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Unable to boot into the Gnome desktop after installing Debian Buster 10.4

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  Unable to boot into the Gnome desktop after installing Debian  Buster 10.4 "gajuph4pre@yahoo.com" <gajuph4pre@yahoo.com> - 2020-07-28 22:00 +0200
    Re: Unable to boot into the Gnome desktop after installing Debian  Buster 10.4 riveravaldez <riveravaldezmail@gmail.com> - 2020-07-29 01:30 +0200
    Re: Unable to boot into the Gnome desktop after installing Debian Buster 10.4 "Mick Kent" <mkent@blomand.net> - 2020-07-29 02:30 +0200
    Re: Unable to boot into the Gnome desktop after installing Debian  Buster 10.4 Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-07-29 13:50 +0200
    Re: Unable to boot into the Gnome desktop after installing Debian  Buster 10.4 Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2020-07-29 17:10 +0200
      Re: Unable to boot into the Gnome desktop after installing Debian  Buster 10.4 <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-29 17:40 +0200
        [OT]etiquette  was: Unable to boot into the Gnome desktop after  installing Debian Buster 10.4 Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2020-07-29 18:00 +0200

#225431 — Unable to boot into the Gnome desktop after installing Debian Buster 10.4

From"gajuph4pre@yahoo.com" <gajuph4pre@yahoo.com>
Date2020-07-28 22:00 +0200
SubjectUnable to boot into the Gnome desktop after installing Debian Buster 10.4
Message-ID<AxDVv-70E-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
I chose the option Expert Install when I installed Debian Buster.

I did not install any desktop environment, print server or the standard system utilities offered during installation.

After successfully installing the OS, I rebooted into tty2 and installed the packages named below:

xorg gnome-core gnome-tweak-tool synaptic gedit gdebi file-roller

I did not want a bloated Gnome desktop environment and instead opted for a minimal install of it.

Next I rebooted the OS and there was a list of messages flashing quickly on my screen. All of them were prefixed with [OK] with the word OK in bright green. I assumed there were no errors.

However instead of booting into the Gnome desktop, all I got is a white cursor blinking in the top left hand corner of my screen whose background is black.

I appreciate any help you could give to have the Gnome desktop working.

Useful information

1. Before installing Debian, Secure Boot is enabled in the BIOS.
2. The machine is not connected to the internet during installation.

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#225452

Fromriveravaldez <riveravaldezmail@gmail.com>
Date2020-07-29 01:30 +0200
Message-ID<AxHcJ-Ew-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#225431
On 7/28/20, gajuph4pre@yahoo.com <gajuph4pre@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I chose the option Expert Install when I installed Debian Buster.
>
> I did not install any desktop environment, print server or the standard
> system utilities offered during installation.
>
> After successfully installing the OS, I rebooted into tty2 and installed the
> packages named below:
>
> xorg gnome-core gnome-tweak-tool synaptic gedit gdebi file-roller
>
> I did not want a bloated Gnome desktop environment and instead opted for a
> minimal install of it.
>
> Next I rebooted the OS and there was a list of messages flashing quickly on
> my screen. All of them were prefixed with [OK] with the word OK in bright
> green. I assumed there were no errors.
>
> However instead of booting into the Gnome desktop, all I got is a white
> cursor blinking in the top left hand corner of my screen whose background is
> black.
>
> I appreciate any help you could give to have the Gnome desktop working.
>
> Useful information
>
> 1. Before installing Debian, Secure Boot is enabled in the BIOS.
> 2. The machine is not connected to the internet during installation.

I'm not a GNOME user (and for a minimal DE you probably will be better
with IceWM, openbox+tint2 or LXDE), but you can try:

$ startx

And see if the GUI appears.

Or installing lightdm and rebooting.

Best luck!

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#225457 — Re: Unable to boot into the Gnome desktop after installing Debian Buster 10.4

From"Mick Kent" <mkent@blomand.net>
Date2020-07-29 02:30 +0200
SubjectRe: Unable to boot into the Gnome desktop after installing Debian Buster 10.4
Message-ID<AxI8N-1dL-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#225431
Way down at the bottom of the screen you may see a line with some 
instructions. Hit the one for 'commands' and you will get 'grub' and a 
cursor. I found a list of instructions for 'grub' but they didn't help 
me much. I'm stuck there. Mick

------ Original Message ------
From: "gajuph4pre@yahoo.com" <gajuph4pre@yahoo.com>
To: "debian-user@lists.debian.org" <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Sent: 7/28/2020 2:36:06 PM
Subject: Unable to boot into the Gnome desktop after installing Debian 
Buster 10.4

>I chose the option Expert Install when I installed Debian Buster.
>
>I did not install any desktop environment, print server or the standard system utilities offered during installation.
>
>After successfully installing the OS, I rebooted into tty2 and installed the packages named below:
>
>xorg gnome-core gnome-tweak-tool synaptic gedit gdebi file-roller
>
>I did not want a bloated Gnome desktop environment and instead opted for a minimal install of it.
>
>Next I rebooted the OS and there was a list of messages flashing quickly on my screen. All of them were prefixed with [OK] with the word OK in bright green. I assumed there were no errors.
>
>However instead of booting into the Gnome desktop, all I got is a white cursor blinking in the top left hand corner of my screen whose background is black.
>
>I appreciate any help you could give to have the Gnome desktop working.
>
>Useful information
>
>1. Before installing Debian, Secure Boot is enabled in the BIOS.
>2. The machine is not connected to the internet during installation.
>
>

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#225482

FromGreg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org>
Date2020-07-29 13:50 +0200
Message-ID<AxSKS-7Fz-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#225431
On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 07:36:06PM +0000, gajuph4pre@yahoo.com wrote:
> I did not install any desktop environment, print server or the standard system utilities offered during installation.

> After successfully installing the OS, I rebooted into tty2 and installed the packages named below:
> 
> xorg gnome-core gnome-tweak-tool synaptic gedit gdebi file-roller

> Next I rebooted the OS and there was a list of messages flashing quickly on my screen. All of them were prefixed with [OK] with the word OK in bright green. I assumed there were no errors.

> However instead of booting into the Gnome desktop, all I got is a white cursor blinking in the top left hand corner of my screen whose background is black.

At this point, you don't know whether the problem is down at the X/video
driver/hardware level, or in GNOME.

First things, first: you can boot back into console mode by going into
the GRUB menu, editing the boot command and adding

systemd.unit=multi-user.target

as a boot parameter.  See
<https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/19/html/Installation_Guide/s1-grub-targets.html>
for exact instructions.

Once you're in console mode, you can try to diagnose the hardware and
drivers and firmware, and then test X without involving GNOME or gdm3.

Check your video hardware by running "lspci -nn" and looking for
one or more lines that tell what your video card is.  Take note of
the 8-digit hexadecimal PCI ID(s) from your video devices.  Write
them down on paper.  Use them if you need to investigate deeply.

Look for missing firmware next.  "dmesg | grep -i firmware" will tell
you if there are any firmware files that your system wants to load,
and can't.  If there are missing files, write down their names, and
then use a web search (either packages.debian.org or google) to find
out the name of the firmware packages that contain those files.

You may need to add contrib and non-free to your sources.list to get
the firmware for your devices.

Once firmware is installed, reboot again (still using multi-user.target),
make sure xterm is installed, and then try "startx xterm".  If this gives
you a bare but working X session with only an xterm in the upper left
corner, then congratulations -- you know X works.

(Bare X uses focus-follows-mouse semantics.  You'll need to move the mouse
pointer *into* the xterm to be able to type in it.  Type 'exit' to get
out of it.)

At that point, you can try "startx" by itself, which should try to
run your GNOME session (unless you've installed something else as the
system default x-session-manager).  Or you can start gdm3, if you
installed that.  Or you can reboot without the multi-user.target option.

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#225498

FromHenning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com>
Date2020-07-29 17:10 +0200
Message-ID<AxVSq-1jX-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#225431
On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 07:36:06PM +0000, gajuph4pre@yahoo.com wrote:
> I chose the option Expert Install when I installed Debian Buster.
> 
> I did not install any desktop environment, print server or the standard system utilities offered during installation.
> 
> After successfully installing the OS, I rebooted into tty2 and installed the packages named below:
> 
> xorg gnome-core gnome-tweak-tool synaptic gedit gdebi file-roller
> 
> I did not want a bloated Gnome desktop environment and instead opted for a minimal install of it.
> 
> Next I rebooted the OS and there was a list of messages flashing quickly on my screen. All of them were prefixed with [OK] with the word OK in bright green. I assumed there were no errors.
> 
> However instead of booting into the Gnome desktop, all I got is a white cursor blinking in the top left hand corner of my screen whose background is black.
> 
> I appreciate any help you could give to have the Gnome desktop working.
> 
> Useful information
> 
> 1. Before installing Debian, Secure Boot is enabled in the BIOS.
> 2. The machine is not connected to the internet during installation.
>

Oh jeeez,
somebody again who thinks he is so much smarter than the maintainers packaging a decent OS
for you for free. But not able to read enough documentation to actually pull it off.

Install the gnome desktop enviroment. Yes YOU WANT THAT!


-H


-- 
Henning Follmann           | hfollmann@itcfollmann.com

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#225500

From<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date2020-07-29 17:40 +0200
Message-ID<AxWlt-1tO-35@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#225498

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On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 11:09:26AM -0400, Henning Follmann wrote:

[...]

> Oh jeeez,

[Condescending, borderline-insulting stuff]

Hey, Henning. This is a Debian users mailing list. This ain't twitter.
Go there if you feel the urge to let steam off.

Cheers
-- t

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#225501 — [OT]etiquette was: Unable to boot into the Gnome desktop after installing Debian Buster 10.4

FromHenning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com>
Date2020-07-29 18:00 +0200
Subject[OT]etiquette was: Unable to boot into the Gnome desktop after installing Debian Buster 10.4
Message-ID<AxWEO-1Aw-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#225500
On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 05:31:02PM +0200, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 11:09:26AM -0400, Henning Follmann wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > Oh jeeez,
> 
> [Condescending, borderline-insulting stuff]
> 
> Hey, Henning. This is a Debian users mailing list. This ain't twitter.
> Go there if you feel the urge to let steam off.
>

Alright, I am unfiltered and lack sugarcoating, sure.
However this was insane. Somebody has to tell somebody in no uncertain
terms that they are out of their depth.
He did not want "the bloat" of the gnome desktop. Then he installs
the metapackage gnome which pulls in most of the stuff he says he
wants to avoid. Except it does not pull gdm3. AND he complains
about not having a login screen! This is insane!
Really somebody has to tell him that and that can't be done whithout
hurting his ego (I can't). And the sooner the better. Do not
pamper him in his dilution he can do that. He will not be happy
this way.

Enough from me.

-H



-- 
Henning Follmann           | hfollmann@itcfollmann.com

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