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Running HGST's DFT utility from a flash drive

Started byCelejar <celejar@gmail.com>
First post2020-10-20 19:20 +0200
Last post2020-10-22 16:10 +0200
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  Running HGST's DFT utility from a flash drive Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-10-20 19:20 +0200
    Re: Running HGST's DFT utility from a flash drive Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-10-20 19:50 +0200
      Re: Running HGST's DFT utility from a flash drive Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-10-21 03:20 +0200
        Re: Running HGST's DFT utility from a flash drive Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-10-21 08:00 +0200
          Re: Running HGST's DFT utility from a flash drive Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-10-21 15:10 +0200
            Re: Running HGST's DFT utility from a flash drive Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-10-21 17:10 +0200
          Re: Running HGST's DFT utility from a flash drive Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-10-21 17:10 +0200
            Re: Running HGST's DFT utility from a flash drive Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-10-21 17:20 +0200
              Re: Running HGST's DFT utility from a flash drive Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-10-21 19:00 +0200
                Re: Running HGST's DFT utility from a flash drive Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-10-21 19:10 +0200
                  Re: Running HGST's DFT utility from a flash drive Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-10-21 19:50 +0200
                    Re: Running HGST's DFT utility from a flash drive Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-10-21 20:10 +0200
                      Re: Running HGST's DFT utility from a flash drive Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-10-21 20:20 +0200
                        Re: Running HGST's DFT utility from a flash drive Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-10-21 20:30 +0200
                      Re: Running HGST's DFT utility from a flash drive Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2020-10-21 23:00 +0200
                        Re: Running HGST's DFT utility from a flash drive Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-10-22 03:40 +0200
            Re: Running HGST's DFT utility from a flash drive David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2020-10-21 23:50 +0200
              Re: Running HGST's DFT utility from a flash drive David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2020-10-22 01:40 +0200
                Re: Running HGST's DFT utility from a flash drive Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-10-23 14:40 +0200
              Re: Running HGST's DFT utility from a flash drive David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2020-10-22 03:40 +0200
              Re: Running HGST's DFT utility from a flash drive Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-10-22 03:40 +0200
    Re: Running HGST's DFT utility from a flash drive Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-10-20 21:30 +0200
      Re: Running HGST's DFT utility from a flash drive Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-10-21 02:40 +0200
    Re: Running HGST's DFT utility from a flash drive Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-10-22 15:50 +0200
      Re: Running HGST's DFT utility from a flash drive Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-10-22 16:10 +0200

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#228094

FromCelejar <celejar@gmail.com>
Date2020-10-22 03:40 +0200
Message-ID<B2xK9-4F5-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#228088
On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 08:45:59 +1100
David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 at 02:04, Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I poked around a bit, but was unable to get anything to run:
> >
> > 'dir' shows two files: DFT-V300.EXE and LOADDFT.EXE. The latter
> > returns: "Error: Missing parameter." The former returns:
> >
> > PKSFX (R) FAST! Self Extract Utility Version 2.50 03-01-1999
> > Copr. 1989-1999 PKWARE Inc. All Rights Reserved. Registered Version
> > PKSFX Reg. U.S. Pat. and Tm. Off.
> >
> > Searching EXE: A:/DFT/DFT-V300.EXE
> >         Inflating: CleanDsk.PID
> >         Inflating: CleanMBR.PID
> >         Inflating: DFT.EXE
> > PXSFX: (E50) Disk Full, file: *
> >
> > A:\DFT>
> >
> > I switched to disk B: 'dir' shows four files: the two in A:, and
> > CLEANDSK.PID and CLEANMBR.PID. Running DFT-v300 gives the same error
> > (after warnings about overwriting the two *.PID files), and running
> > LOADDFT also gives the same error as above.
> >
> > I understand that no one here can be expected to support this
> > ridiculously crufty proprietary closed source software. I'm just
> > wondering whether there's any FLOSS solution to emulate the actual
> > environment the thing expects closely enough for it to work.
> 
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 at 05:07, Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> wrote:
> 
> > But I suspect that we now know why the DFT utility can't see it:
> > because DOS can't see it, because DOS doesn't have any SATA
> > support. The best that can be done is providing a virtualized
> > interface, and that won't let you interrogate the disk.
> 
> Hmmm. That error message from LOADDFT.EXE and its name
> makes me suspect that LOADDFT.EXE could possibly be the
> driver that needs to be loaded before running DFT-V300.EXE.
> 
> At a guess, I would try adding something like
>   DEVICE=LOADDFT.EXE
> to your CONFIG.SYS file. [1]
> 
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CONFIG.SYS

Thanks. I think I'm done with wasting time on this silly thing, but
FWIW, LOADDFT does not appear in the CONFIG.SYS shipped with the DFT
tool, but it is called by its AUTOEXEC.BAT in its final line:

LOADDFT.EXE DFT-V300.EXE DFT.EXE /!BLOB /PSR >NUL

I tried running this line from the DOS prompt, and it threw some error
about the RAMDRIVE, but that's probably because I was running it from
the FreeDos environment, rather than the DFT one.

Celejar

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#228037

FromStefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Date2020-10-20 21:30 +0200
Message-ID<B25uy-4Aj-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#228032
> HGST provides an ISO meant for burning to CD, and an IMG meant for
> burning to floppy disk. I don't have writable CDs or a floppy drive, so
> I'm trying to get the software to run off a USB flash drive. I've tried
> so many different things and wasted so much time, but have still not
> succeeded:

Have you tried the simple trick of using `grub-imageboot`?
I.e. after installing the package, put the .iso file into
/boot/images and dong `update-grub`.

It's bit hit or miss for me (used it for Thinkpad BIOS upgrades), but
I always managed to make it work in the end (sometimes after cobbling
up my own .iso out of various other .iso, not knowing quite what I was
doing).


        Stefan

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#228044

FromCelejar <celejar@gmail.com>
Date2020-10-21 02:40 +0200
Message-ID<B2akx-7pZ-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#228037
On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 15:22:20 -0400
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:

> > HGST provides an ISO meant for burning to CD, and an IMG meant for
> > burning to floppy disk. I don't have writable CDs or a floppy drive, so
> > I'm trying to get the software to run off a USB flash drive. I've tried
> > so many different things and wasted so much time, but have still not
> > succeeded:
> 
> Have you tried the simple trick of using `grub-imageboot`?
> I.e. after installing the package, put the .iso file into
> /boot/images and dong `update-grub`.
> 
> It's bit hit or miss for me (used it for Thinkpad BIOS upgrades), but
> I always managed to make it work in the end (sometimes after cobbling
> up my own .iso out of various other .iso, not knowing quite what I was
> doing).

Thanks for the suggestion. I tried it, but it did not work - when I
select the options from the GRUB menu, the screen just goes black and
stays that way. (I tried with just 'update-grub', and with ISOOPTS="iso
raw", as per here:

https://askubuntu.com/questions/24903/how-to-boot-from-an-iso-file-in-grub2

Celejar

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#228109

FromCurt <curty@free.fr>
Date2020-10-22 15:50 +0200
Message-ID<B2J8B-32w-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#228032
On 2020-10-20, Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm tearing my hair out trying to get HGST's Drive Fitness Test utility
> to run:
>
> https://www1.hgst.com/hdd/support/download.htm#DFT
>
> HGST provides an ISO meant for burning to CD, and an IMG meant for
> burning to floppy disk. I don't have writable CDs or a floppy drive, so
> I'm trying to get the software to run off a USB flash drive. I've tried
> so many different things and wasted so much time, but have still not
> succeeded:

I booted it thusly

 qemu-system-x86_64 -boot d -cdrom dft32_v416_b00.iso -m 512


and was presented with the following screen:

 PC DOS 7.0 Startup Menu
 =======================

   1. SCSI and ATA suppport
   2. ATA support only
 
 Enter choice:

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#228112

FromCelejar <celejar@gmail.com>
Date2020-10-22 16:10 +0200
Message-ID<B2JrY-3oj-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#228109
On 22 Oct 2020 13:25:43 GMT
Curt <curty@free.fr> wrote:

> On 2020-10-20, Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm tearing my hair out trying to get HGST's Drive Fitness Test utility
> > to run:
> >
> > https://www1.hgst.com/hdd/support/download.htm#DFT
> >
> > HGST provides an ISO meant for burning to CD, and an IMG meant for
> > burning to floppy disk. I don't have writable CDs or a floppy drive, so
> > I'm trying to get the software to run off a USB flash drive. I've tried
> > so many different things and wasted so much time, but have still not
> > succeeded:
> 
> I booted it thusly
> 
>  qemu-system-x86_64 -boot d -cdrom dft32_v416_b00.iso -m 512
> 
> 
> and was presented with the following screen:
> 
>  PC DOS 7.0 Startup Menu
>  =======================
> 
>    1. SCSI and ATA suppport
>    2. ATA support only
>  
>  Enter choice:

Thanks, but I'm pretty sure I need to get it running on bare metal in
order for it to have low level hardware access to the drives. It can't
hurt to check, though - if you enter '2', let's say, and proceed, will
the utility find and scan the system's disks?

Celejar

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