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How i can optimize my operating system?

Started byWilliam Torrez Corea <willitc9888@gmail.com>
First post2021-03-11 20:00 +0100
Last post2021-03-14 05:30 +0100
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  How i can optimize my operating system? William Torrez Corea <willitc9888@gmail.com> - 2021-03-11 20:00 +0100
    Re: How i can optimize my operating system? Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-03-11 20:10 +0100
      Re: How i can optimize my operating system? William Torrez Corea <willitc9888@gmail.com> - 2021-03-11 20:30 +0100
        Re: How i can optimize my operating system? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-03-11 21:10 +0100
        Re: How i can optimize my operating system? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-03-11 22:10 +0100
          Re: How i can optimize my operating system? Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2021-03-11 23:30 +0100
            Re: How i can optimize my operating system? Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2021-03-12 01:20 +0100
              Re: How i can optimize my operating system? Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-03-12 12:40 +0100
                Re: How i can optimize my operating system? William Torrez Corea <willitc9888@gmail.com> - 2021-03-12 15:40 +0100
                  Re: How i can optimize my operating system? Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-03-12 17:10 +0100
                    Re: How i can optimize my operating system? William Torrez Corea <willitc9888@gmail.com> - 2021-03-12 17:30 +0100
                    Re: How i can optimize my operating system? Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-03-12 17:30 +0100
            Re: How i can optimize my operating system? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-03-12 08:10 +0100
              Re: How i can optimize my operating system? Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-03-12 08:20 +0100
                Re: How i can optimize my operating system? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-12 09:30 +0100
                  Re: How i can optimize my operating system? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-03-12 09:40 +0100
                    Re: How i can optimize my operating system? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-12 09:40 +0100
                      Re: How i can optimize my operating system? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-03-12 10:50 +0100
                        Re: How i can optimize my operating system? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-12 12:50 +0100
                          Re: How i can optimize my operating system? songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-03-12 15:30 +0100
                  Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-03-12 10:40 +0100
                    Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-12 11:00 +0100
                    Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) Cindy Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2021-03-12 12:00 +0100
                      Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-12 13:00 +0100
                    Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-03-12 17:00 +0100
                      Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2021-03-12 17:20 +0100
                        Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) "James H. H. Lampert" <jamesl@touchtonecorp.com> - 2021-03-12 17:30 +0100
                          Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-12 18:30 +0100
                            Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-03-12 19:50 +0100
                              Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-12 22:50 +0100
                                Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-03-12 23:40 +0100
                              Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2021-03-13 19:40 +0100
                                Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) grumpy <grumpy@mailfence.com> - 2021-03-14 00:00 +0100
                                  Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-14 09:30 +0100
                            Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-03-13 08:30 +0100
                              Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-13 09:50 +0100
                                Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-03-18 04:00 +0100
                                  Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-03-18 05:10 +0100
                                    Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-18 09:40 +0100
                                      Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-03-18 23:20 +0100
                                        [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-03-19 01:00 +0100
                                          Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my  operating system?) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-03-20 13:40 +0100
                                            Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-03-20 19:10 +0100
                                              Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my  operating system?) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-03-21 09:00 +0100
                                                Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-03-21 11:50 +0100
                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my  operating system?) Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-03-21 13:10 +0100
                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-03-21 14:40 +0100
                                                      Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my  operating system?) Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-03-21 14:50 +0100
                                                      Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my  operating system?) Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-03-22 03:40 +0100
                                                      Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-03-22 07:30 +0100
                                                        Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my  operating system?) Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-03-22 08:40 +0100
                                                        Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my  operating system?) Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-03-22 08:40 +0100
                                                        Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2021-03-22 08:50 +0100
                                                        Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my  operating system?) Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2021-03-22 09:10 +0100
                                                        Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-03-22 09:20 +0100
                                                          Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my  operating system?) Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-03-22 10:00 +0100
                                                            Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-03-22 10:10 +0100
                                                              Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my  operating system?) Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-03-22 10:20 +0100
                                                                Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-03-22 20:50 +0100
                                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my  operating system?) Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-03-22 21:00 +0100
                                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-03-22 21:20 +0100
                                                                      Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2021-03-22 21:40 +0100
                                                                        Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my  operating system?) Viktor Vogel <viktor@policy.redirectme.net> - 2021-03-23 17:10 +0100
                                                                          Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my   operating system?) Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-03-23 19:20 +0100
                                                                          Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my  operating system?) ellanios82 <ellanios82@gmail.com> - 2021-03-23 20:30 +0100
                                                                            Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my  operating system?) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-03-23 21:50 +0100
                                                                      Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my  operating system?) Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-03-22 21:50 +0100
                                                                        Re: SERIOUSLY DANGEROUSLY OFF-TOPIC verb conjugation <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-23 09:30 +0100
                                                                          Re: SERIOUSLY DANGEROUSLY OFF-TOPIC verb conjugation Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-03-23 12:00 +0100
                                                            Re: System hacks more than one year. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-03-22 20:50 +0100
                                                              Re: System hacks more than one year. Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-03-22 21:20 +0100
                                                              Re: System hacks more than one year. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-03-22 21:20 +0100
                                                      Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my  operating system?) Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-03-22 10:10 +0100
                                                Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my  operating system?) Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2021-05-08 14:20 +0200
                                                Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my  operating system?) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-05-08 13:30 +0200
                                            Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-03-20 19:20 +0100
                                              Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my  operating system?) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-03-21 09:30 +0100
                                            Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-03-20 20:40 +0100
                                              Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-03-21 03:10 +0100
                                      Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-03-18 21:20 +0100
                                        Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-03-18 21:40 +0100
                                          [OT] Debian Offtopic (Was: Re: Social-media antipathy)) Linux-Fan <Ma_Sys.ma@web.de> - 2021-03-18 22:00 +0100
                                  Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-18 09:30 +0100
                                    Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-03-18 10:00 +0100
                                      Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-18 11:20 +0100
                                    Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-03-18 15:10 +0100
                                      Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) riveravaldez <riveravaldezmail@gmail.com> - 2021-03-18 16:50 +0100
                                        Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) riveravaldez <riveravaldezmail@gmail.com> - 2021-03-18 17:00 +0100
                                        Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) riveravaldez <riveravaldezmail@gmail.com> - 2021-03-18 22:00 +0100
                                          Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-03-19 01:20 +0100
                                            Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-03-19 01:30 +0100
                                        Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-03-18 17:50 +0100
                                        Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-03-18 18:40 +0100
                                      Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) tomas@tuxteam.de - 2021-03-18 17:30 +0100
                                        Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-03-18 18:20 +0100
                                          Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) "James H. H. Lampert" <jamesl@touchtonecorp.com> - 2021-03-18 18:30 +0100
                              Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-03-13 15:10 +0100
                                Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-03-13 15:20 +0100
                                  Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-03-13 15:30 +0100
                                  Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-03-13 22:10 +0100
                                    Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-03-13 22:20 +0100
                                      Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-03-13 22:40 +0100
                                        Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-03-14 00:50 +0100
                                          Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) Tom Yates <madhatter@teaparty.net> - 2021-03-14 07:30 +0100
                                            Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-03-14 11:20 +0100
                                          Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-14 09:50 +0100
                                            Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-03-14 12:10 +0100
                                              Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-14 12:20 +0100
                                                Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-03-14 13:10 +0100
                                                  Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-14 13:30 +0100
                                                    Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-03-14 15:50 +0100
                                                      Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-03-15 10:00 +0100
                                                        Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-15 10:10 +0100
                                                  Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-03-14 19:10 +0100
                                              Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-03-14 19:00 +0100
                                            Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-03-14 18:50 +0100
                          Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2021-03-12 18:50 +0100
                            Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) Peter Hillier-Brook <phb@hbsys.plus.com> - 2021-03-12 20:10 +0100
                              Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) "Jeremy Nicoll" <jn.ml.dbn.25@letterboxes.org> - 2021-03-12 20:30 +0100
                                Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-03-12 20:40 +0100
                        Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-12 18:30 +0100
                        Re: Social-media antipathy Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2021-03-13 11:00 +0100
                          Re: Social-media antipathy Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-03-13 22:20 +0100
                            Re: Social-media antipathy "James H. H. Lampert" <jamesl@touchtonecorp.com> - 2021-03-14 15:50 +0100
                      Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) Will Mengarini <seldon@eskimo.com> - 2021-05-09 10:00 +0200
                    Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) grumpy <grumpy@mailfence.com> - 2021-03-12 20:40 +0100
                      Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating  system?) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-03-12 20:50 +0100
                    Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) William Torrez Corea <willitc9888@gmail.com> - 2021-03-14 05:30 +0100

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#233335 — Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

Fromdeloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
Date2021-03-22 21:20 +0100
SubjectRe: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)
Message-ID<BVzbQ-7sO-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#233330
Weaver wrote:

> Not an easy language to learn, however, unless you already have Slavic
> roots.

You mean Chinese is easier than Russian and Russian is harder than French?
And I mean not only speaking, but also writing

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#233337 — Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

FromJohn Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com>
Date2021-03-22 21:40 +0100
SubjectRe: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)
Message-ID<BVzvc-7zc-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#233335
 deloptes writes:
> You mean Chinese is easier than Russian and Russian is harder than
> French?

I have no experience with Chinese but I found Russian harder than French
(though I've pretty much forgotten both).
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#233387 — Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

FromViktor Vogel <viktor@policy.redirectme.net>
Date2021-03-23 17:10 +0100
SubjectRe: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)
Message-ID<BVRLs-26D-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#233337
An observation from a native English speaker -

I've lived and worked in the Republic of China, and had gotten a fairly 
good grasp of Mandarin. In my experience tackling Russian I found it 
much more difficult than Chinese.

Chinese has different sounds, and tones that need to be mastered, but 
the grammar is dead simple.

Russian also has different sounds, and the grammar is incredibly 
complex, baroque and inconsistent.

Viktor

On 3/22/21 1:35 PM, John Hasler wrote:
>   deloptes writes:
>> You mean Chinese is easier than Russian and Russian is harder than
>> French?
> I have no experience with Chinese but I found Russian harder than French
> (though I've pretty much forgotten both).

-- 
"It's always rewarding to talk to a clever man" - Raskolnikov, "Crime and Punishment"

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#233395 — Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

FromCurt <curty@free.fr>
Date2021-03-23 19:20 +0100
SubjectRe: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)
Message-ID<BVTNg-3q5-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#233387
On 2021-03-23, Viktor Vogel <viktor@policy.redirectme.net> wrote:
> An observation from a native English speaker -
>
> I've lived and worked in the Republic of China, and had gotten a fairly 
> good grasp of Mandarin. In my experience tackling Russian I found it 
> much more difficult than Chinese.
>

I remember seeing an interview with Norman Mailer after he published his
book about Oswald, which he researched for an extended period of time in
Russia. He said that if he would have been the crying type, he would've
cried from frustration trying to learn Russian (he never managed to do
it, though he tried).

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#233396 — Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

Fromellanios82 <ellanios82@gmail.com>
Date2021-03-23 20:30 +0100
SubjectRe: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)
Message-ID<BVUSZ-42W-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#233387
On 3/23/21 5:51 PM, Viktor Vogel wrote:
> An observation from a native English speaker -
>
> I've lived and worked in the Republic of China, and had gotten a 
> fairly good grasp of Mandarin. In my experience tackling Russian I 
> found it much more difficult than Chinese.
>
> Chinese has different sounds, and tones that need to be mastered, but 
> the grammar is dead simple.
>
> Russian also has different sounds, and the grammar is incredibly 
> complex, baroque and inconsistent.

  - wonder if someone has observations on learning Modern Greek ?


....

  regards

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#233399 — Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2021-03-23 21:50 +0100
SubjectRe: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)
Message-ID<BVW8p-4Hy-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#233396
On Tue 23 Mar 2021 at 21:21:32 +0200, ellanios82 wrote:

> On 3/23/21 5:51 PM, Viktor Vogel wrote:
> > An observation from a native English speaker -
> > 
> > I've lived and worked in the Republic of China, and had gotten a fairly
> > good grasp of Mandarin. In my experience tackling Russian I found it
> > much more difficult than Chinese.
> > 
> > Chinese has different sounds, and tones that need to be mastered, but
> > the grammar is dead simple.
> > 
> > Russian also has different sounds, and the grammar is incredibly
> > complex, baroque and inconsistent.
> 
>  - wonder if someone has observations on learning Modern Greek ?

Gerunds are somewhat more difficult than in Ancient Greek. Apart from
that, most modern Greeks seem to cope with them.

-- 
Brian.

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#233338 — Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

FromWeaver <weaver@riseup.net>
Date2021-03-22 21:50 +0100
SubjectRe: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)
Message-ID<BVzER-7CA-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#233335
On 23-03-2021 06:06, deloptes wrote:
> Weaver wrote:
> 
>> Not an easy language to learn, however, unless you already have Slavic
>> roots.
> 
> You mean Chinese is easier than Russian and Russian is harder than French?
> And I mean not only speaking, but also writing

 Yes, once you understand the structure of Mandarin, it's not hard to
get on top of it.
Russian is harder than French, but the French find it easier to learn
than most, because they are already familiar with concepts such as verb
conjugation, which they both share.
Cheers!

Harry
-- 
Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false,
and by the rulers as useful.

— Lucius Annæus Seneca.

Terrorism, the new religion.

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#233366 — Re: SERIOUSLY DANGEROUSLY OFF-TOPIC verb conjugation

From<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date2021-03-23 09:30 +0100
SubjectRe: SERIOUSLY DANGEROUSLY OFF-TOPIC verb conjugation
Message-ID<BVKAi-60C-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#233338

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On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 01:41:42PM -0700, Weaver wrote:
> On 23-03-2021 06:06, deloptes wrote:
> > Weaver wrote:
> > 
> >> Not an easy language to learn, however, unless you already have Slavic
> >> roots.
> > 
> > You mean Chinese is easier than Russian and Russian is harder than French?
> > And I mean not only speaking, but also writing
> 
>  Yes, once you understand the structure of Mandarin, it's not hard to
> get on top of it.
> Russian is harder than French, but the French find it easier to learn
> than most, because they are already familiar with concepts such as verb
> conjugation, which they both share.

Therefore, Arabic and Latin (which also share verb conjugation) must
be a piece of cake for French people. As should be Spanish, Adyghe
and Ilocano. All of them conjugated! THIS MUST BE A CONSPIRACY!

Actually, Russian conjugations are pretty primitive, nothing like
French. The tricky part in Russian is verb aspects, something which
is quite unfamiliar to French (and most predominantly romance
languages) and more familiar to Germanic languages. Although this
pattern has been drowned in the lexicon in most of the latter.

Uh -- whatever.

C'm on, folks. This thread has been wrung out. Let it die.

And, oh, Weaver: either you have no clue or you are pulling our
legs. Possibly both.

Cheers
 - t

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#233379 — Re: SERIOUSLY DANGEROUSLY OFF-TOPIC verb conjugation

FromCurt <curty@free.fr>
Date2021-03-23 12:00 +0100
SubjectRe: SERIOUSLY DANGEROUSLY OFF-TOPIC verb conjugation
Message-ID<BVMVs-7oW-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#233366
On 2021-03-23, <tomas@tuxteam.de> <tomas@tuxteam.de> wrote:
>
>
> And, oh, Weaver: either you have no clue or you are pulling our
> legs. Possibly both.
>

The uncritical ease with which it promotes its particularly narrow sentiments
to the broadness of general law is astounding.

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#233329 — Re: System hacks more than one year.

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2021-03-22 20:50 +0100
SubjectRe: System hacks more than one year.
Message-ID<BVyIO-73x-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#233308
On Mon 22 Mar 2021 at 19:09:57 +0000, Leandro neto wrote:

> 
> Hi devs. And users. I am brig jacks since October of 2019 by the same person.
> By the way the uses Debian system to do it. I am not a professional I don't now
> what to do. Because they crossed the line. They now are impared me to work.
> Distroied all my cell phones. Hacks every email account I have. And put
> something inside every hardware and computer I bought buy the way I have the
> source code. Thouso guy are here to stolen workes banks account. From people.
> All my posts on Debian are ereased also on Ubuntu. This is crime also a matter
> of public safety 
>  
> where are the respect the privacy of the others??? Here is a public lin ethics
> evidences. They are cowards and come by the cell carries. Fell free to remote
> acres my machines. I am no a professional just a physician. 
> leandro
>  
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/fovKnEnNXTkqAFkd7
> 
> Enviado via UOL Mail

Leandro neto, you are off-topic for this thread. It has now moved to
global politics and putting the world to rights.

You have also posted in html only. That will not endear you to some of
the present participants!

-- 
Brian.

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#233334 — Re: System hacks more than one year.

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2021-03-22 21:20 +0100
SubjectRe: System hacks more than one year.
Message-ID<BVzbP-7sO-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#233329
On Monday 22 March 2021 15:42:54 Brian wrote:

> On Mon 22 Mar 2021 at 19:09:57 +0000, Leandro neto wrote:
> > Hi devs. And users. I am brig jacks since October of 2019 by the
> > same person. By the way the uses Debian system to do it. I am not a
> > professional I don't now what to do. Because they crossed the line.
> > They now are impared me to work. Distroied all my cell phones. Hacks
> > every email account I have. And put something inside every hardware
> > and computer I bought buy the way I have the source code. Thouso guy
> > are here to stolen workes banks account. From people. All my posts
> > on Debian are ereased also on Ubuntu. This is crime also a matter of
> > public safety
> >
> > where are the respect the privacy of the others??? Here is a public
> > lin ethics evidences. They are cowards and come by the cell carries.
> > Fell free to remote acres my machines. I am no a professional just a
> > physician. leandro
> >
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/fovKnEnNXTkqAFkd7
> >
> > Enviado via UOL Mail
>
> Leandro neto, you are off-topic for this thread. It has now moved to
> global politics and putting the world to rights.
>
> You have also posted in html only. That will not endear you to some of
> the present participants!

Should have been moved to spam or even /dev/null, that isp's address has 
been in my procmail to be sent to /dev/null for at least 10 years. But 
now that isp has figured out a way to relay thru a mailing list.

Sorry to sound abusive, but that isp has been a major network spam 
generater since they came online. I've had more than my fill of them.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#233336 — Re: System hacks more than one year.

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2021-03-22 21:20 +0100
SubjectRe: System hacks more than one year.
Message-ID<BVzbQ-7sO-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#233329
On Mon 22 Mar 2021 at 19:42:54 +0000, Brian wrote:

> On Mon 22 Mar 2021 at 19:09:57 +0000, Leandro neto wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Hi devs. And users. I am brig jacks since October of 2019 by the same person.
> > By the way the uses Debian system to do it. I am not a professional I don't now
> > what to do. Because they crossed the line. They now are impared me to work.
> > Distroied all my cell phones. Hacks every email account I have. And put
> > something inside every hardware and computer I bought buy the way I have the
> > source code. Thouso guy are here to stolen workes banks account. From people.
> > All my posts on Debian are ereased also on Ubuntu. This is crime also a matter
> > of public safety 
> >  
> > where are the respect the privacy of the others??? Here is a public lin ethics
> > evidences. They are cowards and come by the cell carries. Fell free to remote
> > acres my machines. I am no a professional just a physician. 
> > leandro
> >  
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/fovKnEnNXTkqAFkd7
> > 
> > Enviado via UOL Mail
> 
> Leandro neto, you are off-topic for this thread. It has now moved to
> global politics and putting the world to rights.

Apoogies Leandro neto, I have mislead you. We have now moved on to
how easy (or hard) it is to read and write in certain languages.

If the change in topic does not suit you, please edge it towards a
discussion on Brexit.

-- 
Brian.

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#233310 — Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2021-03-22 10:10 +0100
SubjectRe: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)
Message-ID<BVoJs-17e-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#233278
On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 01:20:02 +0000 (UTC)
Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> wrote:


> 
> term Chinese government is quite misleadingit's used as if it's same
> as other legitimate  government, i.e. elected by people its true
> nature is criminal group, as described in bill by US senator
> 

All governments are criminal groups.

-- 
Joe

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#234978 — Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

FromKenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com>
Date2021-05-08 14:20 +0200
SubjectRe: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)
Message-ID<Ccu65-6Lz-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#233271

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On Sat, May 8, 2021, 7:22 AM Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Du, 21 mar 21, 09:55:32, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >
> > Of course the *primary* private key should be protected properly. A
> > Debian recommendation (that I can't find) was suggesting to generate and
> > keep it on a Tails USB stick and use it only for certifying other keys.
>

I would modify that slightly:  Save it on two, *different* Tails USB
Sticks, and save them in different locations.

Kenneth Parker

> >
> > Day to day work (messages, signing packages, etc.) should be done with
> > sub-keys instead.
>
> Found it:
>
>     https://wiki.debian.org/GnuPG/AirgappedMasterKey
>
>
> Kind regards,
> Andrei
> --
> http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser
>

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#234991 — Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

FromAndrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
Date2021-05-08 13:30 +0200
SubjectRe: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)
Message-ID<CctjH-6e5-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#233271

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On Du, 21 mar 21, 09:55:32, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> 
> Of course the *primary* private key should be protected properly. A 
> Debian recommendation (that I can't find) was suggesting to generate and 
> keep it on a Tails USB stick and use it only for certifying other keys.
> 
> Day to day work (messages, signing packages, etc.) should be done with 
> sub-keys instead.

Found it:

    https://wiki.debian.org/GnuPG/AirgappedMasterKey


Kind regards,
Andrei
-- 
http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

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#233255 — Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

Fromdeloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
Date2021-03-20 19:20 +0100
SubjectRe: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)
Message-ID<BUOmC-3by-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#233249
Andrei POPESCU wrote:

> In my (not so humble) opinion, this level of security could make sense
> for a disident in a totalitarian state, less so for regular users in
> democratic country.
> 

And you disappoint me here too - you believe in illusion of democracy, which
is not so obvious as i.e. in China, but I found out it is even much worse.
No need to argue and explain - I will not - Assange, Snowden are enough!
This is like in The Matrix. 
Enjoy the feeling for democracy as long as you can, but keep in mind the
reality is not so far from a "totalitarian state" and don't take the
colorful glasses off - it may lead to depression.

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#233272 — Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

FromAndrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
Date2021-03-21 09:30 +0100
SubjectRe: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)
Message-ID<BV1Db-3qf-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#233255

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On Sb, 20 mar 21, 19:11:07, deloptes wrote:
> Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> 
> > In my (not so humble) opinion, this level of security could make sense
> > for a disident in a totalitarian state, less so for regular users in
> > democratic country.
> > 
> 
> And you disappoint me here too - you believe in illusion of democracy, which
> is not so obvious as i.e. in China, but I found out it is even much worse.
> No need to argue and explain - I will not - Assange, Snowden are enough!
> This is like in The Matrix. 
> Enjoy the feeling for democracy as long as you can, but keep in mind the
> reality is not so far from a "totalitarian state" and don't take the
> colorful glasses off - it may lead to depression.

As someone who grew up in a totalitarian state I'm quite aware of the 
differences as well as similarities, thank you.

My point is that going full "encrypt everything on an air-gapped 
machine" might work for you, but it's *not* going to scale well as a 
defence to *mass* surveillance.

While it might protect you, the vast majority of users will just dismiss 
this as complete paranoia and carry on *willingly* providing their data 
to various companies and governments, data that totalitarian 
surveillance in previous times could only dream of.

Mass surveillance doesn't care about any single individual, the point is 
to get data from as many people as possible, whether in the name of 
"security" or to sell it to advertisers. Protecting only ourselves is 
meaningless in this context, we are just a statistical rounding error 
anyway.

Getting the majority of users on services that are resistent to mass 
surveillance (even if less than perfect) is the only way to make a 
difference here.

I'm guessing most of us are the ones friends and family turn to for 
advice on those pesky technical matters that they don't care about 
enough to learn, and we can make a difference simply by getting them to 
switch from WhatAspp to Signal or from Gmail to ProtonMail.

Kind regards,
Andrei
-- 
http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

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#233259 — Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

FromStefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Date2021-03-20 20:40 +0100
SubjectRe: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)
Message-ID<BUPC1-3Qu-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#233249
> In my (not so humble) opinion, this level of security could make sense 
> for a disident in a totalitarian state, less so for regular users in 
> democratic country.

Reminds me of the saying that the difference between USA and USSR was
that in USSR the population knew that it was propaganda.


        Stefan

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#233266 — Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

Fromdeloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
Date2021-03-21 03:10 +0100
SubjectRe: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)
Message-ID<BUVHs-7UW-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#233259
Stefan Monnier wrote:

> Reminds me of the saying that the difference between USA and USSR was
> that in USSR the population knew that it was propaganda.

Exactly - this part is absolutely the same.
The difference is in the methods. There it was wellknown, here - not until
internet came out ... or is Assange, or Snowden a free person.

This BS is a joke - I would have never imagined I would watch RT to get a
different point of view :/ or that I would stop reading the magazines I
grew up with (it became unbearable around 2007-2010). But may be it is part
of the transformation we experience with these new technologies incl. the
Social Media, we discuss.

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#233230 — Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

Fromdeloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
Date2021-03-18 21:20 +0100
SubjectRe: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)
Message-ID<BU7hD-1iE-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#233202
tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:

> Come on, as soon as you go out to the street you can be run over by a
> bus...
> 
> You'll still take some precautions, as it might enhance your odds of
> survival :)
> 
>> Why should I bother with your encryption efforts, when I can read your
>> screen?
> 
> This is a good point: one of the weak points of E2E encryptions is,
> indeed, the one end. The other is... the other end ;-)

If I were to advise someone on using encryption I would recommend the
isolated island solution.
As Snowden said do not use a phone with a microphone on it ;-)
Anything that is connected to a network is already compromised. If you are
paranoid - isolate the machine where you read and write, encrypt and
decrypt your messages! I was thinking of starting a crowdfund project for
such a device, but no time to even draft a business plan.

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