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Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch

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  Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-04 12:30 +0100
    Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/  Stretch Georgi Naplatanov <gosho@oles.biz> - 2021-01-04 13:10 +0100
      Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/  Stretch Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-04 13:40 +0100
      Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/  Stretch Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-05 02:40 +0100
        Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-01-05 09:20 +0100
          Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/  Stretch Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-05 11:20 +0100
            Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-01-05 18:00 +0100
              Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/  Stretch Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-06 01:40 +0100
                Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-01-06 09:30 +0100
                  Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/  Stretch Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-06 11:10 +0100
                    Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-01-06 21:30 +0100
                      Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/  Stretch Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-07 01:40 +0100
                        Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-01-07 02:10 +0100
                          Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/  Stretch Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-01-07 08:40 +0100
                            Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-01-07 09:50 +0100
                              Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/  Stretch <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-01-07 16:00 +0100
                            Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/  Stretch Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-01-07 14:00 +0100
                          Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/  Stretch Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-07 10:40 +0100
                            Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-01-07 11:00 +0100
                            Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/  Stretch Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-01-07 13:00 +0100
                              Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-01-07 14:30 +0100
                                Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/  Stretch Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-01-07 15:50 +0100
                              Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/  Stretch Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-08 00:40 +0100
                                Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-01-08 02:00 +0100
                                  Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/  Stretch Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-08 02:50 +0100
                                Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/  Stretch Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-01-08 09:00 +0100
    Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/  Stretch Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-01-04 16:20 +0100
      Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-01-04 18:30 +0100
    Follow up, was: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam /  Thinkpad E130/ Stretch Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-18 15:10 +0100
      Re: Follow up, was: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam /  Thinkpad E130/ Stretch Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-01-18 22:00 +0100
        Re: Follow up, was: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-01-18 23:30 +0100

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#230415

Andrei POPESCU wrote:

> Typically a Debian release should run with the kernel from the previous
> release (makes dist-upgrade easier), specific exceptions are mentioned
> in the Release Notes.
> 
> If possible you should stick with kernels from the LTS project (as far
> as I know stretch is still supported).
> 
> For testing purposes you can find all Debian packages ever uploaded to
> the archive at https://snapshot.debian.org.

but Otavio is looking for older kernel and I looked for such few weeks ago
and couldn't find such.

I would try jessie
http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux/kernel-image-3.16.0-6-amd64-di_3.16.56-1+deb8u1_amd64.udeb

if this is what you mean that it should work with older release

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#230420 — Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch

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On Jo, 07 ian 21, 14:22:30, deloptes wrote:
> Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> 
> > Typically a Debian release should run with the kernel from the previous
> > release (makes dist-upgrade easier), specific exceptions are mentioned
> > in the Release Notes.
> > 
> > If possible you should stick with kernels from the LTS project (as far
> > as I know stretch is still supported).
> > 
> > For testing purposes you can find all Debian packages ever uploaded to
> > the archive at https://snapshot.debian.org.
> 
> but Otavio is looking for older kernel and I looked for such few weeks ago
> and couldn't find such.

http://snapshot.debian.org/package/linux/

(unless you know the exact package name search by source package name)
 
> I would try jessie
> http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux/kernel-image-3.16.0-6-amd64-di_3.16.56-1+deb8u1_amd64.udeb
> 
> if this is what you mean that it should work with older release

That is a special kernel for the Debian Installed (note the -di in the 
name)

Kind regards,
Andrei
-- 
http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

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#230437 — Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch

On 07/01/2021 11:49, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Jo, 07 ian 21, 09:37:10, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>> On 07/01/2021 01:06, deloptes wrote:
>>> Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>>
>>>> In this case, what's the oldest kernel I can install on Stretch?
>>> you mean the most recent?
>>
>> No, I mean the opposite. The oldest that can be installed on Stretch Because
>> I didn't have a problem with older kernels. I must have uninstalled some of
>> the oldest kernel I had. At the moment I have:
>>
>>
>> $ dpkg -l|grep linux-image
>> ii  linux-image-4.19.0-0.bpo.9-amd64      4.19.118-2+deb10u1~bpo9+1
>> amd64        Linux 4.19 for 64-bit PCs (signed)
>> ii  linux-image-4.9.0-11-amd64            4.9.189-3+deb9u2       amd64
>> Linux 4.9 for 64-bit PCs
>> ii  linux-image-4.9.0-12-amd64            4.9.210-1+deb9u1       amd64
>> Linux 4.9 for 64-bit PCs
>> ii  linux-image-4.9.0-14-amd64            4.9.246-2       amd64        Linux
>> 4.9 for 64-bit PCs
>> ii  linux-image-amd64                     4.19+105+deb10u4~bpo9+1
>> amd64        Linux for 64-bit PCs (meta-package)
> 
> Typically a Debian release should run with the kernel from the previous
> release (makes dist-upgrade easier), specific exceptions are mentioned
> in the Release Notes.
> 
> If possible you should stick with kernels from the LTS project (as far
> as I know stretch is still supported).
> 
> For testing purposes you can find all Debian packages ever uploaded to
> the archive at https://snapshot.debian.org.
> 

Thanks. So, this is the list of all linux-image-amd64:
https://snapshot.debian.org/binary/linux-image-amd64/

Which one should I install? Which was the first kernel that came with 
Stretch?

--
Ottavio Caruso

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#230440

Ottavio Caruso wrote:

> Thanks. So, this is the list of all linux-image-amd64:
> https://snapshot.debian.org/binary/linux-image-amd64/
> 
> Which one should I install? Which was the first kernel that came with
> Stretch?

Otavio, come on, does google not work on your PC?
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianStretch says 4.9 and 4.10, but even without
this you can find the images based on the debian version.

4.9+80+deb9u12 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u12)
4.9+80+deb9u11 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u11)
4.9+80+deb9u10 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u10)
4.9+80+deb9u9 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u9)
4.9+80+deb9u8 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u8)
4.9+80+deb9u7 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u7)
4.9+80+deb9u6 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u6)
4.9+80+deb9u5 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u5)
4.9+80+deb9u4 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u4)
4.9+80+deb9u3 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u3)
4.9+80+deb9u2 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u2)
4.9+80+deb9u1 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u1)

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#230442 — Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch

On 08/01/2021 00:51, deloptes wrote:
> Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> 
>> Thanks. So, this is the list of all linux-image-amd64:
>> https://snapshot.debian.org/binary/linux-image-amd64/
>>
>> Which one should I install? Which was the first kernel that came with
>> Stretch?
> 
> Otavio, come on, does google not work on your PC?
> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianStretch says 4.9 and 4.10, but even without
> this you can find the images based on the debian version.
> 
> 4.9+80+deb9u12 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u12)
> 4.9+80+deb9u11 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u11)
> 4.9+80+deb9u10 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u10)
> 4.9+80+deb9u9 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u9)
> 4.9+80+deb9u8 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u8)
> 4.9+80+deb9u7 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u7)
> 4.9+80+deb9u6 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u6)
> 4.9+80+deb9u5 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u5)
> 4.9+80+deb9u4 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u4)
> 4.9+80+deb9u3 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u3)
> 4.9+80+deb9u2 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u2)
> 4.9+80+deb9u1 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u1)

Ah, I get it now. deb9 = Stretch.

I'll try 4.9+80+deb9u1 then and we'll take it from there.


-- 
Ottavio Caruso

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#230444 — Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch

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On Jo, 07 ian 21, 23:35:23, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> 
> Thanks. So, this is the list of all linux-image-amd64:
> https://snapshot.debian.org/binary/linux-image-amd64/
 
You might want to read the description for 'linux-image-amd64' first ;)

> Which one should I install? Which was the first kernel that came with
> Stretch?
 
The exact version that was released with stretch might be difficult to 
find out.

A good approximation would be to search for the first Debian Security 
Advisory (DSA) for linux in stretch, it will mention the next higher 
version.

Kind regards,
Andrei
-- 
http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

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#230328 — Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch

Ottavio Caruso wrote: 
> https://paste.debian.net/plainh/1c22d1aa

Your kernel believes you have two video cameras, one named
Trust. They have different USB ids.

They both get recognized repeatedly in your snippet, but because
there is not enough context, I can't tell whether that means

- you put the laptop to sleep/wake.

- the cameras were unplugged/replugged.

- the kernel had an oops.

If you absolutely need a working camera as soon as possible, buy
a new USB camera. 

-dsr-

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#230333

Dan Ritter wrote:

> If you absolutely need a working camera as soon as possible, buy
> a new USB camera.

but the subject says it is integrated. I suggest just install a new kernel
(may be from back ports if available and you want to stay on stretch)
you can compile new kernel or simply upgrade to buster.

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#230791 — Follow up, was: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch

On 04/01/2021 11:00, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> $ uname -a
> Linux e130 4.9.0-14-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.246-2 (2020-12-17) x86_64 
> GNU/Linux
> 
> $ cat /etc/debian_version
> 9.13
> 
> $ inxi -M
> Machine:
>    Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 33588QG v: ThinkPad Edge E130
> 
> I have had a problem with having the integrated webcam to be recognized 
> by various applications (cheese, Microsoft Teams [yes...], Zoom, etc). 
> It does work sometimes and it doesn't at other times.
> 

I have a usb flash drive with an old (2 years or so) Debian Testing 
image (Buster, which in the meantime is stable) running kernel 4.9.0-14 
(same as the one I'm currently running now, but probably built on top of 
different libraries). I installed cheese and the webcam was recognized 
instantly. I played around with it for a bit and even shook the laptop, 
just to see if there was a problem with some internal cable and the 
camera was still working.

I don't know what to make of it. This rules out a possible hardware 
problem; but also a problem with that kernel series?


-- 
Ottavio Caruso

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#230811 — Re: Follow up, was: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch

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On Lu, 18 ian 21, 14:09:17, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> 
> I have a usb flash drive with an old (2 years or so) Debian Testing image
> (Buster, which in the meantime is stable) running kernel 4.9.0-14 (same as
> the one I'm currently running now, but probably built on top of different
> libraries). I installed cheese and the webcam was recognized instantly. I
> played around with it for a bit and even shook the laptop, just to see if
> there was a problem with some internal cable and the camera was still
> working.
> 
> I don't know what to make of it. This rules out a possible hardware problem;
> but also a problem with that kernel series?

Try comparing kernel messages (dmesg).

Kind regards,
Andrei
-- 
http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

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#230813 — Re: Follow up, was: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch

Andrei POPESCU wrote:

> Try comparing kernel messages (dmesg).

Or install the old kernel image into the buster and try to eliminate or
confirm it depends on library or on kernel driver.
>From what I read it is kernel driver issue and it was fixed, then broken
then fixed, then broken etc.

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