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  Iso to Usb Gunnar Gervin <dofeelok@gmail.com> - 2021-08-02 22:50 +0200
    Being concise [Re: Iso to Usb] Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-02 23:40 +0200
      Re: Being concise [Re: Iso to Usb] ellanios82 <ellanios82@gmail.com> - 2021-08-02 23:40 +0200
        Re: Being concise [Re: Iso to Usb] Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-02 23:50 +0200
      Re: Being concise [Re: Iso to Usb] "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-08-03 00:50 +0200
        Re: Being concise [Re: Iso to Usb] Gunnar Gervin <dofeelok@gmail.com> - 2021-08-03 13:40 +0200

#238062 — Iso to Usb

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I cowarded out of Terminal, or not really, cos Gnome Multiwriter did it in
5 minutes.
But later I`ll try it, if 64 bit doesn`t work in this old computer that
only Looks like a Mac. But is it, really? Not in my point of view; no Mac
software, except some hotkey functions, a pretty good keyboard, so-and-so
dvd player, & a Toshiba SSD (original or not; did SSD exist in 2007? Who
cares? Philosophy, history, or both? What's "both"? Psychology, haha;
narrative philosophical walkthroughs PC pasts?)
BR,
geg

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#238065 — Being concise [Re: Iso to Usb]

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Hi,
What are you asking for here ? Or trying to achieve ?

On 2021-08-02 4:48 p.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote:
> I cowarded out of Terminal, or not really, cos Gnome Multiwriter did it
> in 5 minutes.
> But later I`ll try it, if 64 bit doesn`t work in this old computer that
> only Looks like a Mac. But is it, really? Not in my point of view; no
Your point of view is irrelevant unless you are having a conversation
with yourself.

What make a computer a "Mac" or not a "Mac" is totally unrelated to the
software you run on it. No one asked you "Do you run MacOS".

What make your computer a Mac and still a Mac, and will be a Mac, was a
Mac, continue to be a Mac is the plain fact that it's got produced on
Apple's production line and is running all the software in ROM required
to boot that make it a Mac. If it's not a Mac, then it's a PC and you
either have BIOS or UEFI, which is not the case.

> Mac software, except some hotkey functions, a pretty good keyboard,
> so-and-so dvd player, & a Toshiba SSD (original or not; did SSD exist in
> 2007? Who cares? Philosophy, history, or both? What's "both"?
Yes SSD existed in 2007 and what's the point ?

What's the link between SSD and what you are writing here ?

You seem to be part of a one-man show...

I've tried to give you a helping hand but don't seem much to get it.

And as I've seen other have tried too.

Linux is supported by dozen of architectures, does they all become PCs
because they ain't running their original operating system. No they
don't....

> Psychology, haha; narrative philosophical walkthroughs PC pasts?)
Only you seem to be making so deep heard philosophical problem with
plain easy question
> BR,
> geg

-- 
Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside
-Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development

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#238066 — Re: Being concise [Re: Iso to Usb]

> unless you are having a conversation
> with yourself.


  - from time-to-time, do enjoy Canadienne,

     "the Amazing Polly"  [youtube]


.....

  rgds

.

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#238067 — Re: Being concise [Re: Iso to Usb]

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Hi,

On 2021-08-02 5:36 p.m., ellanios82 wrote:
> 
>> unless you are having a conversation
>> with yourself.
> 
> 
>  - from time-to-time, do enjoy Canadienne,
> 
All "Canadian" politicans enjoy having their own day-to-day,
conversation with themselves.

How did you know I was "canadienne" ?

Where you from ?

Always asked myself, how crazy do Amercian think we are ?

We don't have guns and go home at 20:00 when we do a riot.
>     "the Amazing Polly"  [youtube]
> 
> 
> .....
> 
>  rgds
> 
> .
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside
-Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development

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#238071 — Re: Being concise [Re: Iso to Usb]

On Mon, Aug 02, 2021 at 05:30:30PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> Hi,
> What are you asking for here ? Or trying to achieve ?
> 
> On 2021-08-02 4:48 p.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote:
> > I cowarded out of Terminal, or not really, cos Gnome Multiwriter did it
> > in 5 minutes.
> > But later I`ll try it, if 64 bit doesn`t work in this old computer that
> > only Looks like a Mac. But is it, really? Not in my point of view; no
> Your point of view is irrelevant unless you are having a conversation
> with yourself.
> 
> What make a computer a "Mac" or not a "Mac" is totally unrelated to the
> software you run on it. No one asked you "Do you run MacOS".
> 
> What make your computer a Mac and still a Mac, and will be a Mac, was a
> Mac, continue to be a Mac is the plain fact that it's got produced on
> Apple's production line and is running all the software in ROM required
> to boot that make it a Mac. If it's not a Mac, then it's a PC and you
> either have BIOS or UEFI, which is not the case.
> 
> > Mac software, except some hotkey functions, a pretty good keyboard,
> > so-and-so dvd player, & a Toshiba SSD (original or not; did SSD exist in
> > 2007? Who cares? Philosophy, history, or both? What's "both"?
> Yes SSD existed in 2007 and what's the point ?
> 
> What's the link between SSD and what you are writing here ?
> 
> You seem to be part of a one-man show...
> 
> I've tried to give you a helping hand but don't seem much to get it.
> 
> And as I've seen other have tried too.
> 
> Linux is supported by dozen of architectures, does they all become PCs
> because they ain't running their original operating system. No they
> don't....
> 
> > Psychology, haha; narrative philosophical walkthroughs PC pasts?)
> Only you seem to be making so deep heard philosophical problem with
> plain easy question
> > BR,
> > geg
> 
> -- 
> Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside
> -Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development
> 

Gunnar,

You have Mac hardware from almost exactly the right vintage to use a 
specific for early Mac image. It boots in 32 bit EFI and then runs 64 bit.

https://wiki.debian.org/MacMiniIntel#Macmini_2.2C1

and the up to date Debian 10.10 image you need is at:

https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-mac-10.10.0-amd64-netinst.iso

This may solve your problems for installing on Mac hardware of that vintage.
It may not solve other problems but it should, at least, get you something
consistent. [If this image works for you, you will be one of a very few
people running this on that particular model - an installation report
would be very valuable.]

As Polyna says - you have Apple Mac hardware. That has its own peculiarities.

On 3G of memory in total, you may find problems in running anything intensive.

I can only recommend Dan Ritter's advice to go away and read and to tackle one
problem at a time. Allow yourself time to get one stable Debian system
running on that hardware. 14 year old hardware is pushing the boundaries
on reliability but, as you've seen, it is a learning experience.

All best, as ever,

Andy Cater

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#238082 — Re: Being concise [Re: Iso to Usb]

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Andy,
THX A LOT! To the point;
Booting in 32b, running 64.
Seen a lot i686, &/or 64b software in it that confused me.
Now I may have a solution.
If this old (definitely a Mac 2,1):
Ever revives from this malstrom.
It matters a bit, cos my macbook Pro won't come back in week/s.
I have a Debian admin book to read, though, while waiting. Will do better
with VM e.g Virtualbox and Debian now I know it better than most Linux
distros I tried. Stable & free r good arguments to take the pain. A strange
adm book, though, that jumps over how to use Bash and Busybox in Debian
Rescue Mode/s (Yes, there seems to be two; 1 deeper into Rescue mode >
Crisis mode (Busybox) via f12 in startup, the other at 'shallow', first
level, via choosing Rescue mode(Bash) in installer,  Maybe both are outside
Debian? Challenge to write Exactly correct /sbin etc text in Bash to be
recognised.
Now I'll get slashed, but virtual slashes can't bleed me out much
Geg

On Tue, 3 Aug 2021, 01:46 Andrew M.A. Cater, <amacater@einval.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 02, 2021 at 05:30:30PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > What are you asking for here ? Or trying to achieve ?
> >
> > On 2021-08-02 4:48 p.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote:
> > > I cowarded out of Terminal, or not really, cos Gnome Multiwriter did it
> > > in 5 minutes.
> > > But later I`ll try it, if 64 bit doesn`t work in this old computer that
> > > only Looks like a Mac. But is it, really? Not in my point of view; no
> > Your point of view is irrelevant unless you are having a conversation
> > with yourself.
> >
> > What make a computer a "Mac" or not a "Mac" is totally unrelated to the
> > software you run on it. No one asked you "Do you run MacOS".
> >
> > What make your computer a Mac and still a Mac, and will be a Mac, was a
> > Mac, continue to be a Mac is the plain fact that it's got produced on
> > Apple's production line and is running all the software in ROM required
> > to boot that make it a Mac. If it's not a Mac, then it's a PC and you
> > either have BIOS or UEFI, which is not the case.
> >
> > > Mac software, except some hotkey functions, a pretty good keyboard,
> > > so-and-so dvd player, & a Toshiba SSD (original or not; did SSD exist
> in
> > > 2007? Who cares? Philosophy, history, or both? What's "both"?
> > Yes SSD existed in 2007 and what's the point ?
> >
> > What's the link between SSD and what you are writing here ?
> >
> > You seem to be part of a one-man show...
> >
> > I've tried to give you a helping hand but don't seem much to get it.
> >
> > And as I've seen other have tried too.
> >
> > Linux is supported by dozen of architectures, does they all become PCs
> > because they ain't running their original operating system. No they
> > don't....
> >
> > > Psychology, haha; narrative philosophical walkthroughs PC pasts?)
> > Only you seem to be making so deep heard philosophical problem with
> > plain easy question
> > > BR,
> > > geg
> >
> > --
> > Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside
> > -Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development
> >
>
> Gunnar,
>
> You have Mac hardware from almost exactly the right vintage to use a
> specific for early Mac image. It boots in 32 bit EFI and then runs 64 bit.
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/MacMiniIntel#Macmini_2.2C1
>
> and the up to date Debian 10.10 image you need is at:
>
>
> https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-mac-10.10.0-amd64-netinst.iso
>
> This may solve your problems for installing on Mac hardware of that
> vintage.
> It may not solve other problems but it should, at least, get you something
> consistent. [If this image works for you, you will be one of a very few
> people running this on that particular model - an installation report
> would be very valuable.]
>
> As Polyna says - you have Apple Mac hardware. That has its own
> peculiarities.
>
> On 3G of memory in total, you may find problems in running anything
> intensive.
>
> I can only recommend Dan Ritter's advice to go away and read and to tackle
> one
> problem at a time. Allow yourself time to get one stable Debian system
> running on that hardware. 14 year old hardware is pushing the boundaries
> on reliability but, as you've seen, it is a learning experience.
>
> All best, as ever,
>
> Andy Cater
>
>

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