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Problems with kept back packages

Started byshadowmaker@logorroici.org
First post2021-01-03 16:00 +0100
Last post2021-01-03 19:30 +0100
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  Problems with kept back packages shadowmaker@logorroici.org - 2021-01-03 16:00 +0100
    Re: Problems with kept back packages David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-01-03 16:50 +0100
      Re: Problems with kept back packages Cindy Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2021-01-03 18:00 +0100
        Re: Problems with kept back packages David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-01-03 18:50 +0100
      Re: Problems with kept back packages shadowmaker@logorroici.org - 2021-01-03 19:30 +0100

#230288 — Problems with kept back packages

Fromshadowmaker@logorroici.org
Date2021-01-03 16:00 +0100
SubjectProblems with kept back packages
Message-ID<Btd1o-2m7-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
I have no idea how to solve this problem: I installed a Debian 10 in my 
computer. The GPU was only supported with linux 5.8 so I updated to 
bullseye. I don't know how to configure correctly the sources.list file 
so I just changed all the 'buster' for 'bullseye' and it upgraded well 
(but the Debian-security failed I don't know why. It would be 
interesting if someone helps me with that). I rebooted to use the last 
kernel an the GPU controllers worked this time. But, the serverx (I 
installed GNOME) didn't work. I tried to upgrade and... More than 500 
packages were kept back... I am using bullseye so I don't think I have a 
deprecated version. But  don't know how to configure the sources... 
Could someone send me a configuration for the last bullseye system?
Thanks in advance.
Happy hacking!

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#230290

FromDavid Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Date2021-01-03 16:50 +0100
Message-ID<BtdNM-2RZ-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#230288
On Sun 03 Jan 2021 at 14:56:26 (+0000), shadowmaker@logorroici.org wrote:
> I have no idea how to solve this problem: I installed a Debian 10 in
> my computer.

Recently? If so, you might be best off by reinstalling 10 from scratch.

> The GPU was only supported with linux 5.8 so I updated to
> bullseye.

You might be better off installing 5.8 from buster-backports.

> I don't know how to configure correctly the sources.list
> file so I just changed all the 'buster' for 'bullseye' and it upgraded
> well (but the Debian-security failed I don't know why. It would be
> interesting if someone helps me with that).

Because there is no security support for testing.

> I rebooted to use the last
> kernel an the GPU controllers worked this time. But, the serverx (I
> installed GNOME) didn't work. I tried to upgrade and... More than 500
> packages were kept back... I am using bullseye so I don't think I have
> a deprecated version. But  don't know how to configure the sources...
> Could someone send me a configuration for the last bullseye system?

It doesn't sound as if you're familiar enough with Debian to be able
to comfortably run a testing system.

> Thanks in advance.
> Happy hacking!

Cheers,
David.

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#230294

FromCindy Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-03 18:00 +0100
Message-ID<BteTw-3vX-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#230290
On 1/3/21, David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sun 03 Jan 2021 at 14:56:26 (+0000), shadowmaker@logorroici.org wrote:
>> I have no idea how to solve this problem: I installed a Debian 10 in
>> my computer.
>
>
>> I don't know how to configure correctly the sources.list
>> file so I just changed all the 'buster' for 'bullseye' and it upgraded
>> well (but the Debian-security failed I don't know why. It would be
>> interesting if someone helps me with that).
>
> Because there is no security support for testing.
>

My apologies in advance if I've misinterpreted the question and thus
am about to waste space. :)

When I bumped from Buster to Bullseye, it took "a few seconds" of
digging to figure out why the previous security repository
declarations failed. I now have this in my user CHOICE of a
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.sources file:

Types: deb deb-src
URIs: http://security.debian.org/debian-security
Suites: bullseye-security
Components: main contrib non-free

It has been so long since I used the /etc/apt/sources.list file method
that it just now took "a few more seconds" to fall back into it, After
multiple stabs at it, this FINALLY worked correctly *for me*:

deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main
contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security
main contrib non-free

That's all based on going back to packages.debian.org to refresh my
brain that I had stable, testing, and unstable all assigned to the
proper project names (Buster, Bullseye, and Sid, respectively).

Cindy :)
-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with birdseed *

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#230295

FromDavid Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Date2021-01-03 18:50 +0100
Message-ID<BtfFU-434-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#230294
On Sun 03 Jan 2021 at 11:56:49 (-0500), Cindy Sue Causey wrote:
> On 1/3/21, David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Sun 03 Jan 2021 at 14:56:26 (+0000), shadowmaker@logorroici.org wrote:
> >> I have no idea how to solve this problem: I installed a Debian 10 in
> >> my computer.
> >
> >> I don't know how to configure correctly the sources.list
> >> file so I just changed all the 'buster' for 'bullseye' and it upgraded
> >> well (but the Debian-security failed I don't know why. It would be
> >> interesting if someone helps me with that).
> >
> > Because there is no security support for testing.
> 
> My apologies in advance if I've misinterpreted the question and thus
> am about to waste space. :)
> 
> When I bumped from Buster to Bullseye, it took "a few seconds" of
> digging to figure out why the previous security repository
> declarations failed. I now have this in my user CHOICE of a
> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.sources file:
> 
> Types: deb deb-src
> URIs: http://security.debian.org/debian-security
> Suites: bullseye-security
> Components: main contrib non-free
> 
> It has been so long since I used the /etc/apt/sources.list file method
> that it just now took "a few more seconds" to fall back into it, After
> multiple stabs at it, this FINALLY worked correctly *for me*:
> 
> deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main
> contrib non-free
> deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security
> main contrib non-free
> 
> That's all based on going back to packages.debian.org to refresh my
> brain that I had stable, testing, and unstable all assigned to the
> proper project names (Buster, Bullseye, and Sid, respectively).

I don't follow testing, so the existence of
http://security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/bullseye-security/
was of interest. I would attach its Release file, but it's a
42k waste of bandwidth for list members, so here's a command
for taking a look:

$ wget http://security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/bullseye-security/Release

The Release file consists mainly of the well-known string
e3b0c44298fc1c149afbf4c8996fb92427ae41e4649b934ca495991b7852b855
as would be generated by   sha256sum /dev/null.

Cheers,
David.

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#230299

Fromshadowmaker@logorroici.org
Date2021-01-03 19:30 +0100
Message-ID<BtgiB-4vC-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#230290
El 2021-01-03 15:45, David Wright escribió:
> On Sun 03 Jan 2021 at 14:56:26 (+0000), shadowmaker@logorroici.org 
> wrote:
>> I have no idea how to solve this problem: I installed a Debian 10 in
>> my computer.
> 
> Recently? If so, you might be best off by reinstalling 10 from scratch.
> 
>> The GPU was only supported with linux 5.8 so I updated to
>> bullseye.
> 
> You might be better off installing 5.8 from buster-backports.
> 
>> I don't know how to configure correctly the sources.list
>> file so I just changed all the 'buster' for 'bullseye' and it upgraded
>> well (but the Debian-security failed I don't know why. It would be
>> interesting if someone helps me with that).
> 
> Because there is no security support for testing.

Yea, I realized and just commented that line
Now I am in an unstable version :)
I just want my GPU to work... But now I generate other problem...
I wrote twice a line in the sources.list and now 'apt upgrade' gives a 
problem because some files are twice configured in 'sources.list'. I 
fixed the bad lines but the problem didn't solve. How do I fix this 
little problem?

>> I rebooted to use the last
>> kernel an the GPU controllers worked this time. But, the startx (I
>> installed GNOME) didn't work. I tried to upgrade and... More than 500
>> packages were kept back... I am using bullseye so I don't think I have
>> a deprecated version. But  don't know how to configure the sources...
>> Could someone send me a configuration for the last bullseye system?

> It doesn't sound as if you're familiar enough with Debian to be able
> to comfortably run a testing system.

As I said above, now I made a bigger problem... I am not familiar enough 
to Debian, but I need some components working and they are not available 
on Debian 10 (I need the 5.8 kernel for the GPU and some packages in 
testing to use the touchpad).

Happy hacking

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