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  Debian WSL Robbi Nespu <robbinespu@gmail.com> - 2021-01-19 06:00 +0100
    Re: Debian WSL "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-01-19 11:20 +0100
      Re: Debian WSL Robbi Nespu <robbinespu@gmail.com> - 2021-01-20 02:50 +0100

#230822 — Debian WSL

Hello,

I installed Debian WSL on my windows.. here some details

~$ uname -a
Linux PC 4.4.0-18362-Microsoft #1049-Microsoft Thu Aug 14 12:01:00 PST 
2020 x86_64 GNU/Linux

~$ cat /etc/debian_version
10.5

But sadly there is no podman package on Buster repos, it also mentioned 
on https://podman.io/getting-started/installation that podman only 
available on Debian Testing/Bullseye or Unstable/Sid

I know upgrading normal installed Debian is easy. But ... Will it break 
current WSL when windows store push update and I need to re-setup again too?

Or it better just keep using the current branch provided only (using 
podman from Kubic project)?

If you have experience similar like me. Could you give some feedback?

Thanks in advance.

-- 
Robbi Nespu

PGP fingerprint : D311 B5FF EEE6 0BE8 9C91 FA9E 0C81 FA30 3B3A 80BA
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#230830

On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 12:52:29PM +0800, Robbi Nespu wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I installed Debian WSL on my windows.. here some details
> 
> ~$ uname -a
> Linux PC 4.4.0-18362-Microsoft #1049-Microsoft Thu Aug 14 12:01:00 PST 2020
> x86_64 GNU/Linux
> 
> ~$ cat /etc/debian_version
> 10.5
> 
> But sadly there is no podman package on Buster repos, it also mentioned on
> https://podman.io/getting-started/installation that podman only available on
> Debian Testing/Bullseye or Unstable/Sid
> 
First things first: use apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade to bring yourself up to Debian 10.7 [10.8 is out at the end of the month :) ]

You may be able to just change the sources list and update to bullseye. That's just started the freeze process - but there will be some significant 
churn and changes before release later this year.

> I know upgrading normal installed Debian is easy. But ... Will it break
> current WSL when windows store push update and I need to re-setup again too?
> 

Updating should be exactly the same: the critical thing is that the kernel remains the one provided by Microsoft, I think, and doesn't update from Debian.


> Or it better just keep using the current branch provided only (using podman
> from Kubic project)?
> 

Why podman particularly? Is this because you must be compatible with Red Hat
somewhere? 

Essentially, you're running containers on virtualisation on virtualisation. [Podman -> WSL2 -> HyperV shim -> Windows] so performance may
not be great. Fine for a trial but probably not ideal for heavier use. Find a 
Linux box somewhere, maybe.

Hope this helps, all the very best

Andy C.

> If you have experience similar like me. Could you give some feedback?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> -- 
> Robbi Nespu
> 
> PGP fingerprint : D311 B5FF EEE6 0BE8 9C91 FA9E 0C81 FA30 3B3A 80BA
> PGP public key  : https://keybase.io/robbinespu/pgp_keys.asc
> 

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#230868

On 19/1/2021 6:18 pm, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote
> Updating should be exactly the same: the critical thing is that the kernel remains the one provided by Microsoft, I think, and doesn't update from Debian.
Thank for the information. I never know kernel on WSL are provided by 
microsoft.

> Why podman particularly? Is this because you must be compatible with Red Hat
> somewhere?
Podman just like docker but no need to give root access to daemon 
(docker) and podman are daemonless. Yes, you are right, I compatible and 
familiar with fedora way. I have bad experience with docker so, I try to 
avoid using it. So I prefer podman.

> Essentially, you're running containers on virtualisation on virtualisation. [Podman -> WSL2 -> HyperV shim -> Windows] so performance may
> not be great. Fine for a trial but probably not ideal for heavier use. Find a
> Linux box somewhere, maybe.
I use for trial only. Seem (already upgrade to bulleye and install 
podman) much better do it like this, in term of battery usage. I tried 
with linux on vm before but it use lot of battery in background. So I'm 
okey with this setup.

> Hope this helps, all the very best
> 
> Andy C.

Thank you Andy

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Robbi Nespu

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