-06 22:50 +0200
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-08-06 23:10 +0200
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-07 00:50 +0200
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-08-07 01:00 +0200
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-07 01:20 +0200
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-07 13:00 +0200
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-08-07 15:40 +0200
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-07 16:10 +0200
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-08-07 16:30 +0200
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-07 17:10 +0200
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-07 18:00 +0200
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-07 23:30 +0200
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-08 00:10 +0200
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian Brian Thompson <brian@hashvault.io> - 2021-08-08 00:10 +0200
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-08 08:00 +0200
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian Brian Thompson <brian@hashvault.io> - 2021-08-08 09:10 +0200
On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-08 11:40 +0200
Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian] Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2021-08-08 17:30 +0200
Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian] Brian Thompson <brian@hashvault.io> - 2021-08-08 18:00 +0200
Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian] Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-08-08 21:00 +0200
Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian] Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-08 22:10 +0200
Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-08 23:10 +0200
Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian] Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2021-08-08 23:40 +0200
Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian] Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-08-09 02:10 +0200
Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian] Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2021-08-10 00:00 +0200
Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian] Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-08-10 01:10 +0200
Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian] Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2021-08-10 03:00 +0200
Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian] Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-08-10 03:10 +0200
Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian] Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2021-08-10 03:40 +0200
Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian] Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-11 03:20 +0200
Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian] Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2021-08-11 13:50 +0200
Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian] SDA <marathon.durandal@gmail.com> - 2021-08-16 14:30 +0200
Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian] Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2021-08-16 16:10 +0200
Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian] SDA <marathon.durandal@gmail.com> - 2021-08-17 17:00 +0200
Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian]) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2021-08-17 21:00 +0200
Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-08-17 21:30 +0200
Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2021-08-17 21:40 +0200
Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) Terence <terence.john@gmail.com> - 2021-08-17 21:50 +0200
Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-08-18 00:30 +0200
Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2021-08-18 00:50 +0200
[WAY OFF-TOPIC] Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2021-08-18 01:30 +0200
Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian]) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-18 01:10 +0200
Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-08-18 01:30 +0200
Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian]) Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-19 07:30 +0200
Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian]) Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2021-08-18 13:10 +0200
Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian]) Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-08-18 13:30 +0200
Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian]) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2021-08-18 14:30 +0200
Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian]) Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2021-08-19 22:20 +0200
Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian]) deloptes <emanoil.kotsev@deloptes.org> - 2021-08-18 14:30 +0200
Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian]) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-18 19:00 +0200
Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian]) Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-19 07:40 +0200
Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian]) deloptes <emanoil.kotsev@deloptes.org> - 2021-08-19 08:20 +0200
Flamebait [was: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants ...] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-19 09:50 +0200
Re: Flamebait [was: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants ...] Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-19 10:40 +0200
Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian]) Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-19 10:30 +0200
Re: Flamebait [was: Wishing for an off-topic mail list ...] Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-19 10:40 +0200
Flamebait [was: Wishing for an off-topic mail list ...] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-19 10:40 +0200
Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian]) Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2021-08-19 08:30 +0200
Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-08-19 10:00 +0200
Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-19 10:10 +0200
Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-19 10:40 +0200
Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2021-08-19 10:20 +0200
Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian]) Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> - 2021-08-19 15:10 +0200
Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian]) Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-19 17:10 +0200
Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-09 07:30 +0200
Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian] Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2021-08-10 00:20 +0200
Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian] Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2021-08-10 01:10 +0200
Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian] Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-08-10 01:30 +0200
Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian] Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2021-08-10 03:40 +0200
Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian] Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2021-08-09 09:40 +0200
Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-09 11:10 +0200
Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian] Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2021-08-09 17:10 +0200
Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-09 17:50 +0200
Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian] Linux-Fan <Ma_Sys.ma@web.de> - 2021-08-10 03:00 +0200
Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian] Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2021-08-10 04:10 +0200
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-07 17:10 +0200
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-07 17:10 +0200
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-07 17:30 +0200
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian Keith Bainbridge <ke1thrboz@gmx.com> - 2021-08-07 02:50 +0200
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-08-09 15:30 +0200
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-07 00:50 +0200
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian Gunnar Gervin <dofeelok@gmail.com> - 2021-08-06 23:00 +0200
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-07 00:50 +0200
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-07 01:00 +0200
[OFFTPIC] How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian deloptes <emanoil.kotsev@deloptes.org> - 2021-08-07 08:30 +0200
Re: [OFFTPIC] How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian Keith Bainbridge <ke1thrboz@gmx.com> - 2021-08-07 09:50 +0200
Changing subjects, forums and things. Drive Debian <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-07 09:50 +0200
Re: Changing subjects, forums and things. Drive Debian Keith Bainbridge <ke1thrboz@gmx.com> - 2021-08-07 13:40 +0200
Re: Howto change of subjects [ was : Changing subjects, forums and things. Drive Debian] Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-07 15:20 +0200
Re: Howto change of subjects [ was : Changing subjects, forums and things. Drive Debian] Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-08-07 21:50 +0200
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian Keith Bainbridge <ke1thrboz@gmx.com> - 2021-08-07 02:50 +0200
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian 007 <007@caiway.net> - 2021-08-06 20:20 +0200
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| From | rao mohsin <kraomohsin2@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2021-08-06 18:10 +0200 |
| Subject | How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian |
| Message-ID | <CJaA1-1So-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
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Hi there,
I am Rao Mohsin from Pakistan. I am following
https://www.howtogeek.com/196933/how-to … ard-drive/ 1
<https://www.howtogeek.com/196933/how-to-boot-linux-iso-images-directly-from-your-hard-drive/>
this tutorial for booting my system directly from ISO file. this tutorial
is on Ubuntu 14. I am trying on Fedora (13,20,24,29)
I did not understand this line
boot=casper iso-scan/filename=${isofile} quiet
I download Fedora ISOs from fedora website.
https://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/ … ve/x86_64/
<https://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/releases/20/Live/x86_64/>
I found vmlinuz and initrd file and mentioned accordingly. But the issue is
the line.
Boot=casper……
I am writing
root=live:CDLABEL=Fedora-Mate-Live-29-1-2
root=rd.live.image
root=(hd0,msdos1)
root=/dev/sda1
root=live
but all failed.
I got error “Don’t know how to handle (rd.live.image)
What should I write so it run successfully.
One more thing that I have do the same with debian it successfully run.
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stab … t/mini.iso
<http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/installer-i386/20190702/images/netboot/mini.iso>
grub>loopback loop (hd0,msdos1)/Downloads/mini.iso
grub>Linux (loop)/Linux
grub>Initrd (loop)/initrd.gz
grub>Boot
it successfully run.
Please resolve my issue.
Many thanks,
Rao
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| From | Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> |
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| Date | 2021-08-06 18:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <CJb33-21v-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #238270 |
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Hi,
On 2021-08-06 12:06 p.m., rao mohsin wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I am Rao Mohsin from Pakistan. I am following
> https://www.howtogeek.com/196933/how-to … ard-drive/ 1
> <https://www.howtogeek.com/196933/how-to-boot-linux-iso-images-directly-from-your-hard-drive/>
> this tutorial for booting my system directly from ISO file. this
> tutorial is on Ubuntu 14. I am trying on Fedora (13,20,24,29)
>
Maybe ask on a Fedora mailing list / support group / stack overflow ?
> I did not understand this line
> boot=casper iso-scan/filename=${isofile} quiet
> I download Fedora ISOs from fedora website.
> https://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/ … ve/x86_64/
> <https://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/releases/20/Live/x86_64/>
>
> I found vmlinuz and initrd file and mentioned accordingly. But the issue
> is the line.
> Boot=casper……
> I am writing
> root=live:CDLABEL=Fedora-Mate-Live-29-1-2
> root=rd.live.image
> root=(hd0,msdos1)
> root=/dev/sda1
> root=live
>
> but all failed.
> I got error “Don’t know how to handle (rd.live.image)
> What should I write so it run successfully.
> One more thing that I have do the same with debian it successfully run.
> http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stab … t/mini.iso
> <http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/installer-i386/20190702/images/netboot/mini.iso>
>
> grub>loopback loop (hd0,msdos1)/Downloads/mini.iso
> grub>Linux (loop)/Linux
> grub>Initrd (loop)/initrd.gz
> grub>Boot
> it successfully run.
>
> Please resolve my issue.
>
> Many thanks,
> Rao
>
--
Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside
-Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development
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| From | didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-08-06 21:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <CJdey-3eE-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #238272 |
I can give no evidence but chances are that Gunnar Gervin, Rishi and roa moshin (non-limitative list) are the same troll: there are troubling similarities...
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| From | Gunnar Gervin <dofeelok@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-08-06 22:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <CJeWZ-4hn-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #238279 |
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Didier, most certainly you cannot prove God bless you. BR, Gunnar Gervin. 20200619_165027.jpg <https://drive.google.com/file/d/19l7LttM_2XqcfwOxaf6wCzudf6GlaMn-/view?usp=drivesdk> On Fri, 6 Aug 2021, 21:57 didier gaumet, <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> wrote: > I can give no evidence but chances are that Gunnar Gervin, Rishi and roa > moshin (non-limitative list) are the same troll: there are troubling > similarities... > >
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| From | Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> |
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| Date | 2021-08-06 23:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <CJfgl-4D1-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #238284 |
On Fri, Aug 06, 2021 at 11:48:46PM +0300, Gunnar Gervin wrote: > Didier, > most certainly you cannot prove Wow. You really are a horrible person, aren't you. And so, another person goes into my kill file.
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| From | Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> |
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| Date | 2021-08-07 00:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <CJgP7-5sF-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #238286 |
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Hi, On 2021-08-06 5:08 p.m., Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Aug 06, 2021 at 11:48:46PM +0300, Gunnar Gervin wrote: >> Didier, >> most certainly you cannot prove > > Wow. You really are a horrible person, aren't you. > > And so, another person goes into my kill file. > Showing a random passport doesn't show much, except maybe that you ain't the rightful owner of this passport. Anyway, in my country we don't use much passport as identification, we have other means like our health card, driver license, etc. I wouldn't use my passport to show on a public forum that I'm the person who I say being. -- Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside -Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development
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| From | Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> |
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| Date | 2021-08-07 01:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <CJgYO-5vZ-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #238290 |
On Fri, Aug 06, 2021 at 06:49:13PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-08-06 5:08 p.m., Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 06, 2021 at 11:48:46PM +0300, Gunnar Gervin wrote: > >> Didier, > >> most certainly you cannot prove > > > > Wow. You really are a horrible person, aren't you. > > > > And so, another person goes into my kill file. > > > Showing a random passport doesn't show much, except maybe that you ain't > the rightful owner of this passport. I didn't even open the URL they gave. I didn't care what it was, really. They were accused of using multiple (phony) personas on a mailing list, and how did they respond? Not "you're wrong", but "you can't prove it". To me, that's a tacit ADMISSION of guilt. As in, "Ha ha, look at how clever I am, I fooled you all, and I'm getting away with it!" Well, this is not a court of law. We do not have to PROVE that someone has acted with malice. If you even simply pretend to be a malicious person, that's more than enough to get yourself ignored. Earlier, I gave them the benefit of the doubt, and said that there wasn't enough evidence that they were trolling us. As it turns out, I was wrong. That happens.
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| From | Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2021-08-07 01:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <CJhia-5Rw-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #238294 |
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Hi, On 2021-08-06 6:58 p.m., Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Aug 06, 2021 at 06:49:13PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On 2021-08-06 5:08 p.m., Greg Wooledge wrote: >>> On Fri, Aug 06, 2021 at 11:48:46PM +0300, Gunnar Gervin wrote: >>>> Didier, >>>> most certainly you cannot prove >>> >>> Wow. You really are a horrible person, aren't you. >>> >>> And so, another person goes into my kill file. >>> >> Showing a random passport doesn't show much, except maybe that you ain't >> the rightful owner of this passport. > > I didn't even open the URL they gave. I didn't care what it was, really. > > They were accused of using multiple (phony) personas on a mailing list, > and how did they respond? Not "you're wrong", but "you can't prove it". > I didn't understand it this way but now as you describe it this way, it becomes more clear to my mind. It's a childish behavior of thinking that because there's no proof then it means that there won't be consequences. But as you say, we ain't a court of law. It's only required that people believe you did something for them to act like you did it. You get someone new at the job and for the first time ever, the printer is jammed and there's a broken Ink cartridge. Everyone knows that this printer must be handled with care. The new worker say "You can't prove it's me", no we don't have a picture of you jamming the printer by using the wrong paper thickness BUT WE HAVE PROBABLE CAUSE it's you. And probably the boss won't keep you long... > To me, that's a tacit ADMISSION of guilt. As in, "Ha ha, look at how > clever I am, I fooled you all, and I'm getting away with it!" > I don't think we are part of the fool here... Even more as his last message was strangely the most clearly written one in the whole context of conversation with him. > Well, this is not a court of law. We do not have to PROVE that someone > has acted with malice. If you even simply pretend to be a malicious > person, that's more than enough to get yourself ignored. > > Earlier, I gave them the benefit of the doubt, and said that there wasn't > enough evidence that they were trolling us. As it turns out, I was wrong. > That happens. > Giving benefit of doubt is never wrong, it's the proof with have faith in human. -- Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside -Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development
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| From | Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2021-08-07 13:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <CJsdz-3YX-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #238296 |
On Fri 06 Aug 2021 at 19:11:48 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: [...] > It's only required that people believe you did something for them to act > like you did it. Indeed. Disseminate an unsubstantiated rumour (as in this thread) and it's not long before the lynch mob hits the streets. -- Brian.
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| From | Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> |
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| Date | 2021-08-07 15:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <CJuIq-5yp-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #238313 |
On Sat, Aug 07, 2021 at 11:56:52AM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Fri 06 Aug 2021 at 19:11:48 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > [...] > > > It's only required that people believe you did something for them to act > > like you did it. > > Indeed. Disseminate an unsubstantiated rumour (as in this thread) and > it's not long before the lynch mob hits the streets. I would never have blocked "Gunnar" based on an accusation that he was trolling. I blocked him after he confessed that he was trolling.
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| From | Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> |
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| Date | 2021-08-07 16:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <CJvbr-5Xm-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #238320 |
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Hi, On 2021-08-07 9:31 a.m., Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Aug 07, 2021 at 11:56:52AM +0100, Brian wrote: >> On Fri 06 Aug 2021 at 19:11:48 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >> >> [...] >> >>> It's only required that people believe you did something for them to act >>> like you did it. >> >> Indeed. Disseminate an unsubstantiated rumour (as in this thread) and >> it's not long before the lynch mob hits the streets. > > I would never have blocked "Gunnar" based on an accusation that he > was trolling. > > I blocked him after he confessed that he was trolling. > I think that the line that was crossed simply mandate that he gets ignored by now. I did so with the last message he sent me yesterday (and posted on the list). Was a bunch of hard to follow series of sentence. But this confirm that it seems to be a choice done on having incomprehensible messages and loose talk, because he did write some clear and well written message. I feel that many person cherry pick one message, like the one I wrote and got out of context, talking about a Lynch mob. Often when someone ask for help, we'll answer back that there's information missing so we can answer properly. Example, the person say *I can't start X11* And we'll ask What version of Debian are you running ? What are the outputs ? Logs ? What's your graphic card / GPU ? etc... Why do we do so ? So our answer is relevant. Same rules apply when giving comment, if you want to have it relevant then look at the whole story. Or you'll only get a part and go off track. And it's exactly what happened here. We got someone who add a sentence relating to a lynch mob. Where it wasn't the case in no way. And those are the same person that are unable to justify what they say, but wanna benefit from free speech to add a point. *Dider*: There's some similarities between this dude and two others troller. *Dude*: You have no proof it's me *Dude*: You have no proof it's me... I post someone's Passport ID page. *Me*: Posting a passport id page is a criminal offense in most countries AND doesn't proof much, except maybe that you'd be dumb to post your own. *Greg* says : That's a for of guilt admission, not saying "I didn't do it" but saying "No proof". *Me* : Exactly, it's not a court of law here. So it's not about proof but about what will people get from what you say. *and now the best* *Irrelevant writer* : This is a acting mob looking for a lynch. I'd start to also call this some strange form of trolling. -- Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside -Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development
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| From | "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> |
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| Date | 2021-08-07 16:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <CJvuN-63Q-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #238323 |
On Sat, Aug 07, 2021 at 10:02:36AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-08-07 9:31 a.m., Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 07, 2021 at 11:56:52AM +0100, Brian wrote: > >> On Fri 06 Aug 2021 at 19:11:48 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > >> > >> [...] > >> > >>> It's only required that people believe you did something for them to act > >>> like you did it. > >> > >> Indeed. Disseminate an unsubstantiated rumour (as in this thread) and > >> it's not long before the lynch mob hits the streets. > > > > I would never have blocked "Gunnar" based on an accusation that he > > was trolling. > > > > I blocked him after he confessed that he was trolling. Personally blocking people / adding them to your "I'll ignore this person when I see them" is fine. [The old "Congratulations, you have found your way into my killfile. *PLONK* - type message.] Accusing people of trolling is generally not helpful in any way. > > > I think that the line that was crossed simply mandate that he gets > ignored by now. > I did so with the last message he sent me yesterday (and posted on the > list). Was a bunch of hard to follow series of sentence. But this > confirm that it seems to be a choice done on having incomprehensible > messages and loose talk, because he did write some clear and well > written message. I think that this person had difficulties in explaining themselves. That made it annoying / frustrating to see no progress. We all threw in effort and it didn't seem to be going very far. I'm not going to speculate whther that difficulty was accidental / deliberate to wastte our time. > > I feel that many person cherry pick one message, like the one I wrote > and got out of context, talking about a Lynch mob. > > Often when someone ask for help, we'll answer back that there's > information missing so we can answer properly. > Example, the person say > *I can't start X11* > And we'll ask > What version of Debian are you running ? > What are the outputs ? Logs ? > What's your graphic card / GPU ? > etc... > See also why I picked some elements from Greg's list / David's message to put into the monthly FAQ messsage. It now has a section on how to ask good questions and read the answers. Thanks, list, for reminding me and making me amend the mail. > Why do we do so ? > So our answer is relevant. > > Same rules apply when giving comment, if you want to have it relevant > then look at the whole story. > Or you'll only get a part and go off track. This has been a particularly frustrating thread and hard to follow in general. > And it's exactly what happened here. > We got someone who add a sentence relating to a lynch mob. Where it > wasn't the case in no way. And those are the same person that are unable > to justify what they say, but wanna benefit from free speech to add a point. > > *Dider*: There's some similarities between this dude and two others troller. > *Dude*: You have no proof it's me > *Dude*: You have no proof it's me... I post someone's Passport ID page. > *Me*: Posting a passport id page is a criminal offense in most countries > AND doesn't proof much, except maybe that you'd be dumb to post your own. > *Greg* says : That's a for of guilt admission, not saying "I didn't do > it" but saying "No proof". > *Me* : Exactly, it's not a court of law here. So it's not about proof > but about what will people get from what you say. > *and now the best* > *Irrelevant writer* : This is a acting mob looking for a lynch. > > I'd start to also call this some strange form of trolling. It's not straightforward to make this a useful list where people feel welcome and able to raise issues. At the risk of sounding very "pink and fluffy": many of the people who appear here are not familiar with mailing lists at all. We need to look at everyone "with kind eyes" to some extent unless they are abruptly hostile and to give people the benefit of the doubt. One way to deal with people being difficult is to report the issue to the Community Team. Full disclosure: I'm part of the Community Team as is Steve Mcintyre who pops up here occasionally. The team will normally talk it over, decide what action to take and carry it out. That can be just an email off list to the person being difficult, a recommendation to block someone to go to the listmasters - anything seen as appropriate. Another way - which is quicker and easier in some ways - is to choose to ignore them for the sake of your own peace of mind. Not every post has to be replied to. Not everything demands a response about the character of the poster: even if it does, waiting a couple of hours to reply may always be a good idea. Others may post in the meantime and you may find that you no longer lead to post. All the very best to all, as ever, Andy Cater > -- > Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside > -Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development > [Copied also to Community Team mail alias for their reference].
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| From | Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> |
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| Date | 2021-08-07 17:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <CJw7w-6wa-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #238327 |
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On 2021-08-07 10:26 a.m., Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > I think that this person had difficulties in explaining themselves. That made > it annoying / frustrating to see no progress. We all threw in effort and it > didn't seem to be going very far. I'm not going to speculate whther that > difficulty was accidental / deliberate to wastte our time. > >> >> I feel that many person cherry pick one message, like the one I wrote >> and got out of context, talking about a Lynch mob. >> >> Often when someone ask for help, we'll answer back that there's >> information missing so we can answer properly. >> Example, the person say >> *I can't start X11* >> And we'll ask >> What version of Debian are you running ? >> What are the outputs ? Logs ? >> What's your graphic card / GPU ? >> etc... >> > > See also why I picked some elements from Greg's list / David's message to > put into the monthly FAQ messsage. It now has a section on how to ask > good questions and read the answers. Thanks, list, for reminding me and > making me amend the mail. > I've worked at tech support for many years, mostly on the 2nd level, that is doing follow up on problems reported by agent on the phone. And even if we selected agent with good educational background, it didn't do the job and we had questions that missed the most basic information to be answered, people saying what they expect and not what they tried or what they use, etc. This is something hard to get for many. And this not only apply to our lists here, most of us know what we don't want but have problem saying what we'd like. >> Why do we do so ? >> So our answer is relevant. >> >> Same rules apply when giving comment, if you want to have it relevant >> then look at the whole story. >> Or you'll only get a part and go off track. > > This has been a particularly frustrating thread and hard to follow in > general. > It's not straightforward to make this a useful list where people feel > welcome and able to raise issues. At the risk of sounding very "pink and > fluffy": many of the people who appear here are not familiar with mailing > lists at all. We need to look at everyone "with kind eyes" to some extent > unless they are abruptly hostile and to give people the benefit of the > doubt. > I always try to give explanation to others when their question seem hard to follow, or simply to use a good descriptive subject. This doesn't seem to be appreciated by some. Strangely, most of the time, the original poster will say thanks at one moment, the complaints seem to come from others who'd prefer only to ignore. > One way to deal with people being difficult is to report the issue to > the Community Team. Full disclosure: I'm part of the Community Team > as is Steve Mcintyre who pops up here occasionally. The team will > normally talk it over, decide what action to take and carry it out. > That can be just an email off list to the person being difficult, > a recommendation to block someone to go to the listmasters - anything > seen as appropriate. > Thanks for you work. I've reported to Google (probably useless) the user who posted a Passport on a Google Drive link. > Another way - which is quicker and easier in some ways - is to choose to > ignore them for the sake of your own peace of mind. Not every post has > to be replied to. Not everything demands a response about the character > of the poster: even if it does, waiting a couple of hours to reply may > always be a good idea. Others may post in the meantime and you may find > that you no longer lead to post. > > All the very best to all, as ever, > > Andy Cater >> -- >> Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside >> -Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development >> > > [Copied also to Community Team mail alias for their reference]. > -- Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside -Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development
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| From | Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2021-08-07 18:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <CJwTT-6LI-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #238327 |
On Sat 07 Aug 2021 at 14:26:41 +0000, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Sat, Aug 07, 2021 at 10:02:36AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On 2021-08-07 9:31 a.m., Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 07, 2021 at 11:56:52AM +0100, Brian wrote: > > >> On Fri 06 Aug 2021 at 19:11:48 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > >> > > >> [...] > > >> > > >>> It's only required that people believe you did something for them to act > > >>> like you did it. > > >> > > >> Indeed. Disseminate an unsubstantiated rumour (as in this thread) and > > >> it's not long before the lynch mob hits the streets. > > > > > > I would never have blocked "Gunnar" based on an accusation that he > > > was trolling. > > > > > > I blocked him after he confessed that he was trolling. > > Personally blocking people / adding them to your "I'll ignore this person > when I see them" is fine. [The old "Congratulations, you have found your > way into my killfile. *PLONK* - type message.] Given that it is a user's right to control the mail he wants to receive, I have always found it it strange when a blocking is announced to the world. > Accusing people of trolling is generally not helpful in any way. It is hardly assuming good faith. Just do not reply. > > I think that the line that was crossed simply mandate that he gets > > ignored by now. > > I did so with the last message he sent me yesterday (and posted on the > > list). Was a bunch of hard to follow series of sentence. But this > > confirm that it seems to be a choice done on having incomprehensible > > messages and loose talk, because he did write some clear and well > > written message. > > I think that this person had difficulties in explaining themselves. That made > it annoying / frustrating to see no progress. We all threw in effort and it > didn't seem to be going very far. I'm not going to speculate whther that > difficulty was accidental / deliberate to wastte our time. Speculating on people's motives in public is fraught at the best of times. On this list "Assume good faith" is a guiding principle so you wouldn't do it anyway. > > I feel that many person cherry pick one message, like the one I wrote > > and got out of context, talking about a Lynch mob. > > > > Often when someone ask for help, we'll answer back that there's > > information missing so we can answer properly. > > Example, the person say > > *I can't start X11* > > And we'll ask > > What version of Debian are you running ? > > What are the outputs ? Logs ? > > What's your graphic card / GPU ? > > etc... > > > > See also why I picked some elements from Greg's list / David's message to > put into the monthly FAQ messsage. It now has a section on how to ask > good questions and read the answers. Thanks, list, for reminding me and > making me amend the mail. > > > Why do we do so ? > > So our answer is relevant. > > > > Same rules apply when giving comment, if you want to have it relevant > > then look at the whole story. > > Or you'll only get a part and go off track. > > This has been a particularly frustrating thread and hard to follow in > general. I found its general thrust easy to follow. User-criticism par excellance. -- Brian.
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| From | <tomas@tuxteam.de> |
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| Date | 2021-08-07 23:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <CJC3f-1va-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #238327 |
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On Sat, Aug 07, 2021 at 02:26:41PM +0000, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: [...] > Accusing people of trolling is generally not helpful in any way. I totally agree. And I'm a bit horrified by the hostility shown towards the OP by some. Cheers - t
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| From | Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2021-08-08 00:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <CJCFY-1XL-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #238352 |
On Sat 07 Aug 2021 at 23:24:31 +0200, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Aug 07, 2021 at 02:26:41PM +0000, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > [...] > > > Accusing people of trolling is generally not helpful in any way. > > I totally agree. And I'm a bit horrified by the hostility shown > towards the OP by some. There wasn't any hostility shown to the OP of this thread. He was collateral damage. You can thank didier gaumet and his baseless accusation for that. Apology, I hear you ask? Don't hold your breath. -- Brian.
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| From | Brian Thompson <brian@hashvault.io> |
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| Date | 2021-08-08 00:10 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian |
| Message-ID | <CJCFY-1XL-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #238353 |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On Sat, 2021-08-07 at 23:01 +0100, Brian wrote: > On Sat 07 Aug 2021 at 23:24:31 +0200, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 07, 2021 at 02:26:41PM +0000, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > Accusing people of trolling is generally not helpful in any way. > > > > I totally agree. And I'm a bit horrified by the hostility shown > > towards the OP by some. > > There wasn't any hostility shown to the OP of this thread. He was > collateral damage. You can thank didier gaumet and his baseless > accusation for that. > > Apology, I hear you ask? Don't hold your breath. > The debian-user mailing list is a joke. I don't want to say its main users are people looking for an e-peen ego boost, but there are quite a few arrogant and self-righteous individuals that make almost any civil discussion turn hostile. It's amusing to watch as much as it is sad. - -- Best regards, Brian T. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJHBAEBCgAxFiEE9fpVo96/flopdKOfgw2Ncu3Nhn0FAmEPBFITHGJyaWFuQGhh c2h2YXVsdC5pbwAKCRCDDY1y7c2GfZZVD/9X925byB6ypHfyzd9oCw+CjMGojSOb nF9mphf0x8Se/r0PfkKrKnqd6oD79TtSyJTFjUou8OxCwkYC0So1HOgNECDXoRat R0CXv5CCh5EYSyS8ClwWPWJrH4mL67RxdDVKNAtUuHtjYbRTjY8M3v9rGZyffgit vEFip3o61YibZ2psmnfZz0iJLcViQmixMPNJ5KH2Lk/TvqKk1X08mvjuVvyNOuNO v03mB87P1ls4cGDy9UsUfUjTrpyHXipjErzr+aEAa5kv3lLQVDYjBFU8NkS4arTM rARkdx1Pxw/SsQLCR90yLo/fd7co/mxFz5wntnKl/TdvX1jWK+/qHAsx2qBIALA5 hn6ED5fHqn04jZ7P0ip5BNEob/v+teDTuNUJcgUH4+qafsn7QMqvIRbS5dJTDksb JZqC5SNMJHmjYW51iFpRyan7rhCwEGgjbSAh7kDDut1WUgCuE80EFf8wh1iJnH7l zaVrPIMXyCqQkPNwgFwiWtoKF7o7bnAMgIsXkK2+BN8g+GyUZ+7ZFZQYsdrCtZ7S nV9L0XhdPvVa2eb+UPqLBiIzMZXpqXqeBD1A9BbV1HNxUW9J9kHpm7BVIKbSK/sQ Iez81weVuYCUaXip0uaWDsejRsZiZQtzpdbF48zIHy5pl9luxXw8JQ8VWzCVBud7 0n1evAer6HFG9A== =GzHo -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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| From | <tomas@tuxteam.de> |
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| Date | 2021-08-08 08:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <CJK0N-6tu-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #238354 |
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On Sat, Aug 07, 2021 at 05:08:18PM -0500, Brian Thompson wrote: [...] > The debian-user mailing list is a joke [...] You would expect some conflict in such a big community. Nevertheless, what you're doing here doesn't help in any way, I fear. Perhaps you don't care, but then... why are you here at all? Your post is, in some tragic way, self-referential. Not that I think you have any bad intentions, mind you. But it makes me sad. Cheers - t
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| From | Brian Thompson <brian@hashvault.io> |
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| Date | 2021-08-08 09:10 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian |
| Message-ID | <CJL6x-7kV-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #238356 |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On Sun, 2021-08-08 at 07:57 +0200, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Aug 07, 2021 at 05:08:18PM -0500, Brian Thompson wrote: > > [...] > > > The debian-user mailing list is a joke [...] > > You would expect some conflict in such a big community. > Nevertheless, what you're doing here doesn't help in any > way, I fear. > > Perhaps you don't care, but then... why are you here at > all? > > Your post is, in some tragic way, self-referential. Not > that I think you have any bad intentions, mind you. But > it makes me sad. > > Cheers > - t Sure, I don't disagree with you that my email doesn't contribute to the problem. However, I rarely post on this mailing list and mostly just read it. There are others who contribute far more on a daily basis to the problem that you fear than I have contributed in all my tenure on this mailing list. That doesn't justify my original message, but there are far greater problems than the act of satirically pointing out the problem. - -- Best regards, Brian T. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJHBAEBCgAxFiEE9fpVo96/flopdKOfgw2Ncu3Nhn0FAmEPgb8THGJyaWFuQGhh c2h2YXVsdC5pbwAKCRCDDY1y7c2GfdgGEACJA0xy6/gs1P2fNZ+iCoImkYnJQX0G D6O7yBDBKpi8/4LH24kCS3UQ34NnIB+bP2toXRzra1gITSNHhFRYk6En1MRZEdHc YP8QOHcWZO7XaE8dOKWe1qEbdufpZlIA+eYvxvy39pMaqwBQbK907hz3wu6CV7LB T+p7Thhz5K2b8upy8C8wmGh7fAcmRc7S+coxh15CXcJSRHBhMvGiNUhZ9hDxzpL1 tyCx2L8jpNZNbH/CJACUaP7huteRu3ynOQjNv1HTY6AsY+O6N1jz1vJ3BAWRZZzH 1PYlfuxuRnV/Dk+wxRwCt/mpqAZ//Pgv/TMzgJ0koWmUha5hN4r0Xn0kSBQJMs6b oFVyuEfueCZ4S40wB6vagt4Z9IbntDPn+2mNzyqYxG/MV+65n6EWQO0t/aEeR1f9 dz+hnj8aVZbIrtfGKiEYzPyhSdY2k6kywjI2rlpdlRxLaMeJjAGt4PCQL0MNipf1 Nh+yeOzU+dGwHw9wKFlHwuAbF6BTaiZA29+lNfZwGNLkE4JolLEEnjwSAQITtqft lK0lgj8xvwWqr3smdp4kvP1e/2aaQvZUmH2lZMIPt4bZt1Jl9i2JOTKao5MP/A85 UMACP9p7OA1z0GK8rAzZSayDw9vTnjSJoBChwFuz+5g1d8DhznCFUU6GTlYQ50sk D53g6NQ5le21DQ== =lHt/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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| From | <tomas@tuxteam.de> |
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| Date | 2021-08-08 11:40 +0200 |
| Subject | On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian] |
| Message-ID | <CJNrH-cM-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #238358 |
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On Sun, Aug 08, 2021 at 02:03:27AM -0500, Brian Thompson wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA512 > > On Sun, 2021-08-08 at 07:57 +0200, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 07, 2021 at 05:08:18PM -0500, Brian Thompson wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > The debian-user mailing list is a joke [...] > > > > You would expect some conflict in such a big community [...] > > Your post is, in some tragic way, self-referential [...] Looking back, that sounds too harsh and is definitely stated in a negative way... > Sure, I don't disagree with you that my email doesn't contribute to the > problem [...] > That doesn't justify my original message, but there are far greater > problems than the act of satirically pointing out the problem. ... so let me try to improve on that: any ideas on how to make the situation better? Cheers - t
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