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Debian on mobile phone

Started byGunnar Gervin <dofeelok@gmail.com>
First post2021-07-25 10:10 +0200
Last post2021-07-27 08:50 +0200
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  Debian on mobile phone Gunnar Gervin <dofeelok@gmail.com> - 2021-07-25 10:10 +0200
    Re: Debian on mobile phone Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-07-25 10:40 +0200
      Re: Debian on mobile phone Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2021-07-25 10:50 +0200
    Re: Debian on mobile phone Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2021-07-25 14:10 +0200
    Re: Debian on mobile phone piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2021-07-26 14:00 +0200
      Re: Debian on mobile phone deloptes <emanoil.kotsev@deloptes.org> - 2021-07-26 21:30 +0200
        Re: Debian on mobile phone piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2021-07-26 22:20 +0200
          Re: Debian on mobile phone deloptes <emanoil.kotsev@deloptes.org> - 2021-07-27 08:50 +0200

#237697 — Debian on mobile phone

FromGunnar Gervin <dofeelok@gmail.com>
Date2021-07-25 10:10 +0200
SubjectDebian on mobile phone
Message-ID<CEHmV-7CI-5@gated-at.bofh.it>

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Is it possible to use debian on an android phone (Samsung A-40)?
geg

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#237698

FromDan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org>
Date2021-07-25 10:40 +0200
Message-ID<CEHPX-7Lt-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#237697
Gunnar Gervin wrote: 
> Is it possible to use debian on an android phone (Samsung A-40)?


In general:

Phones designed for Android don't run other operating systems
except variants of Android.

On the other hand, you can install a Debian system in your
existing Android device as an application or chroot environment,
which gets you both the phone functionality of continuing to run 
Android and much of the Debian functionality via a terminal or
even X11 applications.

https://wiki.debian.org/ChrootOnAndroid

-dsr-

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#237699

FromHans <hans.ullrich@loop.de>
Date2021-07-25 10:50 +0200
Message-ID<CEHZE-7OI-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
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Am Sonntag, 25. Juli 2021, 10:31:31 CEST schrieb Dan Ritter:
There is also an app called "Termux", which is debian based and run in 
Android. Many applications can be installed, but it is mostly console based.

However, for example, running nmap on a cell phone might be nice....

Best

Hans

> Gunnar Gervin wrote:
> > Is it possible to use debian on an android phone (Samsung A-40)?
> 
> In general:
> 
> Phones designed for Android don't run other operating systems
> except variants of Android.
> 
> On the other hand, you can install a Debian system in your
> existing Android device as an application or chroot environment,
> which gets you both the phone functionality of continuing to run
> Android and much of the Debian functionality via a terminal or
> even X11 applications.
> 
> https://wiki.debian.org/ChrootOnAndroid
> 
> -dsr-

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#237706

FromKenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com>
Date2021-07-25 14:10 +0200
Message-ID<CEL7b-1nE-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 4:03 AM Gunnar Gervin <dofeelok@gmail.com> wrote:

> Is it possible to use debian on an android phone (Samsung A-40)?
>

There's an Android app called Userland, which lets you run Debian.  I
haven't yet figured out how to connect it to my Downloads Directory.

Termux has also been mentioned.

Good luck!

Kenneth Parker

>

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#237761

Frompiorunz <piorunz@gmx.com>
Date2021-07-26 14:00 +0200
Message-ID<CF7r3-6Ef-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#237697
On 25/07/2021 09:03, Gunnar Gervin wrote:
> Is it possible to use debian on an android phone (Samsung A-40)?
> geg

Another solution is to use designated Linux smartphone, like Pinephone.
I use that one with Mobian system, which is pure Debian repos with some
tweaks to make GUI better.

neofetch
        _,met$$$$$gg.          mobian@mobian
     ,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P.       -------------
   ,g$$P"     """Y$$.".        OS: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) aarch64
  ,$$P'              `$$$.     Host: Pine64 PinePhone (1.2)
',$$P       ,ggs.     `$$b:   Kernel: 5.11-sunxi64
`d$$'     ,$P"'   .    $$$    Uptime: 6 days, 20 hours, 42 mins
  $$P      d$'     ,    $$P    Packages: 1360 (dpkg)
  $$:      $$.   -    ,d$$'    Shell: bash 5.1.4
  $$;      Y$b._   _,d$P'      Resolution: 720x1440
  Y$$.    `.`"Y$$$$P"'         Terminal: /dev/pts/0
  `$$b      "-.__              CPU: (4) @ 1.152GHz
   `Y$$                        Memory: 1368MiB / 2995MiB
    `Y$$.
      `$$b.
        `Y$$b.
           `"Y$b._
               `"""


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#237778

Fromdeloptes <emanoil.kotsev@deloptes.org>
Date2021-07-26 21:30 +0200
Message-ID<CFesx-2H2-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#237761
piorunz wrote:

> Another solution is to use designated Linux smartphone, like Pinephone.
> I use that one with Mobian system, which is pure Debian repos with some
> tweaks to make GUI better.

yes but the problem is always the ecosystem. 
I was looking into Pinephone few months ago.

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#237779

Frompiorunz <piorunz@gmx.com>
Date2021-07-26 22:20 +0200
Message-ID<CFfeW-3bB-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#237778
On 26/07/2021 20:19, deloptes wrote:
> piorunz wrote:
>
>> Another solution is to use designated Linux smartphone, like Pinephone.
>> I use that one with Mobian system, which is pure Debian repos with some
>> tweaks to make GUI better.
>
> yes but the problem is always the ecosystem.
> I was looking into Pinephone few months ago.


What you mean by problem with ecosystem?

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With kindest regards, piorunz.

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⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org
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#237789

Fromdeloptes <emanoil.kotsev@deloptes.org>
Date2021-07-27 08:50 +0200
Message-ID<CFp4B-TG-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#237779
piorunz wrote:

> What you mean by problem with ecosystem?

the apps

I use Sailfish OS since I gave up the N9. It has better ecosystem, but still
not compareable with Android/iOS, so I bought the license to be able to use
Android emulator and it works quite well, but still too much effort, bugs
and problems.

All other exotic phones are too expensive, have limitted ecosystem, small
community, bugs etc.

Of course it depends on the usecases, but for the price and capability of
the hardware it is expected to be more than a phone.

Anyway it depends on the use cases, but I think it should be mentioned what
are the limitations and first hand experiences.

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