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Question about nvidea-driver

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First post2020-07-16 15:20 +0200
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  Question about nvidea-driver "Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> - 2020-07-16 15:20 +0200
    Re: Question about nvidea-driver Georgi Naplatanov <gosho@oles.biz> - 2020-07-16 15:50 +0200
    Re: Question about nvidea-driver Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2020-07-16 17:10 +0200
      Re: Question about nvidea-driver "Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> - 2020-07-16 17:50 +0200
    Re: Question about nvidea-driver Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com> - 2020-07-16 18:40 +0200
      Re: Question about nvidea-driver Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-18 13:30 +0200
        Re: Question about nvidea-driver Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com> - 2020-07-18 16:10 +0200

#224876 — Question about nvidea-driver

From"Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net>
Date2020-07-16 15:20 +0200
SubjectQuestion about nvidea-driver
Message-ID<AtbXQ-7jW-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
I am running Buster on my Linux Platform.

The installer selected the xserver-xorg-videau-nouveau, libdrm-nouveau2 
and libdrm-nouveau22:i386 packages.  However, I have a GK208 [GeForce GT 
710B] (rev a1) card on the platform and have installed the nvidia-driver 
package.  Everything seems to work without any problems.

My question is can I remove the nouveau package without breaking my 
system?  Also, is it possible to direct the installer to use the 
nvidia-driver rather the nouveau package.

Thanks in advance.

-- 
Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.
www.molecular-modeling.net
614.312.7528 (c)
Skype:  smolnar1

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#224877

FromGeorgi Naplatanov <gosho@oles.biz>
Date2020-07-16 15:50 +0200
Message-ID<AtcqR-7tB-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#224876
On 7/16/20 4:18 PM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
> I am running Buster on my Linux Platform.
> 
> The installer selected the xserver-xorg-videau-nouveau, libdrm-nouveau2
> and libdrm-nouveau22:i386 packages.  However, I have a GK208 [GeForce GT
> 710B] (rev a1) card on the platform and have installed the nvidia-driver
> package.  Everything seems to work without any problems.
> 
> My question is can I remove the nouveau package without breaking my
> system?  Also, is it possible to direct the installer to use the
> nvidia-driver rather the nouveau package.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 

Hi Stephen,

I'm not 100% sure but I think that proprietary Nvidia driver
blocks/black lists nouveau driver automatically.

Kind regards
Georgi

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#224881

FromBrad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk>
Date2020-07-16 17:10 +0200
Message-ID<AtdGh-8p9-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 09:18:54 -0400
"Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Hello Stephen,

>system?  Also, is it possible to direct the installer to use the 
>nvidia-driver rather the nouveau package.

Difficult;  There are multiple versions of the nvidia driver available.
What you need/want to install depends on various factors, not least of
which is the model of card being used as some cards will require one of
the legacy drivers, rather than the current driver.  Adding the relevant
tests to the installer for what is a fairly small number of people
installing Debian with nvidia GFX cards is probably not worth the
effort.

Further to what Georgi wrote;  The nvidia driver works with the
nouveau driver still in place (i.e. the nouveau driver gets blacklisted).
Of course, you can still remove the nouveau driver if you wish to do so.
Personally, I never bothered - disk drive space is cheap these days.

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#224882

From"Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net>
Date2020-07-16 17:50 +0200
Message-ID<AteiZ-aW-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#224881
Many thanks for the replies.

I checked, and the nouveau driver has been blacklisted.

On 07/16/2020 11:09 AM, Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 09:18:54 -0400
> "Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Hello Stephen,
>
>> system?  Also, is it possible to direct the installer to use the
>> nvidia-driver rather the nouveau package.
> Difficult;  There are multiple versions of the nvidia driver available.
> What you need/want to install depends on various factors, not least of
> which is the model of card being used as some cards will require one of
> the legacy drivers, rather than the current driver.  Adding the relevant
> tests to the installer for what is a fairly small number of people
> installing Debian with nvidia GFX cards is probably not worth the
> effort.
>
> Further to what Georgi wrote;  The nvidia driver works with the
> nouveau driver still in place (i.e. the nouveau driver gets blacklisted).
> Of course, you can still remove the nouveau driver if you wish to do so.
> Personally, I never bothered - disk drive space is cheap these days.
>

-- 
Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.
www.molecular-modeling.net
614.312.7528 (c)
Skype:  smolnar1

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#224883

FromPeter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com>
Date2020-07-16 18:40 +0200
Message-ID<Atf5n-Gx-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#224876
don't know much, but from my notes:
I installed, for Buster, with Synaptic:
nvidia-detect
nvidia-driver

Now on another machine, setting up Bullseye, I get  ----not found!

inxi says-
Graphics:
   Device-1: AMD Cedar [Radeon HD 5000/6000/7350/8350 Series] driver: N/A
   Device-2: NVIDIA GF106GL [Quadro 2000] driver: nouveau v: kernel
   Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.8 driver: modesetting unloaded: 
fbdev,vesa
   resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
   OpenGL: renderer: NVC3 v: 4.3 Mesa 20.1.2

On 7/16/20 6:18 AM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
> I am running Buster on my Linux Platform.
>
> The installer selected the xserver-xorg-videau-nouveau, 
> libdrm-nouveau2 and libdrm-nouveau22:i386 packages.  However, I have a 
> GK208 [GeForce GT 710B] (rev a1) card on the platform and have 
> installed the nvidia-driver package.  Everything seems to work without 
> any problems.
>
> My question is can I remove the nouveau package without breaking my 
> system?  Also, is it possible to direct the installer to use the 
> nvidia-driver rather the nouveau package.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

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#224922

FromAndrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
Date2020-07-18 13:30 +0200
Message-ID<AtTcu-xr-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Jo, 16 iul 20, 09:20:00, Peter Ehlert wrote:
> don't know much, but from my notes:
> I installed, for Buster, with Synaptic:
> nvidia-detect
> nvidia-driver
> 
> Now on another machine, setting up Bullseye, I get  ----not found!

Did you enable 'non-free'?

Kind regards,
Andrei
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#224929

FromPeter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com>
Date2020-07-18 16:10 +0200
Message-ID<AtVHj-28u-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#224922
On 7/18/20 4:29 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Jo, 16 iul 20, 09:20:00, Peter Ehlert wrote:
>> don't know much, but from my notes:
>> I installed, for Buster, with Synaptic:
>> nvidia-detect
>> nvidia-driver
>>
>> Now on another machine, setting up Bullseye, I get  ----not found!
> Did you enable 'non-free'?
no Sir I did not. Thank You!
now with 'non-free' enabled both packages were found and are installed.

* Synaptic did warn me:
"The free nouveau kernel module is currently loaded and conflicts with 
the non-free nvidia kernel module.
The easiest way to fix this is to reboot the machine once the 
installation has finished."
that worked.

I suppose I should also install the nvidia-kernel-source package

I was using the debian-bullseye-DI-alpha2-amd64-netinst.iso
usually with Buster installs I use a non-free ISO and it just did not 
occur to me.


>
> Kind regards,
> Andrei

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