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Re: Help! Thunderbird lost my passwords

Started by"Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com>
First post2021-07-19 07:20 +0200
Last post2021-08-04 12:30 +0200
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  Re: Help! Thunderbird lost my passwords "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2021-07-19 07:20 +0200
    Re: Help! Thunderbird lost my passwords Douglas McGarrett <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> - 2021-08-04 02:30 +0200
      Re: Help! Thunderbird lost my passwords Keith Bainbridge <ke1thrboz@gmx.com> - 2021-08-04 03:00 +0200
        Re: Help! Thunderbird lost my passwords Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2021-08-04 03:30 +0200
      Re: Help! Thunderbird lost my passwords "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2021-08-04 12:30 +0200

#237517 — Re: Help! Thunderbird lost my passwords

From"Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com>
Date2021-07-19 07:20 +0200
SubjectRe: Help! Thunderbird lost my passwords
Message-ID<CCtR7-7FC-1@gated-at.bofh.it>

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On 19.07.2021 05:13, wix@mgssub.com wrote:
> I installed tbird 78.12.0 (64-bit)
>  and it can't find my email passwords. I have browsed signons.sqlite
>  and the passwords seem to be there in the middle of the db. I have 
> tried to install a prior version of tbird but dpkg has thwarted those 
> efforts so far! Any other ideas suggestions would be appreciated!
>
> Many TIA!
> Dennis
If you didn't setup "Master Password" in ThunderBird, you can try "Mail 
PassView" utility from NirSoft. [1]
It works with WINE.
If password database files were not corrupted somehow, it will show 
stored accounts and passwords from TB profile.


[1] https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/mailpv.html

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#238112

FromDouglas McGarrett <dmcgarrett@optonline.net>
Date2021-08-04 02:30 +0200
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On 7/19/21 1:15 AM, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
> On 19.07.2021 05:13, wix@mgssub.com wrote:
>> I installed tbird 78.12.0 (64-bit)
>>  and it can't find my email passwords. I have browsed signons.sqlite
>>  and the passwords seem to be there in the middle of the db. I have 
>> tried to install a prior version of tbird but dpkg has thwarted those 
>> efforts so far! Any other ideas suggestions would be appreciated!
>>
>> Many TIA!
>> Dennis
> If you didn't setup "Master Password" in ThunderBird, you can try 
> "Mail PassView" utility from NirSoft. [1]
> It works with WINE.
> If password database files were not corrupted somehow, it will show 
> stored accounts and passwords from TB profile.
>
>
> [1] https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/mailpv.html
I recently downloaded and installed T/B after having lost the use of it 
a couple of months ago when it refused
to recognize my password or any new one. Now it is working, and I hope 
it continues. At any rate, I did not see
anything about a Master Password. What is it, and where is it, and 
should I need it?
--doug

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#238113

FromKeith Bainbridge <ke1thrboz@gmx.com>
Date2021-08-04 03:00 +0200
Message-ID<CIdqh-7lt-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238112
On 4/8/21 10:03, Douglas McGarrett wrote:
> a Master Password. What is it, and where is it, and should I need it?


go: edit|preferences|privacy& Security

and on my screen 'Passwords' is close to the bottom before you start
scrolling

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All the best

Keith Bainbridge

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#238114

FromJude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com>
Date2021-08-04 03:30 +0200
Message-ID<CIdTj-7JL-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#238113
All passwords need to be written and secured.  First by being part of a
book or being in a specific place in a hard copy file.  Second, encrypted
before written down.  For anyone to be able to use any of those passwords
even if found they'd have to know the encryption system you used.

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#238119

From"Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com>
Date2021-08-04 12:30 +0200
Message-ID<CImjT-4US-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On 04.08.2021 05:03, Douglas McGarrett wrote:
>
>
> On 7/19/21 1:15 AM, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
>> On 19.07.2021 05:13, wix@mgssub.com wrote:
>>> I installed tbird 78.12.0 (64-bit)
>>>  and it can't find my email passwords. I have browsed signons.sqlite
>>>  and the passwords seem to be there in the middle of the db. I have 
>>> tried to install a prior version of tbird but dpkg has thwarted 
>>> those efforts so far! Any other ideas suggestions would be appreciated!
>>>
>>> Many TIA!
>>> Dennis
>> If you didn't setup "Master Password" in ThunderBird, you can try 
>> "Mail PassView" utility from NirSoft. [1]
>> It works with WINE.
>> If password database files were not corrupted somehow, it will show 
>> stored accounts and passwords from TB profile.
>>
>>
>> [1] https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/mailpv.html
> I recently downloaded and installed T/B after having lost the use of 
> it a couple of months ago when it refused
> to recognize my password or any new one. Now it is working, and I hope 
> it continues. At any rate, I did not see
> anything about a Master Password. What is it, and where is it, and 
> should I need it?
> --doug
I've never had any issues with T/B, but I've seen complains from other 
people multiple times about password-related problems.
Which could be explained by not so smooth automatic migration from old 
password storage database format to a new one.
I usually delay updates installation for T/B and other business-critical 
software by a few weeks or so, and that could be the reason I've avoided 
said issues so far.

Passwords and account information in T/B (and other Mozilla software?) 
are stored in an reversible-encrypted state by default.
So, for an example, if T/B profile and password DB files were stolen by 
malware they could be decrypted effortlessly using forensic utilities, 
like "Mail PassView".
A "Master password" feature protects password DB files by adding 
additional layer of encryption, which could be decrypted only if you use 
a master password.
So, in the same scenario I've described above, even if badguys will 
steal a profile files with password DB files, they won't be able to 
decrypt them easily without master password and will have to use 
time-consuming "bruteforce" techniques to get it.

The only inconvenience of master password feature, once you enable it, 
you will have to enter it each time you launch a T/B session and every 
time you will want to see saved passwords in plain text.
The ordinary EMail functions, like sending and receiving, won't be 
affected by it.

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With kindest regards, Alexander.

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