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Types of Debian updates

Started byGunnar Gervin <dofeelok@gmail.com>
First post2021-07-27 17:10 +0200
Last post2021-07-27 17:50 +0200
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  Types of Debian updates Gunnar Gervin <dofeelok@gmail.com> - 2021-07-27 17:10 +0200
    Re: Types of Debian updates Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-07-27 17:40 +0200
      Re: Types of Debian updates Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-07-28 23:30 +0200
    Re: Types of Debian updates "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-07-27 17:40 +0200
      Re: Types of Debian updates Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-07-27 19:20 +0200
    Re: Types of Debian updates Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com> - 2021-07-27 17:50 +0200

#237804 — Types of Debian updates

FromGunnar Gervin <dofeelok@gmail.com>
Date2021-07-27 17:10 +0200
SubjectTypes of Debian updates
Message-ID<CFwSu-5UL-13@gated-at.bofh.it>

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Please tell & explain which update types there are like
Point release
Release
Update
New distro release etc/similar.
Geg

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#237805

FromGreg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org>
Date2021-07-27 17:40 +0200
Message-ID<CFxlv-65z-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#237804
On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 05:49:31PM +0300, Gunnar Gervin wrote:
> Please tell & explain which update types there are like
> Point release
> Release
> Update
> New distro release etc/similar.

You can start with <https://www.debian.org/releases/>
and <https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases>.

That wiki page then links to
<https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases/PointReleases> which addresses
your first question.

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#237860

FromPolyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com>
Date2021-07-28 23:30 +0200
Message-ID<CFZhL-70d-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#237805

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Hi Greg,

On 2021-07-27 11:34 a.m., Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 05:49:31PM +0300, Gunnar Gervin wrote:
>> Please tell & explain which update types there are like
>> Point release
>> Release
>> Update
>> New distro release etc/similar.
> 
> You can start with <https://www.debian.org/releases/>
> and <https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases>.
> 
> That wiki page then links to
> <https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases/PointReleases> which addresses
> your first question.
> 

RTNW ( Read the nice wiki) ?
A nicer version of RTFM ?

-- 
Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside
-Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development

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#237806

From"Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com>
Date2021-07-27 17:40 +0200
Message-ID<CFxlw-65z-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#237804
On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 05:49:31PM +0300, Gunnar Gervin wrote:
> Please tell & explain which update types there are like
> Point release

Debian has major release versions. The Debian stable version today (20210727)
is Debian 10 - codename Buster.

Roughly about every three months/quarter of a year, Debian will publish a
point release. This is genrally a round up of all the bug fixes and security 
fixes since the last point release. If you are keeping your machine up to 
date, then generally a point release will mean very little.

Generally, there will be a bump to the base-files version and an increment on
/etc/debian-version. So: Buster released with version 10.0 - with point 
releases, it's now up to 10.10.

> Release

Major release. Strictly, Debian has several releases in play at any one
time. 

There is a section called Experimental which has a few packages but is not
really a release - it's a staging area for experimental packages. Almost 
certainly for developers only or people on the very bleeding edge.

There is always a subset of Debian that is Unstable - codename Sid.

There's a release that is Testing - currently Bullseye - which will be 
Debian 11 when released.Under normal circumstances, packages would percolate
from Unstable to Testing, but at the moment Testing is frozen for release
when it's ready.

There's the stable branch: Currently Buster - Debian 10.10.

There's oldstable - Debian 9 - and oldoldstable - Debian 8 under support
as either LTS or ELTS.

> Update

Packages update fairly regularly - security and other fixes. Run apt update
apt upgrade and you'll get them.

> New distro release etc/similar.

Releases tend to spend two years in testing and then have about a five year
lifespan. If Bullseye gets released as Debian 11 on or about August 14th 2021
as planned - it will be the new stable, Buster will become oldstable, Stretch
will become oldoldstable.

The release after Bullseye will be called Bookworm. The release after that 
will be called Trixie. Debian codenames for releases are traditionally Toy
Story character names.

There's a whole lot more on this in wiki.debian.org / www.debian.org /
Wikipedia or the Debian Handbook https://debian.handbook.info (or available
as a Debian package debian-handbook).

> Geg

All best, 

Andy Cater

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#237815

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2021-07-27 19:20 +0200
Message-ID<CFyUh-7bj-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#237806
On Tue 27 Jul 2021 at 15:37:24 +0000, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 05:49:31PM +0300, Gunnar Gervin wrote:

[...]

> > Release
> 
> Major release. Strictly, Debian has several releases in play at any one
> time.

OK, if it relates to stable and oldstable.
 
> There is a section called Experimental which has a few packages but is not
> really a release - it's a staging area for experimental packages. Almost 
> certainly for developers only or people on the very bleeding edge.
> 
> There is always a subset of Debian that is Unstable - codename Sid.
> 
> There's a release that is Testing - currently Bullseye - which will be 
> Debian 11 when released.Under normal circumstances, packages would percolate
> from Unstable to Testing, but at the moment Testing is frozen for release
> when it's ready.

I wouldn't see experimental, unstable or testing as Releases.

> There's the stable branch: Currently Buster - Debian 10.10.

That's the present Release. To nitpick - I'd see buster as the one,
true Debian (for the next few weeks).

> There's oldstable - Debian 9 - and oldoldstable - Debian 8 under support
> as either LTS or ELTS.

This support is not engineered by Debian.

-- 
Brian.

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#237808

FromPeter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com>
Date2021-07-27 17:50 +0200
Message-ID<CFxvb-6b2-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#237804
Welcome.
I suggest you spend some time becoming familiar with Debian.
the Debian Wiki should be your primary resource.

with your favorite search tool search "debian wiki _____ " for each of 
the questions you listed.
read each page carefully and follow the links.

LMDE is Not Debian. Linux Mint does things very differently and they use 
"common" terms in an odd manner.

On 7/27/21 7:49 AM, Gunnar Gervin wrote:
> Please tell & explain which update types there are like
> Point release
> Release
> Update
> New distro release etc/similar.
> Geg

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