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| Started by | Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> |
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| First post | 2021-03-05 18:20 +0100 |
| Last post | 2021-03-06 00:50 +0100 |
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user unit file Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> - 2021-03-05 18:20 +0100
Re: user unit file Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2021-03-05 18:40 +0100
Re: user unit file Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> - 2021-03-05 19:00 +0100
Re: user unit file Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-03-05 19:20 +0100
Re: user unit file Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> - 2021-03-05 19:20 +0100
Re: user unit file Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-03-05 19:40 +0100
Re: user unit file Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> - 2021-03-05 20:20 +0100
Re: user unit file Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-03-05 20:30 +0100
Re: user unit file Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> - 2021-03-05 20:40 +0100
Re: user unit file Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> - 2021-03-05 20:30 +0100
Re: user unit file Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-03-05 20:30 +0100
Re: user unit file Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> - 2021-03-05 20:40 +0100
Re: user unit file Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-03-05 21:50 +0100
Re: user unit file Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> - 2021-03-06 00:50 +0100
| From | Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> |
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| Date | 2021-03-05 18:20 +0100 |
| Subject | user unit file |
| Message-ID | <BPmhj-6rt-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
Please be gentle. Searching for this is proving futile. How do I enable systemd user (--user) unit files that are maintained in a user's home directory at /home/bob/.config/systemd/user/*.service ? tia, -Jim P.
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| From | Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> |
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| Date | 2021-03-05 18:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <BPmAF-6xU-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #232411 |
Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> wrote: > Please be gentle. Searching for this is proving futile. > How do I enable systemd user (--user) unit files that are maintained in > a user's home directory at /home/bob/.config/systemd/user/*.service ? What do you mean with "enable"? "Enable" as in "enable support"? Then everything is enabled. Or "enable" as in "enable the unit"? Then "systemctl --user enable unitname.service" does what you want. Or "enable" as in "start at boot"? Then you to enable lingering for the user via loginctl as root. S° -- Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.
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| From | Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> |
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| Date | 2021-03-05 19:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <BPmU2-6ET-15@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #232412 |
On Fri, 2021-03-05 at 18:36 +0100, Sven Hartge wrote: > Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> wrote: > > Please be gentle. Searching for this is proving futile. > > How do I enable systemd user (--user) unit files that are maintained in > > a user's home directory at /home/bob/.config/systemd/user/*.service ? > > What do you mean with "enable"? > > "Enable" as in "enable support"? Then everything is enabled. > > Or "enable" as in "enable the unit"? Then "systemctl --user enable > unitname.service" does what you want. > > Or "enable" as in "start at boot"? Then you to enable lingering for the > user via loginctl as root. > Why not, All of the above! :) Right now I can't get this to work: ~$ systemctl --user enable Test.service Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory ~$ cat ~/.config/systemd/user/Test.service [Unit] Description = Test Service After = network.target [Service] WorkingDirectory=/home/bob/Test/ ExecStart = bash Test.sh TimeoutSec=15 [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target tia, -Jim P.
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| From | Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> |
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| Date | 2021-03-05 19:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <BPndn-71q-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #232413 |
Jim Popovitch (jim@k4vqc.com) wrote: > Right now I can't get this to work: > > ~$ systemctl --user enable Test.service > Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory After Googling this error, I suspect that you're either operating in an environment where the XDG variables are not being set properly, or else dbus is actually not running. How did you get to THAT specific shell, the one where you typed that command and got that error? Give details. In that same shell, what does env | grep XDG give you? How about systemctl --user status ?
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| From | Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> |
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| Date | 2021-03-05 19:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <BPndn-71q-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #232414 |
On Fri, 2021-03-05 at 13:11 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Jim Popovitch (jim@k4vqc.com) wrote: > > Right now I can't get this to work: > > > > ~$ systemctl --user enable Test.service > > Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory > > After Googling this error, I suspect that you're either operating in > an environment where the XDG variables are not being set properly, > or else dbus is actually not running. > > How did you get to THAT specific shell, the one where you typed that > command and got that error? Give details. > > In that same shell, what does env | grep XDG give you? > > How about systemctl --user status ? > It's a VPS server, I ssh'ed in. No GUI, minimal install to test systemd user unit files. bob@sbc:~$ ps -ef|grep dbus message+ 520 1 0 13:08 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system --address=systemd: --nofork --nopidfile --systemd-activation -- syslog-only bob 2422 2413 0 18:14 pts/0 00:00:00 grep --color=auto dbus bob@sbc:~$ env|grep XDG bob@sbc:~$ systemctl --user status Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory bob@sbc:~$ Thanks! Any advice/help is much appreciated. -Jim P.
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| From | Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> |
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| Date | 2021-03-05 19:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <BPnwL-79l-35@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #232415 |
Jim Popovitch (jim@k4vqc.com) wrote: > It's a VPS server, I ssh'ed in. No GUI, minimal install to test systemd > user unit files. Apparently you need to configure sshd to use PAM. > bob@sbc:~$ ps -ef|grep dbus > message+ 520 1 0 13:08 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon > --system --address=systemd: --nofork --nopidfile --systemd-activation -- > syslog-only > bob 2422 2413 0 18:14 pts/0 00:00:00 grep --color=auto dbus > bob@sbc:~$ env|grep XDG > bob@sbc:~$ systemctl --user status > Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory > bob@sbc:~$ https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=234813 It was my first Google result.
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| From | Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> |
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| Date | 2021-03-05 20:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <BPo9r-7CI-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #232416 |
On Fri, 2021-03-05 at 13:35 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Jim Popovitch (jim@k4vqc.com) wrote: > > It's a VPS server, I ssh'ed in. No GUI, minimal install to test systemd > > user unit files. > > Apparently you need to configure sshd to use PAM. > > > bob@sbc:~$ ps -ef|grep dbus > > message+ 520 1 0 13:08 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon > > --system --address=systemd: --nofork --nopidfile --systemd-activation -- > > syslog-only > > bob 2422 2413 0 18:14 pts/0 00:00:00 grep --color=auto dbus > > bob@sbc:~$ env|grep XDG > > bob@sbc:~$ systemctl --user status > > Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory > > bob@sbc:~$ > > https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=234813 > > It was my first Google result. Ugh. So the solution seems to be to add UsePAM to sshd just to make systemd work. Not sure that I can get that approved, but I will see. Thx Greg. -Jim P.
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| From | Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> |
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| Date | 2021-03-05 20:30 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <BPoj8-7FZ-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #232417 |
Jim Popovitch (jim@k4vqc.com) wrote: > On Fri, 2021-03-05 at 14:21 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Jim Popovitch (jim@k4vqc.com) wrote: > > > Ugh. So the solution seems to be to add UsePAM to sshd just to make > > > systemd work. Not sure that I can get that approved, but I will see. > > > > This sounds like an X-Y problem. What are you actually trying to do? > > That sounds like an X-Y question. :) > > Obviously I'm trying to run a systemd unit file from within a non-root > env. I apologize if that wasn't obvious. Why? What does it do? Why do you need to invoke it this way? What results are you expecting to achieve?
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| From | Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> |
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| Date | 2021-03-05 20:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <BPosN-7Jb-13@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #232419 |
On Fri, 2021-03-05 at 14:29 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Jim Popovitch (jim@k4vqc.com) wrote: > > On Fri, 2021-03-05 at 14:21 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > Jim Popovitch (jim@k4vqc.com) wrote: > > > > Ugh. So the solution seems to be to add UsePAM to sshd just to make > > > > systemd work. Not sure that I can get that approved, but I will see. > > > > > > This sounds like an X-Y problem. What are you actually trying to do? > > > > That sounds like an X-Y question. :) > > > > Obviously I'm trying to run a systemd unit file from within a non-root > > env. I apologize if that wasn't obvious. > > Why? What does it do? Why do you need to invoke it this way? What > results are you expecting to achieve? Thanks Greg. -Jim P.
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| From | Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> |
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| Date | 2021-03-05 20:30 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <BPoj8-7FZ-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #232417 |
On Fri, 2021-03-05 at 14:21 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Jim Popovitch (jim@k4vqc.com) wrote: > > Ugh. So the solution seems to be to add UsePAM to sshd just to make > > systemd work. Not sure that I can get that approved, but I will see. > > This sounds like an X-Y problem. What are you actually trying to do? That sounds like an X-Y question. :) Obviously I'm trying to run a systemd unit file from within a non-root env. I apologize if that wasn't obvious. -Jim P.
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| From | Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> |
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| Date | 2021-03-05 20:30 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <BPoj8-7FZ-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #232417 |
Jim Popovitch (jim@k4vqc.com) wrote: > Ugh. So the solution seems to be to add UsePAM to sshd just to make > systemd work. Not sure that I can get that approved, but I will see. This sounds like an X-Y problem. What are you actually trying to do?
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| From | Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> |
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| Date | 2021-03-05 20:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <BPosN-7Jb-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #232417 |
On Fri, 2021-03-05 at 14:16 -0500, Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Fri, 2021-03-05 at 13:35 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Jim Popovitch (jim@k4vqc.com) wrote: > > > It's a VPS server, I ssh'ed in. No GUI, minimal install to test systemd > > > user unit files. > > > > Apparently you need to configure sshd to use PAM. > > > > > bob@sbc:~$ ps -ef|grep dbus > > > message+ 520 1 0 13:08 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon > > > --system --address=systemd: --nofork --nopidfile --systemd-activation -- > > > syslog-only > > > bob 2422 2413 0 18:14 pts/0 00:00:00 grep --color=auto dbus > > > bob@sbc:~$ env|grep XDG > > > bob@sbc:~$ systemctl --user status > > > Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory > > > bob@sbc:~$ > > > > https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=234813 > > > > It was my first Google result. > > Ugh. So the solution seems to be to add UsePAM to sshd just to make > systemd work. Not sure that I can get that approved, but I will see. Further data: One also needs dbus-user-session which pulls in libpam- systemd -Jim P.
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| From | Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-03-05 21:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <BPpyx-8lW-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #232413 |
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On Vi, 05 mar 21, 12:53:24, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > Right now I can't get this to work: > > ~$ systemctl --user enable Test.service > Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory To save you some head banging after you fix this... > ~$ cat ~/.config/systemd/user/Test.service > [Unit] > Description = Test Service > After = network.target > > [Service] > WorkingDirectory=/home/bob/Test/ > ExecStart = bash Test.sh > TimeoutSec=15 > > [Install] > WantedBy=multi-user.target ... user units and system units are completely isolated from each other, so your After= and WantedBy= won't have the expected effect. For WantedBy= you probably want (no pun intended) default.target instead. This is a hack I'm using to order a user unite after a system unit is started: ExecStartPre=/usr/bin/sh -c 'until systemctl --quiet is-active network-online.target ; do sleep 1 ; done' Note: you should read on network-online.target in systemd.special(7) if you intend to follow my example. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser
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| From | Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> |
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| Date | 2021-03-06 00:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <BPsmJ-1HM-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #232432 |
On Fri, 2021-03-05 at 22:45 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 05 mar 21, 12:53:24, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > Right now I can't get this to work: > > > > ~$ systemctl --user enable Test.service > > Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory > > To save you some head banging after you fix this... > > > ~$ cat ~/.config/systemd/user/Test.service > > [Unit] > > Description = Test Service > > After = network.target > > > > [Service] > > WorkingDirectory=/home/bob/Test/ > > ExecStart = bash Test.sh > > TimeoutSec=15 > > > > [Install] > > WantedBy=multi-user.target > > ... user units and system units are completely isolated from each other, > so your After= and WantedBy= won't have the expected effect. > > > For WantedBy= you probably want (no pun intended) default.target > instead. > > > This is a hack I'm using to order a user unite after a system unit is > started: > > ExecStartPre=/usr/bin/sh -c 'until systemctl --quiet is-active network-online.target ; do sleep 1 ; done' > > > Note: you should read on network-online.target in systemd.special(7) if > you intend to follow my example. > > Kind regards, > Andrei Thanks Andrei! -Jim P.
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