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| Started by | "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> |
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| First post | 2021-07-13 09:10 +0200 |
| Last post | 2021-07-13 12:10 +0200 |
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Re: Offensive variable names "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-07-13 09:10 +0200
Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-07-13 09:30 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-07-13 11:00 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-07-13 11:30 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2021-07-13 11:30 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-07-13 12:00 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-07-13 14:10 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Brian Thompson <brian@hashvault.io> - 2021-07-13 14:10 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-07-13 15:10 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-07-13 16:20 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-07-13 17:30 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-07-13 18:00 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] rhkramer@gmail.com - 2021-07-13 21:40 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-07-13 22:00 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] rhkramer@gmail.com - 2021-07-13 23:50 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-07-14 06:10 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Jeremy Ardley <jeremy@ardley.org> - 2021-07-14 07:00 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-07-14 16:20 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-07-14 16:30 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Alexandre Garreau <galex-713@galex-713.eu> - 2021-07-13 21:40 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-07-13 22:30 +0200
[OT] Selling beer (was: Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names]) Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2021-07-14 00:30 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-07-14 01:20 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Alexandre Garreau <galex-713@galex-713.eu> - 2021-07-13 19:30 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-07-13 20:10 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-07-13 20:40 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-07-13 21:00 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-07-13 21:50 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2021-07-14 00:40 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-07-14 09:40 +0200
Re: Working for free "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-07-14 09:50 +0200
Re: Working for free Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-07-14 11:50 +0200
Re: Working for free "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-07-14 12:40 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-07-14 15:00 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-07-14 15:40 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-07-14 19:20 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Alexandre Garreau <galex-713@galex-713.eu> - 2021-07-13 21:20 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-07-14 01:20 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-07-14 08:50 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-07-14 14:10 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-07-14 15:10 +0200
Re: Working for free "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-07-13 12:10 +0200
Re: Working for free <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-07-13 12:10 +0200
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| From | Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> |
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| Date | 2021-07-14 15:10 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] |
| Message-ID | <CAMOd-8gy-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #237372 |
Hi. On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 08:00:20AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 07:45:08 +0100 > Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 19:17:37 -0400 > > Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 21:09:32 +0200 > > > Alexandre Garreau <galex-713@galex-713.eu> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, they’re not submitted to network effect, Debian is not a social > > > > network. Moreover, Debian is non-lucrative. Currently nobody can > > > > get *power* from it. > > > > > > I'm not sure what you mean by non-lucrative, but even though > > > there's no money involved, that does not mean that there's no power. > > > The power to decide what software to include in the distribution and > > > what to exclude is certainly power. Debian has an elaborate > > > constitution, with all kinds of rules, and the organization has > > > considerable power over the distribution. This is similar, in my mind, > > > to the power that an organization like Facebook has over its network. > > > > > > > I think in this context that 'power' means power over the real world, > > not just within a medium. It is unlikely that Debian can swing an > > election result. Debian has rules, but not over what people are > > permitted to discuss. > > I concur completely with your distinction, and I agree that it's an > important one. The original topic of the conversation, however, was > Github and friends, and I doubt that Github can swing an election > result, either. Github gathers personal information, Bing uses it to influence an election via search results manipulation. It's real easy if you have the same owner of both services. Reco
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| From | "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> |
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| Date | 2021-07-13 12:10 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Working for free |
| Message-ID | <CAnwu-bS-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #237289 |
Hi, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: > Times have changed. Now Microsoft *loves* free work... That's the problem with living after the future has already passed. Even my enemies aren't what they used to be. > done for them [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GitHub_Copilot] Ahhh. Some things don't change, though. Thanks for rescuing my postjudices. (Nevertheless, one doesn't need a worldwide git repo service to train an AI by examples of free software. It would be a funny experiment to throw a few hundred code snippets of a free software project into Visual Bleep and then to look how similar the result is to the original.) Have a nice day :) Thomas
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| From | <tomas@tuxteam.de> |
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| Date | 2021-07-13 12:10 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Working for free |
| Message-ID | <CAnwu-bS-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #237299 |
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On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 12:00:34PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, [...] > (Nevertheless, one doesn't need a worldwide git repo service to train > an AI by examples of free software. Read on GPT3. Even if you throw away the marketing-foo (of which there is copious abundance), it's... scary. It doesn't help that Microsoft has bought "exclusive" use of it [1] doesn't help (with my feelings on it, at least). > It would be a funny experiment to throw a few hundred code snippets of a > free software project into Visual Bleep and then to look how similar the > result is to the original.) We're talking a few more than a few hundred here ;-) cheers [1] https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/09/23/1008729/openai-is-giving-microsoft-exclusive-access-to-its-gpt-3-language-model/ - t > > Have a nice day :) > > Thomas >
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