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  MDs & Dentists ellanios82 <ellanios82@gmail.com> - 2021-07-14 12:50 +0200
    Re: MDs & Dentists Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-07-14 14:30 +0200
      Re: MDs & Dentists ellanios82 <ellanios82@gmail.com> - 2021-07-14 14:40 +0200
        Re: MDs & Dentists Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2021-07-14 15:00 +0200
      Re: MDs & Dentists Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-07-14 16:50 +0200
        Re: MDs & Dentists Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-07-14 22:50 +0200
          Re: MDs & Dentists Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-07-14 22:50 +0200
            Re: MDs & Dentists Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-07-14 23:00 +0200
              Re: MDs & Dentists Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-07-14 23:10 +0200
                Re: MDs & Dentists Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-07-15 00:40 +0200

#237369 — MDs & Dentists

  - have heard it opined that MDs & Dentists are seldom good investors, 
for the reason that they are used to usually being 'Right'


.....


  'the Amazing Polly - Did the Mask Just Slip?'


<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i88KO7oknV8&ab_channel=AmazingPolly>


.....

  rgds

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#237373

ellanios82 wrote: 
> 
>  - have heard it opined that MDs & Dentists are seldom good investors, for
> the reason that they are used to usually being 'Right'
> 

I'm not sure what this has to do with Debian, but this overlaps
with my professional interests.

As far as I can tell, the reason that MDs and dentists are
notable as bad investors is the same reason that they are
notable as bad pilots: in the middle to end of their careers
they have lots of money and no particular life experience other
than their professions. They look for something that is
appealing on the surface, put just enough time into it to
convince themselves that they are going to be quite good at it
because they are already successful, and then crash.

https://generalaviationnews.com/2017/03/29/the-doctor-killer/

Luckily, programming is a useful alternative hobby for medical
professionals. As long as you stay away from certain obscure
areas -- say, device drivers and financial software -- the
penalties for screwing up are much lower.

If you like your doctor or dentist, encourage them to learn
Debian and get into programming rather than daytrading or
piloting.

-dsr-

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#237374

On 7/14/21 3:23 PM, Dan Ritter wrote:
>   ~ same reason that they are notable as bad pilots


   hah! : maybe Comedians? : Canadian Comic, Jim Carey , of 'the Mask' 
fame,  is a Pilot , and pilots his own big Plane


<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEQomU6iFtw&ab_channel=imlebaneez>


....

  rgds

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#237378

On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 03:35:18PM +0300, ellanios82 wrote:
> On 7/14/21 3:23 PM, Dan Ritter wrote:
> >   ~ same reason that they are notable as bad pilots
> 
> 
>   hah! : maybe Comedians? : Canadian Comic, Jim Carey , of 'the Mask' fame, 
> is a Pilot , and pilots his own big Plane
> 
And comedian Ken Jeong is a medical doctor :-)

-- 
Roberto C. Sánchez

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#237384

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Hi,

On 2021-07-14 8:23 a.m., Dan Ritter wrote:
> ellanios82 wrote: 
>>
>>  - have heard it opined that MDs & Dentists are seldom good investors, for
>> the reason that they are used to usually being 'Right'
>>
> 
> I'm not sure what this has to do with Debian, but this overlaps
> with my professional interests.
> 
> As far as I can tell, the reason that MDs and dentists are
> notable as bad investors is the same reason that they are
> notable as bad pilots: in the middle to end of their careers
> they have lots of money and no particular life experience other
> than their professions. They look for something that is
> appealing on the surface, put just enough time into it to
> convince themselves that they are going to be quite good at it
> because they are already successful, and then crash.
> 
I can only agree with you, being MD myself. Well, I'd better say used to
be MD. But again, that's wrong because I still got the diploma but ain't
doing the usual job MD do.

> https://generalaviationnews.com/2017/03/29/the-doctor-killer/
> 
> Luckily, programming is a useful alternative hobby for medical
> professionals. As long as you stay away from certain obscure
> areas -- say, device drivers and financial software -- the
> penalties for screwing up are much lower.
> 
> If you like your doctor or dentist, encourage them to learn
> Debian and get into programming rather than daytrading or
> piloting.
We maybe don't remember but if we go back 30 years or so ago, most
people who graduated with a master in science, chemistry, physics or
such all had to learn programming. Why ? Because they used it as a tool
for doing research, making library of math function for analysis of data...
My father-in-law as part of his master in geophysics used some Fortran
to do waveform analysis, looking out for sign of specifics rock
formation. All this produced truck load of data and he had to analyze
it. In the early 80s, there was not many math package like we had today,
even less that connected directly to signal acquisition system.
So he built one with a DEC PDP-11.

Today with the ease of the new software, most people will only use
end-user software but in those days, you build your own.
He even developed a molecule display program for the Commodore 64...

> 
> -dsr-
> 

-- 
Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside
-Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development

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#237396

On Wednesday 14 July 2021 10:40:03 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 2021-07-14 8:23 a.m., Dan Ritter wrote:
> > ellanios82 wrote:
> >>  - have heard it opined that MDs & Dentists are seldom good
> >> investors, for the reason that they are used to usually being
> >> 'Right'
> >
> > I'm not sure what this has to do with Debian, but this overlaps
> > with my professional interests.
> >
> > As far as I can tell, the reason that MDs and dentists are
> > notable as bad investors is the same reason that they are
> > notable as bad pilots: in the middle to end of their careers
> > they have lots of money and no particular life experience other
> > than their professions. They look for something that is
> > appealing on the surface, put just enough time into it to
> > convince themselves that they are going to be quite good at it
> > because they are already successful, and then crash.
>
> I can only agree with you, being MD myself. Well, I'd better say used
> to be MD. But again, that's wrong because I still got the diploma but
> ain't doing the usual job MD do.
>
> > https://generalaviationnews.com/2017/03/29/the-doctor-killer/
> >
> > Luckily, programming is a useful alternative hobby for medical
> > professionals. As long as you stay away from certain obscure
> > areas -- say, device drivers and financial software -- the
> > penalties for screwing up are much lower.
> >
> > If you like your doctor or dentist, encourage them to learn
> > Debian and get into programming rather than daytrading or
> > piloting.
>
> We maybe don't remember but if we go back 30 years or so ago, most
> people who graduated with a master in science, chemistry, physics or
> such all had to learn programming. Why ? Because they used it as a
> tool for doing research, making library of math function for analysis
> of data... My father-in-law as part of his master in geophysics used
> some Fortran to do waveform analysis, looking out for sign of
> specifics rock formation. All this produced truck load of data and he
> had to analyze it. In the early 80s, there was not many math package
> like we had today, even less that connected directly to signal
> acquisition system. So he built one with a DEC PDP-11.

Off topic reply for sure.

And that was his first mistake. As a former TV Chief Engineer I had to 
deal with all the computerized systems a tv station can acquire, and the 
PDP-11/23 CBS sold us for satellite dish control was by far the least 
dependable I ever had to deal with. The Digital Field Engineers changed 
everything in that machine but the frame rail with the serial number was 
on, without any effect on the 4 or 5 times a day silent crash. So we 
aired a crap load of dog food commercials when we were supposed to be 
selling breakfast foods or diapers, and we don't get paid for those 
mistakes. Eventually I forced CBS to replace it with an IBM based system 
which ran from power outage to power outage. Affiliate system wide, on 
CBS's dime.

> Today with the ease of the new software, most people will only use
> end-user software but in those days, you build your own.
> He even developed a molecule display program for the Commodore 64...

We often wrote our own software, but I almost always used a trs-80 color 
computer, much easier to program in os9 or basic09. But as a learning 
experiment, the first I wrote was on an 1802 based board but I was the 
assembler, looking up the hex codes in the rca programmers manual. All 
the board had was a hex monitor. The finished program then lived in the 
KRCR control room in Redding CA for 14 years that I know of, in use many 
times a day. That's a couple eons in the average broadcast facility.

> > -dsr-


Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#237397

On Wed 14 Jul 2021 at 16:40:43 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:

[...]
 
> Off topic reply for sure.

[Reply snipped]

Dead sure it is. Nothing unusual. Are you trying to gat many in before
you pop your clogs? :)

-- 
Brian.

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#237398

On Wednesday 14 July 2021 16:49:34 Brian wrote:

> On Wed 14 Jul 2021 at 16:40:43 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > Off topic reply for sure.
>
> [Reply snipped]
>
> Dead sure it is. Nothing unusual. Are you trying to gat many in before
> you pop your clogs? :)

Of coarse Brian, would you have it any different? ;-)

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#237399

On Wed 14 Jul 2021 at 16:54:06 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:

> On Wednesday 14 July 2021 16:49:34 Brian wrote:
> 
> > On Wed 14 Jul 2021 at 16:40:43 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > Off topic reply for sure.
> >
> > [Reply snipped]
> >
> > Dead sure it is. Nothing unusual. Are you trying to gat many in before
> > you pop your clogs? :)
> 
> Of coarse Brian, would you have it any different? ;-)

Probably not, Gene. But I have a high tolerence level. :)

-- 
Brian. 

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#237404

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On 2021-07-14 5:08 p.m., Brian wrote:
> On Wed 14 Jul 2021 at 16:54:06 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> 
>> On Wednesday 14 July 2021 16:49:34 Brian wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed 14 Jul 2021 at 16:40:43 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> Off topic reply for sure.
>>>
>>> [Reply snipped]
>>>
>>> Dead sure it is. Nothing unusual. Are you trying to gat many in before
>>> you pop your clogs? :)
>>
>> Of coarse Brian, would you have it any different? ;-)
> 
> Probably not, Gene. But I have a high tolerence level. :)
> 
We all think that "we have everything high"...

-- 
Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside
-Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development

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