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Replacement Email Client

Started byPatrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com>
First post2020-10-25 01:10 +0200
Last post2020-10-25 19:10 +0100
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  Replacement Email Client Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-10-25 01:10 +0200
    Re: Replacement Email Client Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-10-25 01:40 +0200
      Re: Replacement Email Client Ed <ed-debian@s5h.net> - 2020-10-25 09:00 +0100
        Re: Replacement Email Client Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-10-25 15:10 +0100
          Re: Replacement Email Client Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-10-25 15:20 +0100
        Re: Replacement Email Client David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-10-25 15:20 +0100
    Re: Replacement Email Client Leslie Rhorer <lesrhorer@att.net> - 2020-10-25 02:00 +0100
      Re: Replacement Email Client Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-10-25 18:30 +0100
    Re: Replacement Email Client Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-10-25 03:00 +0100
      Re: Replacement Email Client Keith Bainbridge <ke1thozgroups@gmx.com> - 2020-10-25 07:30 +0100
        Re: Replacement Email Client Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-10-25 16:00 +0100
      Re: Replacement Email Client Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-10-25 18:30 +0100
    Re: Replacement Email Client Mark Allums <maa@allums.com> - 2020-10-25 04:40 +0100
    Re: Replacement Email Client Oliver Schoede <oliver.schode@online.de> - 2020-10-25 06:00 +0100
      Re: Replacement Email Client Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-10-25 18:30 +0100
    Re: Replacement Email Client Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2020-10-25 06:30 +0100
      Re: Replacement Email Client John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-10-25 14:40 +0100
        Re: Replacement Email Client <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-10-25 15:00 +0100
      Re: Replacement Email Client Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-10-25 18:40 +0100
        Re: Replacement Email Client John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-10-25 20:10 +0100
          Re: Replacement Email Client Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2020-10-25 21:20 +0100
            Re: Replacement Email Client "Jeremy Nicoll" <jn.ml.dbn.25@letterboxes.org> - 2020-10-25 21:40 +0100
              Re: Replacement Email Client Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2020-10-25 22:10 +0100
          Re: Replacement Email Client Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 01:30 +0100
            Re: Replacement Email Client Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2020-10-26 01:50 +0100
              Re: Replacement Email Client John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-10-26 02:20 +0100
                Re: Replacement Email Client Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2020-10-26 02:50 +0100
                  Re: Replacement Email Client Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-10-26 03:00 +0100
                    Re: Replacement Email Client Michael <ml@hemathor.de> - 2020-10-26 12:40 +0100
                      Re: Replacement Email Client Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-10-26 13:00 +0100
                        Re: Replacement Email Client Michael <ml@hemathor.de> - 2020-10-26 13:10 +0100
                        Re: Replacement Email Client Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-10-26 15:10 +0100
                          Re: Replacement Email Client Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-10-26 15:20 +0100
                            Re: Replacement Email Client Linux-Fan <Ma_Sys.ma@web.de> - 2020-10-26 15:30 +0100
                            Re: Replacement Email Client Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-10-26 21:50 +0100
                              Re: Replacement Email Client Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-10-26 22:00 +0100
                              Re: Replacement Email Client David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-10-26 22:10 +0100
                          Re: Replacement Email Client "Jeremy Nicoll" <jn.ml.dbn.25@letterboxes.org> - 2020-10-26 15:30 +0100
                            Re: Replacement Email Client Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-10-26 16:30 +0100
                    Re: Replacement Email Client Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 23:50 +0100
                      Re: Replacement Email Client <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-10-27 09:20 +0100
                        Re: Replacement Email Client Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-10-27 12:50 +0100
              Re: Replacement Email Client Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 23:20 +0100
                Re: Replacement Email Client Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2020-10-27 02:30 +0100
                  Re: Replacement Email Client Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-10-27 10:00 +0100
                  Re: Replacement Email Client Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-10-27 21:50 +0100
                    Re: Replacement Email Client Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-10-27 22:10 +0100
                      Re: Replacement Email Client "Jeremy Nicoll" <jn.ml.dbn.25@letterboxes.org> - 2020-10-27 23:30 +0100
                        Re: Replacement Email Client David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-10-28 05:10 +0100
                          Re: Replacement Email Client "Jeremy Nicoll" <jn.ml.dbn.25@letterboxes.org> - 2020-10-28 13:50 +0100
                            Re: Replacement Email Client David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-10-29 18:40 +0100
                        Re: Replacement Email Client Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2020-11-03 10:00 +0100
                    Re: Replacement Email Client conover@rahul.net (John Conover) - 2020-10-28 00:20 +0100
                      Re: Replacement Email Client <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-10-28 09:40 +0100
                        Free-services lead to increased RAM and CPU requirements (was: Re: Replacement Email Client) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-10-28 12:20 +0100
                          Re: Free-services lead to increased RAM and CPU requirements (was:  Re: Replacement Email Client) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 12:50 +0100
                          Re: Free-services lead to increased RAM and CPU requirements John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-10-28 14:30 +0100
                            Re: Free-services lead to increased RAM and CPU requirements Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 16:00 +0100
                              Re: Free-services lead to increased RAM and CPU requirements John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-10-28 16:40 +0100
                        Re: Replacement Email Client Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-10-28 13:30 +0100
                          Re: Replacement Email Client John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-10-28 14:40 +0100
                Re: Replacement Email Client Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-10-27 12:50 +0100
                  Re: Replacement Email Client Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-10-27 17:10 +0100
                  Re: Replacement Email Client Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-10-27 17:20 +0100
                    Re: Replacement Email Client John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-10-27 17:40 +0100
                    Re: Replacement Email Client rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-10-27 20:30 +0100
                      Re: Replacement Email Client Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-10-27 22:40 +0100
            Re: Replacement Email Client conover@rahul.net (John Conover) - 2020-10-26 06:00 +0100
        Re: Replacement Email Client Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2020-10-27 14:00 +0100
    Re: Replacement Email Client ghe2001 <ghe2001@pm.me> - 2020-10-25 07:00 +0100
      Re: Replacement Email Client <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-10-25 09:10 +0100
        Re: Replacement Email Client grumpy@mailfence.com - 2020-10-25 11:50 +0100
          Re: Replacement Email Client Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2020-10-25 12:00 +0100
            Re: Replacement Email Client Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2020-10-25 12:10 +0100
              Re: Replacement Email Client Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 05:50 +0100
    Re: Replacement Email Client didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2020-10-25 10:20 +0100
      Re: Replacement Email Client ed <ed-debian@s5h.net> - 2020-10-25 12:20 +0100
      Re: Replacement Email Client Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-10-25 19:00 +0100
        Re: Replacement Email Client didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2020-10-25 20:10 +0100
          Re: Replacement Email Client Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 01:10 +0100
            Re: Replacement Email Client mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 06:50 +0100
            Re: Replacement Email Client <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-10-26 10:50 +0100
    Re: Replacement Email Client Michael <ml@hemathor.de> - 2020-10-25 13:20 +0100
      Re: Replacement Email Client Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-10-25 19:10 +0100

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#228232

Frommick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com>
Date2020-10-26 06:50 +0100
Message-ID<B43yh-2np-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#228225
On 2020-10-26 00:07, Patrick Bartek wrote:
  I have Dillo configured NOT to show images initially. Do that for
> security. Reloading page usually brings them up. It will follow some
> links to other pages, but for viewing purposes only. One cannot
> interact and transmit data as I need to.  I have to use a real browser
> for that. And that means logging in through the browser to that
> particular email account.

I think this is what is confusing people ( having to logon to gmail to 
see the HTML)
The email you receive has the text and the HTML stored as a file on your 
computer.
You organise the mail reader to process the HTML or not.
I don't know why everybody doesn't use Dovecot/Dovecot-sieve/roundcube 
=o)

mick

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#228233

From<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date2020-10-26 10:50 +0100
Message-ID<B47ix-4Dl-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#228225

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On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 05:07:05PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:

[...]

> [...] One cannot interact and transmit data as I need to.

I think this is the core of the problem. Up to now you haven't taken
up the job to specify what that means: in the context of the Web, this
covers a broad field:

 - if it's the traditional GET/POST dance, possibly slinging around
   a couple of cookies, I'm pretty sure Dillo is up to the task;

 - if it involves Javascript (and many pages do, the stupid Web
   frameworks nearly force developers to!), then I don't know
   whether Dillo has a Javascript engine built in (if it has, I
   guess it is borrowed from somewhere, because no "normal" entity
   is able to survive the arm's race imposed by Da Googla (heck,
   even Microsoft gave in). But then, you're into full-grown
   Web browser territory anyway.

As it stands, your request reminds me of those customer requirements
à la "it has to work exactly as application X". It's a starting point,
but if the customer and me don't manage to advance significantly from
there, I usually decline the gig.

Cheers
 - t

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#228196

FromMichael <ml@hemathor.de>
Date2020-10-25 13:20 +0100
Message-ID<B3Naa-Wu-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#228171
On Sunday, October 25, 2020 1:04:00 AM CEST, Patrick Bartek wrote:

> Any suggestions?  

since this is a debian user mailinglist, my answer will be slightly off 
topic.

but i use 'trojita' (https://trojita.flaska.net) as a pure and simple imap 
based email client. but it is not in the debian repositories.

it does only one thing: handling email of one single imap account, but it 
does it well enough for me, so i stick with it. i don't like the other 
bloatware out there (kmail, thunderbird, claws-mail, etc.).

maybe it's worth a shot. ymmv

but, as with any software, there are also some negative aspects:
- state of development ist unclear (to me)
- as is any kind of support
- it is based on qt, so you will need rudimentary qt support
- reloading a complete mailbox with >100,000 messages results in a crash 
most of the time

greetings...

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#228210

FromPatrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com>
Date2020-10-25 19:10 +0100
Message-ID<B3SCS-4gT-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#228196
On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 13:10:04 +0100
Michael <ml@hemathor.de> wrote:

> On Sunday, October 25, 2020 1:04:00 AM CEST, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> 
> > Any suggestions?    
> 
> since this is a debian user mailinglist, my answer will be slightly
> off topic.
> 
> but i use 'trojita' (https://trojita.flaska.net) as a pure and simple
> imap based email client. but it is not in the debian repositories.

I've heard of it.  Haven't researched it.

> it does only one thing: handling email of one single imap account,
> but it does it well enough for me, so i stick with it. i don't like
> the other bloatware out there (kmail, thunderbird, claws-mail, etc.).

I have multiple imap email accounts.  If it can only handle a single
account, will be unsuitable.

> maybe it's worth a shot. ymmv
> 
>

Thanks

B

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