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Teamviewer and Wyland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

Started bydeloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
First post2021-01-07 14:40 +0100
Last post2021-01-07 16:50 +0100
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  Teamviewer and Wyland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-01-07 14:40 +0100
    Re: Teamviewer and Wyland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2021-01-07 14:40 +0100
      Re: Teamviewer and Wyland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-01-07 15:00 +0100
        Re: Teamviewer and Wyland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop Georgi Naplatanov <gosho@oles.biz> - 2021-01-07 16:10 +0100
        Re: Teamviewer and Wyland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop Dominik George <natureshadow@debian.org> - 2021-01-07 16:20 +0100
          Re: Teamviewer and Wyland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop Yvan Masson <yvan@masson-informatique.fr> - 2021-01-09 14:10 +0100
            Re: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop [SOLVED] deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-01-09 23:40 +0100
    Re: Teamviewer and Wyland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2021-01-07 16:20 +0100
      Re: Teamviewer and Wyland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2021-01-07 16:30 +0100
        Re: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-01-07 17:30 +0100
          Re: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2021-01-07 17:50 +0100
            Re: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-01-07 18:20 +0100
              Re: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-01-07 18:30 +0100
                Re: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2021-01-07 19:00 +0100
              Re: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop rhkramer@gmail.com - 2021-01-07 20:00 +0100
                Re: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-01-07 21:20 +0100
      Re: Teamviewer and Wyland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2021-01-07 16:40 +0100
      Re: Teamviewer and Wyland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop Dominik George <nik@naturalnet.de> - 2021-01-07 16:50 +0100

#230417 — Teamviewer and Wyland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

Fromdeloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-07 14:40 +0100
SubjectTeamviewer and Wyland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop
Message-ID<BuDGf-74L-77@gated-at.bofh.it>
Hi,

after upgrading one machine from Stretch to Buster Teamviewer told me that
it does not support remote control with Wyland.

What should I use to get remote control (occasionally) in this
configuration?

thank in advance

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#230418

FromGreg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org>
Date2021-01-07 14:40 +0100
Message-ID<BuDGf-74L-89@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#230417
On Thu, Jan 07, 2021 at 02:25:03PM +0100, deloptes wrote:
> after upgrading one machine from Stretch to Buster Teamviewer told me that
> it does not support remote control with Wyland.

Either run GNOME in an X11 session, or run someting other than GNOME.

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#230419

Fromdeloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-07 15:00 +0100
Message-ID<BuDZw-7bd-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#230418
Greg Wooledge wrote:

> Either run GNOME in an X11 session, or run someting other than GNOME.

Thank you - how do I let Gnome run in X11 session? I am afraid the user
would stick to Gnome.

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#230422

FromGeorgi Naplatanov <gosho@oles.biz>
Date2021-01-07 16:10 +0100
Message-ID<BuF5g-83m-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#230419
On 1/7/21 3:41 PM, deloptes wrote:
> Greg Wooledge wrote:
> 
>> Either run GNOME in an X11 session, or run someting other than GNOME.
> 
> Thank you - how do I let Gnome run in X11 session? I am afraid the user
> would stick to Gnome. 

Hey,

I'm not a Gnome user but I think that you have to execute something like
this:

# apt install xorg

HTH

Kind regards
Georgi

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#230423

FromDominik George <natureshadow@debian.org>
Date2021-01-07 16:20 +0100
Message-ID<BuFeV-86z-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#230419
Hi,

>Thank you - how do I let Gnome run in X11 session? I am afraid the user
>would stick to Gnome. 
>

Set UseWayland=false in /etc/gdm3/*.conf

-nik

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#230475

FromYvan Masson <yvan@masson-informatique.fr>
Date2021-01-09 14:10 +0100
Message-ID<Bvmag-859-47@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#230423
Le 07/01/2021 à 16:10, Dominik George a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
>> Thank you - how do I let Gnome run in X11 session? I am afraid the user
>> would stick to Gnome.
>>
> 
> Set UseWayland=false in /etc/gdm3/*.conf
> 
> -nik
> 
Or, if you did a "standard" install, a more friendly solution if you 
don't like using the terminal:
- logout
- before login, click on the toothed wheel and choose Gnome on Xorg or 
similar (I don't recall exactly)
- log back
You will then be using Gnome without Wayland.

Regards,
Yvan

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#230501 — Re: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop [SOLVED]

Fromdeloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-09 23:40 +0100
SubjectRe: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop [SOLVED]
Message-ID<Bvv3S-50f-39@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#230475
Yvan Masson wrote:

> Or, if you did a "standard" install, a more friendly solution if you
> don't like using the terminal:
> - logout
> - before login, click on the toothed wheel and choose Gnome on Xorg or
> similar (I don't recall exactly)
> - log back
> You will then be using Gnome without Wayland.

Thank you. I mark it as solved, because the hint to edit /etc/gdm3/*.conf
helped.
User can not decide if with or without login (autologin), but changing one
of the conf files brings back X11 and all looks good

regards

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#230424

FromKenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-07 16:20 +0100
Message-ID<BuFeV-86z-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#230417

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On Thu, Jan 7, 2021, 8:30 AM deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> after upgrading one machine from Stretch to Buster Teamviewer told me that
> it does not support remote control with Wyland.
>

Excuse me, but I am drawing a Blank, when searching for information on a
Package called "Wyland".   Are you, by any chance referring to Wayland, the
alternative to Xorg?

Thanks!

Kenneth Parker

>

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#230425

FromGreg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org>
Date2021-01-07 16:30 +0100
Message-ID<BuFoB-89H-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#230424
On Thu, Jan 07, 2021 at 10:15:11AM -0500, Kenneth Parker wrote:
> Excuse me, but I am drawing a Blank, when searching for information on a
> Package called "Wyland".   Are you, by any chance referring to Wayland, the
> alternative to Xorg?

Duh.  Don't be a prick over typos.

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#230428 — Re: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

Fromdeloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-07 17:30 +0100
SubjectRe: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop
Message-ID<BuGkF-h8-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#230425
Greg Wooledge wrote:

> Duh.  Don't be a prick over typos.

Sorry guys, I don't know the beast and don't use it. I just watched a
presentation about it once.
I did not cross check how it is exactly spelled. So it was more of an
ignorance than a typo.

And thank you for the hints

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#230429 — Re: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

FromKenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-07 17:50 +0100
SubjectRe: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop
Message-ID<BuGE2-ok-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2021, 11:20 AM deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> wrote:

> Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
> > Duh.  Don't be a prick over typos.
>
> Sorry guys, I don't know the beast and don't use it. I just watched a
> presentation about it once.
> I did not cross check how it is exactly spelled. So it was more of an
> ignorance than a typo.
>

Thank you!  I spent, quite some time trying to hunt down a Package called
"Wyland", even getting into a half-filled Rabbit Hole in the Fedora World
(that just vanished).

I am sure there will be others, ignorant about Graphical Packages on Linux.

Kenneth Parker

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#230431 — Re: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

FromDavid Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Date2021-01-07 18:20 +0100
SubjectRe: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop
Message-ID<BuH73-Ne-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#230429
On Thu 07 Jan 2021 at 11:40:37 (-0500), Kenneth Parker wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021, 11:20 AM deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Greg Wooledge wrote:
> >
> > > Duh.  Don't be a prick over typos.
> >
> > Sorry guys, I don't know the beast and don't use it. I just watched a
> > presentation about it once.
> > I did not cross check how it is exactly spelled. So it was more of an
> > ignorance than a typo.
> >
> 
> Thank you!  I spent, quite some time trying to hunt down a Package called
> "Wyland", even getting into a half-filled Rabbit Hole in the Fedora World
> (that just vanished).
> 
> I am sure there will be others, ignorant about Graphical Packages on Linux.

I'm unconvinced with the Noob explanation. My search engine corrects
wyland→wayland itself, whether I prefix the search with teamviewer,
gnome, or x11. Searching for 'buster wyland' suggests 'buster wiand',
but the first hit is still 'Wayland - Debian Wiki', and there are
several wayland hits before any pointing to the artist Wyland.

Cheers,
David.

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#230432 — Re: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

Fromdeloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-07 18:30 +0100
SubjectRe: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop
Message-ID<BuHgJ-QB-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#230431
David Wright wrote:

> I'm unconvinced with the Noob explanation. My search engine corrects
> wyland→wayland itself, whether I prefix the search with teamviewer,
> gnome, or x11. Searching for 'buster wyland' suggests 'buster wiand',
> but the first hit is still 'Wayland - Debian Wiki', and there are
> several wayland hits before any pointing to the artist Wyland.

Kenneth Parker is training the search engine (chuckle). My subjective
observation says you wait for one day and then it works much better. I
would be not surprised if Google were consolidating the results over
night - or it just takes about 24h to finish the processing.

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#230433 — Re: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

FromKenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-07 19:00 +0100
SubjectRe: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop
Message-ID<BuHJM-10z-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2021, 12:24 PM deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> wrote:

> David Wright wrote:
>
> > I'm unconvinced with the Noob explanation. My search engine corrects
> > wyland→wayland itself, whether I prefix the search with teamviewer,
> > gnome, or x11. Searching for 'buster wyland' suggests 'buster wiand',
> > but the first hit is still 'Wayland - Debian Wiki', and there are
> > several wayland hits before any pointing to the artist Wyland.
>
> Kenneth Parker is training the search engine (chuckle). My subjective
> observation says you wait for one day and then it works much better. I
> would be not surprised if Google were consolidating the results over
> night - or it just takes about 24h to finish the processing.
>

+1

The closest thing to, what David said, is that Google asked me if I meant
"wayland", but it didn't autocorrect.

Thanks!

Kenneth Parker

>

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#230434 — Re: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

Fromrhkramer@gmail.com
Date2021-01-07 20:00 +0100
SubjectRe: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop
Message-ID<BuIFQ-L2-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#230431
On Thursday, January 07, 2021 12:16:45 PM David Wright wrote:

> I'm unconvinced with the Noob explanation. My search engine corrects
> wyland→wayland itself, whether I prefix the search with teamviewer,
> gnome, or x11. Searching for 'buster wyland' suggests 'buster wiand',
> but the first hit is still 'Wayland - Debian Wiki', and there are
> several wayland hits before any pointing to the artist Wyland.

What's that meme: "assume good intentions"

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#230435 — Re: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

FromDavid Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Date2021-01-07 21:20 +0100
SubjectRe: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop
Message-ID<BuJVf-1np-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#230434
On Thu 07 Jan 2021 at 13:50:31 (-0500), rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, January 07, 2021 12:16:45 PM David Wright wrote:
> 
> > I'm unconvinced with the Noob explanation. My search engine corrects
> > wyland→wayland itself, whether I prefix the search with teamviewer,
> > gnome, or x11. Searching for 'buster wyland' suggests 'buster wiand',
> > but the first hit is still 'Wayland - Debian Wiki', and there are
> > several wayland hits before any pointing to the artist Wyland.
> 
> What's that meme: "assume good intentions"

How could I assume otherwise about someone who plays Mahler's 3rd
on their computer. :)

But as deloptes said, coincidentally, waiting a day in order to see
whether somebody else has better understood the question is often
worthwhile. If nobody replies, jump in by all means.

Cheers,
David.

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#230426

FromKenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-07 16:40 +0100
Message-ID<BuFyh-8cO-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2021, 10:18 AM Dominik George <nik@naturalnet.de> wrote:

> >Excuse me, but I am drawing a Blank, when searching for information on a
> >Package called "Wyland".   Are you, by any chance referring to Wayland,
> the
> >alternative to Xorg?
>
> Congratulations.
>
> Not even I am that obsessed with pointing out the mistakes of others.
>

Please!    I am a Noob, when it comes to X11 vs Wayland.  And I have,
*multiple* times been introduced to new Packages, via the Debian Users
email list.

I was, fully expecting to find a reference to something, more related to
Remote Control than Graphics, actually *called* Wyland.

I am learning, just like others on this List.

Kenneth Parker

>

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#230427

FromDominik George <nik@naturalnet.de>
Date2021-01-07 16:50 +0100
Message-ID<BuFyh-8cO-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#230424
>Excuse me, but I am drawing a Blank, when searching for information on a
>Package called "Wyland".   Are you, by any chance referring to Wayland, the
>alternative to Xorg?

Congratulations.

Not even I am that obsessed with pointing out the mistakes of others.

-nik

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