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proper config for specific pks upgrade from stable to testing

Started bydaggs <daggs@gmx.com>
First post2020-07-24 08:40 +0200
Last post2020-07-24 16:50 +0200
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  proper config for specific pks upgrade from stable to testing daggs <daggs@gmx.com> - 2020-07-24 08:40 +0200
    Re: proper config for specific pks upgrade from stable to testing Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-24 11:20 +0200
      Re: proper config for specific pks upgrade from stable to testing daggs <daggs@gmx.com> - 2020-07-24 16:30 +0200
        Re: proper config for specific pks upgrade from stable to testing Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-24 16:50 +0200

#225178 — proper config for specific pks upgrade from stable to testing

Fromdaggs <daggs@gmx.com>
Date2020-07-24 08:40 +0200
Subjectproper config for specific pks upgrade from stable to testing
Message-ID<AvZx8-3Xo-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
Greetings,

I want to upgrade these specific pkgs from stable to testing:
libvirt-clients/stable,now 5.0.0-4+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,upgradable to: 6.4.0-2]
libvirt-daemon-system/stable,now 5.0.0-4+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,upgradable to: 6.4.0-2]
libvirt-daemon/stable,now 5.0.0-4+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,upgradable to: 6.4.0-2]
libvirt0/stable,now 5.0.0-4+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,upgradable to: 6.4.0-2]
qemu-kvm/stable,now 1:3.1+dfsg-8+deb10u6 amd64 [installed,upgradable to: 1:5.0-6]

so I've updated my files as such:
# cat /etc/apt/preferences
Package: qemu-kvm
Pin: release o=Debian,a=testing
Pin-Priority: 900

Package: libvirt-clients
Pin: release o=Debian,a=testing
Pin-Priority: 900

Package: libvirt-daemon-system
Pin: release o=Debian,a=testing
Pin-Priority: 900

Package: libvirt-daemon
Pin: release o=Debian,a=testing
Pin-Priority: 900

Package: libvirt0
Pin: release o=Debian,a=testing
Pin-Priority: 900

# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main
deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-backports main
deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-backports main
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main non-free
deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main non-free
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ testing-updates main
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security testing-security main

but when I issue upt-get upgrade, it looks like apt tries to upgrade unrelated pkgs like lsb-release, lsof and grub.
is that expected?
I want to upgrade only these pkgs + it's deps.
what am I doing wrong?

Thanks,

Dagg.

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#225181

FromAndrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
Date2020-07-24 11:20 +0200
Message-ID<Aw21Y-5x1-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#225178

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On Vi, 24 iul 20, 08:37:52, daggs wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> I want to upgrade these specific pkgs from stable to testing:
> libvirt-clients/stable,now 5.0.0-4+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,upgradable to: 6.4.0-2]
> libvirt-daemon-system/stable,now 5.0.0-4+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,upgradable to: 6.4.0-2]
> libvirt-daemon/stable,now 5.0.0-4+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,upgradable to: 6.4.0-2]
> libvirt0/stable,now 5.0.0-4+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,upgradable to: 6.4.0-2]
> qemu-kvm/stable,now 1:3.1+dfsg-8+deb10u6 amd64 [installed,upgradable to: 1:5.0-6]
 
Not available in buster-backports. Did you investigate why? The archives 
of the debian-backports list might be a good start.

> so I've updated my files as such:
> # cat /etc/apt/preferences
> Package: qemu-kvm
> Pin: release o=Debian,a=testing
> Pin-Priority: 900
> 
> Package: libvirt-clients
> Pin: release o=Debian,a=testing
> Pin-Priority: 900
> 
> Package: libvirt-daemon-system
> Pin: release o=Debian,a=testing
> Pin-Priority: 900
> 
> Package: libvirt-daemon
> Pin: release o=Debian,a=testing
> Pin-Priority: 900
> 
> Package: libvirt0
> Pin: release o=Debian,a=testing
> Pin-Priority: 900

With only these pins the rest of testing is priority 500, same as 
stable. Probably not what you want.

> # cat /etc/apt/sources.list
> deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main
> deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main
> deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main
> deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main
> deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-backports main
> deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-backports main
> deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main non-free
> deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main non-free
> deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ testing-updates main
> deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free
> deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security testing-security main
> 
> but when I issue upt-get upgrade, it looks like apt tries to upgrade unrelated pkgs like lsb-release, lsof and grub.
> is that expected?

Most likely because testing now has the same priority as stable,
'apt policy' will tell.

> I want to upgrade only these pkgs + it's deps.
> what am I doing wrong?

You are trying to mix releases - which is inherently dangerous - without 
a proper understanding of pinning and priorities.


If you insist on doing that I would recommend you replicate the 
configuration for -backports.

1. pin 'testing' to 100
2. try installing the package you really need[*] with
    
    apt install -t PACKAGE1 PACKAGE2


Note: always check your pinning configuration with 'apt policy' and/or 
'apt policy PACKAGE' (as applicable).


If it breaks you get to keep all pieces :)


[*] in general you shouldn't specify dependency packages explicitly, let 
APT handle that.

Kind regards,
Andrei
-- 
http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

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#225198

Fromdaggs <daggs@gmx.com>
Date2020-07-24 16:30 +0200
Message-ID<Aw6RX-8oz-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#225181
Greetings Andrei,

> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 at 12:13 PM
> From: "Andrei POPESCU" <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: proper config for specific pks upgrade from stable to testing
>
> On Vi, 24 iul 20, 08:37:52, daggs wrote:
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I want to upgrade these specific pkgs from stable to testing:
> > libvirt-clients/stable,now 5.0.0-4+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,upgradable to: 6.4.0-2]
> > libvirt-daemon-system/stable,now 5.0.0-4+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,upgradable to: 6.4.0-2]
> > libvirt-daemon/stable,now 5.0.0-4+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,upgradable to: 6.4.0-2]
> > libvirt0/stable,now 5.0.0-4+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,upgradable to: 6.4.0-2]
> > qemu-kvm/stable,now 1:3.1+dfsg-8+deb10u6 amd64 [installed,upgradable to: 1:5.0-6]
>
> Not available in buster-backports. Did you investigate why? The archives
> of the debian-backports list might be a good start.

from the search, I see discussion from 2018 about a related hard freeze, is it still an issue 2 ears later?

>
> > so I've updated my files as such:
> > # cat /etc/apt/preferences
> > Package: qemu-kvm
> > Pin: release o=Debian,a=testing
> > Pin-Priority: 900
> >
> > Package: libvirt-clients
> > Pin: release o=Debian,a=testing
> > Pin-Priority: 900
> >
> > Package: libvirt-daemon-system
> > Pin: release o=Debian,a=testing
> > Pin-Priority: 900
> >
> > Package: libvirt-daemon
> > Pin: release o=Debian,a=testing
> > Pin-Priority: 900
> >
> > Package: libvirt0
> > Pin: release o=Debian,a=testing
> > Pin-Priority: 900
>
> With only these pins the rest of testing is priority 500, same as
> stable. Probably not what you want.

so I need to demote the rest of testing is priority to below 500?

>
> > # cat /etc/apt/sources.list
> > deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main
> > deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main
> > deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main
> > deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main
> > deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-backports main
> > deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-backports main
> > deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main non-free
> > deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main non-free
> > deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ testing-updates main
> > deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free
> > deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security testing-security main
> >
> > but when I issue upt-get upgrade, it looks like apt tries to upgrade unrelated pkgs like lsb-release, lsof and grub.
> > is that expected?
>
> Most likely because testing now has the same priority as stable,
> 'apt policy' will tell.

you are correct, free an main has the same priority as stable.
I need to demote them correct?

>
> > I want to upgrade only these pkgs + it's deps.
> > what am I doing wrong?
>
> You are trying to mix releases - which is inherently dangerous - without
> a proper understanding of pinning and priorities.

I have no choice, as reported in this post: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/07/msg00114.html
I'm having issues passing an wireless usb adapter to a vm.
tested the adapter on my main machine working with latest libvirt, qemu and kernel in the same logic (vm usb passing) and it works great.
so I've upgraded the kernel to 5.6 (on the main machine I have 5.7 but I doubt it is the cause), now I want to upgrade libvirt and kvm to the testing one to see if the issue is solved.

>
>
> If you insist on doing that I would recommend you replicate the
> configuration for -backports.
>
> 1. pin 'testing' to 100
> 2. try installing the package you really need[*] with
>
>     apt install -t PACKAGE1 PACKAGE2
>
>
> Note: always check your pinning configuration with 'apt policy' and/or
> 'apt policy PACKAGE' (as applicable).
>
>
> If it breaks you get to keep all pieces :)
>
>
> [*] in general you shouldn't specify dependency packages explicitly, let
> APT handle that.
>
> Kind regards,
> Andrei
> --
> http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser
>

I'll try it, thanks.

Dagg

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#225199

FromAndrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
Date2020-07-24 16:50 +0200
Message-ID<Aw7bk-8vd-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#225198

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On Vi, 24 iul 20, 16:21:28, daggs wrote:
> 
> > Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 at 12:13 PM
> > From: "Andrei POPESCU" <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
> >
> > With only these pins the rest of testing is priority 500, same as
> > stable. Probably not what you want.
> 
> so I need to demote the rest of testing is priority to below 500?

If my understanding of apt_preferences(5) is correct a value strictly 
below 500 should be enough, though I still recommend 100.

If you go lower than 100 (e.g. experimental is using 1) you will have to 
take care of upgrades manually.

Kind regards,
Andrei
-- 
http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

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