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  Replacement Email Client Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-10-25 01:10 +0200
    Re: Replacement Email Client Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-10-25 01:40 +0200
      Re: Replacement Email Client Ed <ed-debian@s5h.net> - 2020-10-25 09:00 +0100
        Re: Replacement Email Client Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-10-25 15:10 +0100
          Re: Replacement Email Client Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-10-25 15:20 +0100
        Re: Replacement Email Client David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-10-25 15:20 +0100
    Re: Replacement Email Client Leslie Rhorer <lesrhorer@att.net> - 2020-10-25 02:00 +0100
      Re: Replacement Email Client Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-10-25 18:30 +0100
    Re: Replacement Email Client Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-10-25 03:00 +0100
      Re: Replacement Email Client Keith Bainbridge <ke1thozgroups@gmx.com> - 2020-10-25 07:30 +0100
        Re: Replacement Email Client Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-10-25 16:00 +0100
      Re: Replacement Email Client Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-10-25 18:30 +0100
    Re: Replacement Email Client Mark Allums <maa@allums.com> - 2020-10-25 04:40 +0100
    Re: Replacement Email Client Oliver Schoede <oliver.schode@online.de> - 2020-10-25 06:00 +0100
      Re: Replacement Email Client Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-10-25 18:30 +0100
    Re: Replacement Email Client Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2020-10-25 06:30 +0100
      Re: Replacement Email Client John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-10-25 14:40 +0100
        Re: Replacement Email Client <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-10-25 15:00 +0100
      Re: Replacement Email Client Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-10-25 18:40 +0100
        Re: Replacement Email Client John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-10-25 20:10 +0100
          Re: Replacement Email Client Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2020-10-25 21:20 +0100
            Re: Replacement Email Client "Jeremy Nicoll" <jn.ml.dbn.25@letterboxes.org> - 2020-10-25 21:40 +0100
              Re: Replacement Email Client Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2020-10-25 22:10 +0100
          Re: Replacement Email Client Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 01:30 +0100
            Re: Replacement Email Client Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2020-10-26 01:50 +0100
              Re: Replacement Email Client John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-10-26 02:20 +0100
                Re: Replacement Email Client Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2020-10-26 02:50 +0100
                  Re: Replacement Email Client Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-10-26 03:00 +0100
                    Re: Replacement Email Client Michael <ml@hemathor.de> - 2020-10-26 12:40 +0100
                      Re: Replacement Email Client Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-10-26 13:00 +0100
                        Re: Replacement Email Client Michael <ml@hemathor.de> - 2020-10-26 13:10 +0100
                        Re: Replacement Email Client Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-10-26 15:10 +0100
                          Re: Replacement Email Client Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-10-26 15:20 +0100
                            Re: Replacement Email Client Linux-Fan <Ma_Sys.ma@web.de> - 2020-10-26 15:30 +0100
                            Re: Replacement Email Client Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-10-26 21:50 +0100
                              Re: Replacement Email Client Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-10-26 22:00 +0100
                              Re: Replacement Email Client David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-10-26 22:10 +0100
                          Re: Replacement Email Client "Jeremy Nicoll" <jn.ml.dbn.25@letterboxes.org> - 2020-10-26 15:30 +0100
                            Re: Replacement Email Client Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-10-26 16:30 +0100
                    Re: Replacement Email Client Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 23:50 +0100
                      Re: Replacement Email Client <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-10-27 09:20 +0100
                        Re: Replacement Email Client Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-10-27 12:50 +0100
              Re: Replacement Email Client Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 23:20 +0100
                Re: Replacement Email Client Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2020-10-27 02:30 +0100
                  Re: Replacement Email Client Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-10-27 10:00 +0100
                  Re: Replacement Email Client Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-10-27 21:50 +0100
                    Re: Replacement Email Client Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-10-27 22:10 +0100
                      Re: Replacement Email Client "Jeremy Nicoll" <jn.ml.dbn.25@letterboxes.org> - 2020-10-27 23:30 +0100
                        Re: Replacement Email Client David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-10-28 05:10 +0100
                          Re: Replacement Email Client "Jeremy Nicoll" <jn.ml.dbn.25@letterboxes.org> - 2020-10-28 13:50 +0100
                            Re: Replacement Email Client David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-10-29 18:40 +0100
                        Re: Replacement Email Client Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2020-11-03 10:00 +0100
                    Re: Replacement Email Client conover@rahul.net (John Conover) - 2020-10-28 00:20 +0100
                      Re: Replacement Email Client <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-10-28 09:40 +0100
                        Free-services lead to increased RAM and CPU requirements (was: Re: Replacement Email Client) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-10-28 12:20 +0100
                          Re: Free-services lead to increased RAM and CPU requirements (was:  Re: Replacement Email Client) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 12:50 +0100
                          Re: Free-services lead to increased RAM and CPU requirements John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-10-28 14:30 +0100
                            Re: Free-services lead to increased RAM and CPU requirements Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 16:00 +0100
                              Re: Free-services lead to increased RAM and CPU requirements John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-10-28 16:40 +0100
                        Re: Replacement Email Client Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-10-28 13:30 +0100
                          Re: Replacement Email Client John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-10-28 14:40 +0100
                Re: Replacement Email Client Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-10-27 12:50 +0100
                  Re: Replacement Email Client Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-10-27 17:10 +0100
                  Re: Replacement Email Client Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-10-27 17:20 +0100
                    Re: Replacement Email Client John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-10-27 17:40 +0100
                    Re: Replacement Email Client rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-10-27 20:30 +0100
                      Re: Replacement Email Client Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-10-27 22:40 +0100
            Re: Replacement Email Client conover@rahul.net (John Conover) - 2020-10-26 06:00 +0100
        Re: Replacement Email Client Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2020-10-27 14:00 +0100
    Re: Replacement Email Client ghe2001 <ghe2001@pm.me> - 2020-10-25 07:00 +0100
      Re: Replacement Email Client <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-10-25 09:10 +0100
        Re: Replacement Email Client grumpy@mailfence.com - 2020-10-25 11:50 +0100
          Re: Replacement Email Client Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2020-10-25 12:00 +0100
            Re: Replacement Email Client Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2020-10-25 12:10 +0100
              Re: Replacement Email Client Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 05:50 +0100
    Re: Replacement Email Client didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2020-10-25 10:20 +0100
      Re: Replacement Email Client ed <ed-debian@s5h.net> - 2020-10-25 12:20 +0100
      Re: Replacement Email Client Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-10-25 19:00 +0100
        Re: Replacement Email Client didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2020-10-25 20:10 +0100
          Re: Replacement Email Client Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 01:10 +0100
            Re: Replacement Email Client mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 06:50 +0100
            Re: Replacement Email Client <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-10-26 10:50 +0100
    Re: Replacement Email Client Michael <ml@hemathor.de> - 2020-10-25 13:20 +0100
      Re: Replacement Email Client Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-10-25 19:10 +0100

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#228171 — Replacement Email Client

Hi! All,

Looking for recommendations for a lightweight email client that will
handle HTML as well as plain text to replace Claws-Mail.  Have been
using Claws-Mail for years and before it Sylpheed.  Claws used to have
a basic HTML plugin renderer which was sufficient, but latest version
does not. And I'm getting more and more important emails in HTML where
just the plain text is insufficient to fully read the email.  That is,
text in (or as) images contain some (or much) of the content, etc.
Also, hate accessing email through a browser. So that option is out.

Both Thunderbird and Balsa have been rejected as T'bird is a behemoth
and no longer in development; and with Balsa, I don't want to have to
deal with GNOME-systemd, etc. dependencies. (I don't run GNOME anyway,
only a window manager Openbox, and use sysvinit and not systemd as
init.)

Any suggestions?  

Thanks

B

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#228172

Patrick Bartek wrote: 
> 
> Hi! All,
> 
> Looking for recommendations for a lightweight email client that will
> handle HTML as well as plain text to replace Claws-Mail.  Have been
> using Claws-Mail for years and before it Sylpheed.  Claws used to have
> a basic HTML plugin renderer which was sufficient, but latest version
> does not. And I'm getting more and more important emails in HTML where
> just the plain text is insufficient to fully read the email.  That is,
> text in (or as) images contain some (or much) of the content, etc.
> Also, hate accessing email through a browser. So that option is out.
> 
> Both Thunderbird and Balsa have been rejected as T'bird is a behemoth
> and no longer in development; and with Balsa, I don't want to have to
> deal with GNOME-systemd, etc. dependencies. (I don't run GNOME anyway,
> only a window manager Openbox, and use sysvinit and not systemd as
> init.)
> 
> Any suggestions?  

mutt, with a mailcap that includes:

text/html;      /usr/bin/firefox %s;test=test -n "$DISPLAY"; needsterminal;

and a .muttrc that includes:

auto_view text/html 
alternative_order text/plain text/enriched text/html  

that gets you a fast, sane mail client which will pop a message into
Firefox should you want to view it that way. (Hit "v" while looking
at the normal version of the message.  Nothing is going to render HTML
better than a browser.


-dsr-

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#228181

On 2020-10-24 19:35-0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
> > Any suggestions?  
> 
> mutt, with a mailcap that includes:

+1 for mutt.

> X-Message-Flag: Cannot contact reaper.nsa.gov. Trying bucket.cia.gov..
> X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett

Thanks for the laugh :) but not sure which client you're using ...

> that gets you a fast, sane mail client which will pop a message into
> Firefox should you want to view it that way. (Hit "v" while looking
> at the normal version of the message.  Nothing is going to render HTML
> better than a browser.

True. But something makes me itchy about loading spam HTML from 
anywhere, especially if it is one of those ransomware mails.

Ed

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#228199

Ed wrote: 
> On 2020-10-24 19:35-0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
> > > Any suggestions?  
> > 
> > mutt, with a mailcap that includes:
> 
> +1 for mutt.
> 
> > X-Message-Flag: Cannot contact reaper.nsa.gov. Trying bucket.cia.gov..
> > X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett
> 
> Thanks for the laugh :) but not sure which client you're using ...
 
I'm using mutt on desktops and laptops, K9 on Android devices,
and once in a great while Rainloop for some very particular
situations.

> > that gets you a fast, sane mail client which will pop a message into
> > Firefox should you want to view it that way. (Hit "v" while looking
> > at the normal version of the message.  Nothing is going to render HTML
> > better than a browser.
> 
> True. But something makes me itchy about loading spam HTML from 
> anywhere, especially if it is one of those ransomware mails.

And that should make you itchy, yes. w3m or lynx are a better
choice there.

-dsr-

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#228200

Dan Ritter wrote: 
> Ed wrote: 
> > On 2020-10-24 19:35-0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
> > > mutt, with a mailcap that includes:
> > 
> > +1 for mutt.
> > 
> > > X-Message-Flag: Cannot contact reaper.nsa.gov. Trying bucket.cia.gov..
> > > X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett
> > 
> > Thanks for the laugh :) but not sure which client you're using ...
>  
> I'm using mutt on desktops and laptops, K9 on Android devices,
> and once in a great while Rainloop for some very particular
> situations.

Oh, and the X-Message-Flag: does absolutely nothing on most mail
clients, but Outlook will (or used to) scroll that header across the
bottom of the window when reading the message.

I haven't had an outraged email in a year or two; maybe they've
finally plugged that? Come to think of it, I got the attention
of someone senior working at Microsoft in that last bout.

-dsr-

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#228201

On Sun 25 Oct 2020 at 07:47:33 (+0000), Ed wrote:
> On 2020-10-24 19:35-0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
> > > Any suggestions?  
> > 
> > mutt, with a mailcap that includes:
> 
> +1 for mutt.
> 
> > X-Message-Flag: Cannot contact reaper.nsa.gov. Trying bucket.cia.gov..
> > X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett
> 
> Thanks for the laugh :) but not sure which client you're using ...
> 
> > that gets you a fast, sane mail client which will pop a message into
> > Firefox should you want to view it that way. (Hit "v" while looking
> > at the normal version of the message.  Nothing is going to render HTML
> > better than a browser.
> 
> True. But something makes me itchy about loading spam HTML from 
> anywhere, especially if it is one of those ransomware mails.

You could consider changing the line suggested for mailcap to

  text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -force-html -localhost -stdin

This will render the HTML when desired, and you can list the links,
but they can't be followed.

Cheers,
David.

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#228173

On 10/24/2020 6:04 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> 
> Hi! All,
> 
> Looking for recommendations for a lightweight email client that will
> handle HTML as well as plain text

	I want to know that, myself.

> deal with GNOME-systemd, etc. dependencies. (I don't run GNOME anyway,
> only a window manager Openbox, and use sysvinit and not systemd as

	I don't run Gnome, either, but I did take the plunge and learn enough 
about systemd to get along.  I still don't like it, and it remains a 
very obtuse system designed to do things that fail to impress me.  It 
seems it may be inevitable to become universal.  <sigh>

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#228203

On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 19:50:14 -0500
Leslie Rhorer <lesrhorer@att.net> wrote:

> On 10/24/2020 6:04 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > 
> > Hi! All,
> > 
> > Looking for recommendations for a lightweight email client that will
> > handle HTML as well as plain text  
> 
> 	I want to know that, myself.
> 
> > deal with GNOME-systemd, etc. dependencies. (I don't run GNOME
> > anyway, only a window manager Openbox, and use sysvinit and not
> > systemd as  
> 
> 	I don't run Gnome, either, but I did take the plunge and
> learn enough about systemd to get along.  I still don't like it, and
> it remains a very obtuse system designed to do things that fail to
> impress me.  It seems it may be inevitable to become universal.
> <sigh>

As long as there are those who don't want systemd, someone out there
will fill that need. That's why Devuan exists (and some others).

I've been testing Devuan Beowulf (Buster) with the Openbox window
manager (my normal configuration) for several weeks now and it's stable,
has all the apps that Debian does. Works just fine without systemd. So,
it can be done. Time will tell.

B 

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#228174

On Saturday 24 October 2020 19:04:00 Patrick Bartek wrote:

> Hi! All,
>
> Looking for recommendations for a lightweight email client that will
> handle HTML as well as plain text to replace Claws-Mail.  Have been
> using Claws-Mail for years and before it Sylpheed.  Claws used to have
> a basic HTML plugin renderer which was sufficient, but latest version
> does not. And I'm getting more and more important emails in HTML where
> just the plain text is insufficient to fully read the email.  That is,
> text in (or as) images contain some (or much) of the content, etc.
> Also, hate accessing email through a browser. So that option is out.
>
> Both Thunderbird and Balsa have been rejected as T'bird is a behemoth
> and no longer in development; and with Balsa, I don't want to have to
> deal with GNOME-systemd, etc. dependencies. (I don't run GNOME anyway,
> only a window manager Openbox, and use sysvinit and not systemd as
> init.)
>
> Any suggestions?
>
Yes, kmail, as supplied NOT from KDE but from TDE. Its the older kmail 
with all but one bug fixed that KDE never fixed.  That "bug" is the 
number of messages it can store in a given maildir folder has the signed 
32 bit limit or 32766 messages.  On a busy mailing list, it can exceed 
that number of messages in a year, but I've been renaming the folders to 
a subdir incorporating the year for the last 2 years and have had no 
further problems.  Some of my busy and more valuable folders go back to 
2002.

TDE is itself a fork of KDE-3.5, and is still under quite active 
development, yet dead stable. But don't be surprised if you've not 
updated for a week or so, to see synaptic pull in 100 or more updated 
packages if you have the whole R14 release installed. But did I mention 
stable?, this machine, while being kept up to date with all that churn, 
still has a current uptime of 81 days and counting. But I'll not 
recommend it on smaller machines, this is an Asus X370 mainboard with a 
6 core i5, and 32 gigs of ram.

I am running TDE on two machines out of 5 here, the other machine is much 
less well endowed, only a 60GB SSD, and only 2GB of dram. It runs just 
fine but it only has one real job, running a 4 axis milling machine in 
real time.  That it does very well. But it doesn't have a UPS so its 
uptime is about 19 hours as we had a 2 second or less power failure at 
2:30 AM this morning that rebooted the 3 w/o a UPS. Not long enough to 
auto-start my 20kw generator.

> Thanks
>
> B


Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#228180

On 25/10/20 12:52 pm, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Both Thunderbird and Balsa have been rejected as T'bird is a behemoth
> and no longer in development;


Ummmmm.   Why then am I getting new versions every few weeks?
Currently 83.0a1.  Sure it's bigger than claws, but many processes are
easier in day to day operation.

--
Keith Bainbridge

ke1thozgroups@gmx.com

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#228202

On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 17:22:35 +1100
Keith Bainbridge <ke1thozgroups@gmx.com> wrote:

> On 25/10/20 12:52 pm, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Both Thunderbird and Balsa have been rejected as T'bird is a
> > behemoth and no longer in development;  
> 
> 
> Ummmmm.   Why then am I getting new versions every few weeks?
> Currently 83.0a1.  Sure it's bigger than claws, but many processes are
> easier in day to day operation.

Mozilla has ceased the development; however, it is still "supported" --
security, bug fixes? -- but privately.  Maybe, a group other than
Mozilla has taken over development.  Don't know.

B

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#228205

On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 21:52:54 -0400
Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:

> On Saturday 24 October 2020 19:04:00 Patrick Bartek wrote:
> 
> > Hi! All,
> >
> > Looking for recommendations for a lightweight email client that will
> > handle HTML as well as plain text to replace Claws-Mail.  Have been
> > using Claws-Mail for years and before it Sylpheed.  Claws used to
> > have a basic HTML plugin renderer which was sufficient, but latest
> > version does not. And I'm getting more and more important emails in
> > HTML where just the plain text is insufficient to fully read the
> > email.  That is, text in (or as) images contain some (or much) of
> > the content, etc. Also, hate accessing email through a browser. So
> > that option is out.
> >
> > Both Thunderbird and Balsa have been rejected as T'bird is a
> > behemoth and no longer in development; and with Balsa, I don't want
> > to have to deal with GNOME-systemd, etc. dependencies. (I don't run
> > GNOME anyway, only a window manager Openbox, and use sysvinit and
> > not systemd as init.)
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >  
> Yes, kmail, as supplied NOT from KDE but from TDE. Its the older
> 

I'll look into it.

B

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#228175

> Both Thunderbird and Balsa have been rejected as T'bird is a behemoth
> and no longer in development;
Thunderbird has been spun off from Mozilla, and is actively being 
developed.  The thing is still pretty fat, but they recently added 
support for PGP/GPG encryption built-in.  I wouldn't outright dismiss it 
as a possibility.


Mark

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#228176

On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 16:04:00 -0700
Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>Looking for recommendations for a lightweight email client that will
>handle HTML as well as plain text to replace Claws-Mail.  Have been
>using Claws-Mail for years and before it Sylpheed.  Claws used to have
>a basic HTML plugin renderer which was sufficient, but latest version
>does not.

I didn't even know it was gone, but apparently 3.17.7 just
(re)introduced a light viewer duly taking care of people who need it.
LiteHTML. It's packaged as claws-mail-litehtml-viewer, can't say if
it's any good, there are other options though. Even something
based on Dillo! ;) Not bad for a project with a different set of
priorities. Don't like a plugin? Feeling more like using behemoth
Firefox ('hate accessing mail through a browser'):

Config -> Preferences -> Message View -> External Programs

Not really a new feature either nor scratching CM's surface, but you
surely knew that too. I'm a CLI/TUI/oldskool devotee myself yet Mutt is
one of those things I never got around learning. Takes some time. Only
to fire up FF whenever you want to see a picture. Well I guess people
are different and some always have a browser flinging around anyway. See
what works for you.


Oliver

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#228204

On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 05:55:02 +0100
Oliver Schoede <oliver.schode@online.de> wrote:

> On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 16:04:00 -0700
> Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> >Looking for recommendations for a lightweight email client that will
> >handle HTML as well as plain text to replace Claws-Mail.  Have been
> >using Claws-Mail for years and before it Sylpheed.  Claws used to
> >have a basic HTML plugin renderer which was sufficient, but latest
> >version does not.  
> 
> I didn't even know it was gone, but apparently 3.17.7 just
> (re)introduced a light viewer duly taking care of people who need it.
> LiteHTML. It's packaged as claws-mail-litehtml-viewer, can't say if
> it's any good, there are other options though. Even something
> based on Dillo! ;) Not bad for a project with a different set of
> priorities. Don't like a plugin? Feeling more like using behemoth
> Firefox ('hate accessing mail through a browser'):
> 
> Config -> Preferences -> Message View -> External Programs
> 
> [snip]

I need more than just an HTML viewer.  I have dillo set up for that. It
is the default with the install. I need to be able to interact with the
HTML email without having to login via a browser to do so which I've
grown tired of.

Thanks for your reply.

B

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#228178

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* 2020-10-24 16:04:00-07, Patrick Bartek wrote:

> Looking for recommendations for a lightweight email client that will
> handle HTML as well as plain text to replace Claws-Mail.  Have been
> using Claws-Mail for years and before it Sylpheed.

GNU Emacs mail clients "Gnus" and "Notmuch Emacs" automatically render
HTML mail nicely as plain text. User can can also open HTML and other
MIME parts in external viewer like web browser.

-- 
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#228197

Teemu Likonen writes: 
> GNU Emacs mail clients "Gnus" and "Notmuch Emacs" automatically render
> HTML mail nicely as plain text. User can can also open HTML and other
> MIME parts in external viewer like web browser.

I thought of suggesting Gnus as well, but that usually results in
horrified outcries of "Eww! Emacs!"
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#228198

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On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 08:34:52AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Teemu Likonen writes: 
> > GNU Emacs mail clients "Gnus" and "Notmuch Emacs" automatically render
> > HTML mail nicely as plain text. User can can also open HTML and other
> > MIME parts in external viewer like web browser.
> 
> I thought of suggesting Gnus as well, but that usually results in
> horrified outcries of "Eww! Emacs!"

But only from know-nothings :)

Cheers
 - t

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#228208

On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 07:19:28 +0200
Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> wrote:

> * 2020-10-24 16:04:00-07, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> 
> > Looking for recommendations for a lightweight email client that will
> > handle HTML as well as plain text to replace Claws-Mail.  Have been
> > using Claws-Mail for years and before it Sylpheed.  
> 
> GNU Emacs mail clients "Gnus" and "Notmuch Emacs" automatically render
> HTML mail nicely as plain text. User can can also open HTML and other
> MIME parts in external viewer like web browser.
> 

I can already view the text of HTML emails with Claws-Mail.  But I need
to view the entire email: images, graphics, etc. and be able to interact
with all the links, etc. and not just view them.  Want to get away from
having to login to the mail account with a browser to do so.  So, EMACS
won't work for me.

Thanks for your suggestion.

B

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#228211

Patrick Bartek writes:
> But I need to view the entire email: images, graphics, etc. and be
> able to interact with all the links, etc. and not just view them.
> Want to get away from having to login to the mail account with a
> browser to do so.  So, EMACS won't work for me.

Log in to what mail account?  Gnus calls the browser and passes the HTML
attachment to it.  No logging in involved.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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