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  Re: Debian 10 64bit Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-12-18 19:20 +0100
    Re: Debian 10 64bit Jerry Mellon <jfmellon@netscape.net> - 2020-12-18 21:50 +0100
      Re: Debian 10 64bit deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-12-19 00:10 +0100
        Re: Debian 10 64bit <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-12-19 09:50 +0100
          Re: Debian 10 64bit Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-12-19 20:10 +0100
            Re: Debian 10 64bit deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-12-19 22:40 +0100
            Re: Debian 10 64bit David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-12-24 02:30 +0100
              Re: Debian 10 64bit <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-12-24 10:40 +0100
              Re: Debian 10 64bit deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-12-24 12:30 +0100

#229822 — Re: Debian 10 64bit

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 01:05:26PM -0500, Jerry Mellon wrote:
> I installed the Debian 10 64bit from the disks(16) that I purchased. No
> down load from outside involved.

Now we get to wonder what you actually purchased, from whom.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 01:08:32PM -0500, Jerry Mellon wrote:
> Here is the sudoers contents.
> 
> 
> /etc/sudoers
> 
> # User privilege specification
> root	ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
> 
> # Allow members of group sudo to execute any command
> sudo	ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL

That last line is incorrect, or at least does not match the comment
before it.  In order for it to do what the comment says, it would need
to begin with a % sign.

For the record, this is further evidence that you are not using a
pristine Debian system.  A pristine Debian system's sudoers file has
a lot more in it than this, even after correcting the missing % sign.

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#229828

Well all I can say is, it works.

The Disks I purchase were from https://ShopLinuxOnline.com/  . Received 
16disk and did not have any problems with them. They were all marked
Debian 10.6 Buster 64 Bit(amd64) with the Debian Logo.

I am the only user on my laptop, an ASUS gaming machine Core i7. I gave
up on Windows 10 after one of the so called updates corrupted the system
so bad I could even boot. So I switched to Linux and I am learning a
lot, mostly from the Debian-user list.

Thanks again.
Jerry

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#229830

Jerry Mellon wrote:

> I am the only user on my laptop, an ASUS gaming machine Core i7. I gave
> up on Windows 10 after one of the so called updates corrupted the system
> so bad I could even boot. So I switched to Linux and I am learning a
> lot, mostly from the Debian-user list.

It is good to learn from the list, but you should learn in a constructive
way

I found the Debian Wiki very helpful and recommend it.
https://wiki.debian.org/

Also I find very helpful the ArchLinux Wiki if I want to know how things
work in general. They tend to have a bit better (sorry Debian) concept of
documentation.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Table_of_contents

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#229832

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On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 12:01:14AM +0100, deloptes wrote:

[...]

> Also I find very helpful the ArchLinux Wiki if I want to know how things
> work in general. They tend to have a bit better (sorry Debian) concept of
> documentation.
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Table_of_contents

As a staunch Debian fanboi myself: the ArchLinux Wiki rocks!

The nice part about free software and the attitude behind it is that
there's no need to be sorry if "someone else" is better than "us" at
some thing. Enjoy that and offer them whatever it is what you can do
better in exchange.

Cheers
 - t

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#229846

On Sat 19 Dec 2020 at 09:43:02 +0100, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 12:01:14AM +0100, deloptes wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > Also I find very helpful the ArchLinux Wiki if I want to know how things
> > work in general. They tend to have a bit better (sorry Debian) concept of
> > documentation.
> > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Table_of_contents
> 
> As a staunch Debian fanboi myself: the ArchLinux Wiki rocks!

In what way does it rock? It hasn't any focus on Debian. Examples
welcome.

> The nice part about free software and the attitude behind it is that
> there's no need to be sorry if "someone else" is better than "us" at
> some thing. Enjoy that and offer them whatever it is what you can do
> better in exchange.

Agreed.

-- 
Brian.

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#229853

Brian wrote:

> In what way does it rock? It hasn't any focus on Debian. Examples
> welcome.

Not on Debian, but it explains programs, subsystems and configurations much
better. AFAIR it was discussed once here.
What I was reading there, because the info I found on debian was confusing,
outdated or unstructured

udev - ArchWiki
udisks - ArchWiki
NetworkManager - ArchWiki
CPU frequency scaling - ArchWiki
GRUB - ArchWiki
GPT fdisk - ArchWiki
PulseAudio - ArchWiki
Bluetooth - ArchWiki
etc.

For me personally it worked always like following. Some details and
understanding required (example GPT when moving to UEFI). Debian Wiki
explains how to configure and use Debian with GPT and UEFI. ArchWiki gives
all technical details on the subject.
It really rocks, but I mean the combination of the two.

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#229957

On Sat 19 Dec 2020 at 19:04:40 (+0000), Brian wrote:
> On Sat 19 Dec 2020 at 09:43:02 +0100, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 12:01:14AM +0100, deloptes wrote:
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > > Also I find very helpful the ArchLinux Wiki if I want to know how things
> > > work in general. They tend to have a bit better (sorry Debian) concept of
> > > documentation.
> > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Table_of_contents
> > 
> > As a staunch Debian fanboi myself: the ArchLinux Wiki rocks!
> 
> In what way does it rock? It hasn't any focus on Debian. Examples
> welcome.

Because of the threatened demise of wicd, I've started looking at
connman, something you've suggested in the past. The Debian wiki
https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse?highlight=%28connman%29
has a few connmanctl commands from a jessie user who had some
problem with that old favourite, TL-WN722N/ath9k. That's it.

> > The nice part about free software and the attitude behind it is that
> > there's no need to be sorry if "someone else" is better than "us" at
> > some thing. Enjoy that and offer them whatever it is what you can do
> > better in exchange.

Yes. And that's probably why google searches so often land on Arch
wiki pages—I assume that google is still ranking on the basis of
links to pages.

Cheers,
David.

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On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 07:29:21PM -0600, David Wright wrote:

[...]

> Yes. And that's probably why google searches so often land on Arch
> wiki pages—I assume that google is still ranking on the basis of
> links to pages.

Google? What /is/ that google thing people keep talking about?

;-P

Xmas, happy new and all that
 - t

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#229964

David Wright wrote:

> Yes. And that's probably why google searches so often land on Arch
> wiki pages—I assume that google is still ranking on the basis of
> links to pages.

Links to pages?! Clicks on links and profiling

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