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| Started by | "Vlad Dragomir" <vladdragomir1983@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2020-07-14 22:40 +0200 |
| Last post | 2020-07-15 12:50 +0200 |
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Installation Problem "Vlad Dragomir" <vladdragomir1983@gmail.com> - 2020-07-14 22:40 +0200
Re: Installation Problem David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2020-07-14 22:50 +0200
Re: Installation Problem ghe2001 <ghe2001@protonmail.com> - 2020-07-14 23:00 +0200
Re: Installation Problem Bob McGowan <ramjr0915@gmail.com> - 2020-07-15 00:10 +0200
Re: Installation Problem Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-07-14 23:00 +0200
Re: Installation Problem David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-07-15 00:10 +0200
RE: Installation Problem "Vlad Dragomir" <vladdragomir1983@gmail.com> - 2020-07-15 05:50 +0200
Re: Installation Problem David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-07-15 06:20 +0200
Re: Installation Problem <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-15 09:50 +0200
Re: Installation Problem Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-07-15 14:40 +0200
RE: Installation Problem "Vlad Dragomir" <vladdragomir1983@gmail.com> - 2020-07-15 18:10 +0200
Re: Installation Problem Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-15 19:20 +0200
Re: Installation Problem Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2020-07-15 12:50 +0200
| From | "Vlad Dragomir" <vladdragomir1983@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-07-14 22:40 +0200 |
| Subject | Installation Problem |
| Message-ID | <AszSx-17B-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
Good evening, I am very new to Debian, and would like to apologise first, I might not know how exactly to describe this issue. I tried to install Debian on an unused laptop I'm having, using the iso downloaded from this torrent: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/10.4.0+nonfree/amd64/bt-dvd/firmware-10.4.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso.torrent It started wonderfully, the installation went smoothly until it tried to connect to the Internet. It asks for additional non-free firmware, unfortunately it's an Intel wireless card. It gives a list of files it needs in order to configure the network, which is I suppose a good start. Still, 1. I have no idea where to find those files, Google didn’t help me much with this. 2. If I find those files, I don’t know where exactly to paste them on the installation drive for it to see them. 3. This installation iso pretends it contains non-free firmware already, so normally it shouldn’t ask for those files. Am I missing something? Therefore, I had to cancel the installation, at least for the time being. It would be rather useless to have a system without Internet access. Here is the list of files the installer asks for: iwlwifi-8000C-36.ucode iwlwifi-8000C-35.ucode iwlwifi-8000C-34.ucode iwlwifi-8000C-33.ucode iwlwifi-8000C-32.ucode iwlwifi-8000C-31.ucode iwlwifi-8000C-30.ucode iwlwifi-8000C-29.ucode iwlwifi-8000C-28.ucode iwlwifi-8000C-27.ucode iwlwifi-8000C-26.ucode iwlwifi-8000C-25.ucode iwlwifi-8000C-24.ucode iwlwifi-8000C-23.ucode iwlwifi-8000C-22.ucode I will be grateful for any tip that would help me make this work, I'm not ready to give up, would love to keep one foot in the world of free software, except for the Network card of course. *smile* Thanks for helping the newbie, and sorry again if I'm not asking things the right way. Regards, Vlad.
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| From | David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> |
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| Date | 2020-07-14 22:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <AsA2e-1b1-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #224810 |
On 2020-07-14 13:33, Vlad Dragomir wrote: > I tried to install Debian on an unused laptop I'm having, > It asks for additional non-free firmware, unfortunately it's an Intel wireless card. It gives a list of files it needs in order to configure the network, which is I suppose a good start. Still, > 1. I have no idea where to find those files, Google didn’t help me much with this. > 2. If I find those files, I don’t know where exactly to paste them on the installation drive for it to see them. > 3. This installation iso pretends it contains non-free firmware already, so normally it shouldn’t ask for those files. Am I missing something? > Therefore, I had to cancel the installation, at least for the time being. It would be rather useless to have a system without Internet access. Proprietary Wi-Fi firmware is an unending PITA with FOSS. I buy laptops with wired Ethernet interfaces to avoid this problem. I then use the wired connection for installation and for installing Wi-Fi firmware. If I needed to install Debian on a laptop without Ethernet, I would buy a USB Ethernet adapter. The key is finding one that is supported by FOSS OOTB. Unfortunately, I do not own one and cannot make a recommendation. (And, these products constantly change.) I would STFW for mailing list and forum archives for USB WiFi adapaters that are known to work with Debian 10. If you are willing to buy used equipment (if only to do the install and firmware for the build-in Wi-Fi), eBay is a good source. David
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| From | ghe2001 <ghe2001@protonmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-07-14 23:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <AsAbT-1e8-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #224811 |
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| From | Bob McGowan <ramjr0915@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-07-15 00:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <AsBhE-25v-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #224811 |
On 7/14/20 1:48 PM, David Christensen wrote: > On 2020-07-14 13:33, Vlad Dragomir wrote: > >> I tried to install Debian on an unused laptop I'm having, > >> It asks for additional non-free firmware, unfortunately it's an Intel >> wireless card. It gives a list of files it needs in order to configure >> the network, which is I suppose a good start. Still, >> 1. I have no idea where to find those files, Google didn’t help me >> much with this. >> 2. If I find those files, I don’t know where exactly to paste them >> on the installation drive for it to see them. >> 3. This installation iso pretends it contains non-free firmware >> already, so normally it shouldn’t ask for those files. Am I missing >> something? >> Therefore, I had to cancel the installation, at least for the time >> being. It would be rather useless to have a system without Internet >> access. > > Proprietary Wi-Fi firmware is an unending PITA with FOSS. > > > I buy laptops with wired Ethernet interfaces to avoid this problem. I > then use the wired connection for installation and for installing Wi-Fi > firmware. > > > If I needed to install Debian on a laptop without Ethernet, I would buy > a USB Ethernet adapter. The key is finding one that is supported by > FOSS OOTB. Unfortunately, I do not own one and cannot make a > recommendation. (And, these products constantly change.) I would STFW > for mailing list and forum archives for USB WiFi adapaters that are > known to work with Debian 10. If you are willing to buy used equipment > (if only to do the install and firmware for the build-in Wi-Fi), eBay is > a good source. > > > David > If you need a USB<->Ethernet dongle, I recently purchased one, through Amazon. It is a Gigabit/USB3.0 dongle that works nicely with Debian. The manufacturer is "plugable" (plugable.com) and the device is model USB3-E1000. As an aside, for anyone that might be interested, I tested it successfully with both a Samsung Galaxy S9 cellphone and a Lenovo Tablet TB-8504F, which surprised me a bit. I've also tested on two other Android tablets, where it did not work, so mileage will vary. Regardless, it works with Debian without a hitch. ;) Bob
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| From | Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> |
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| Date | 2020-07-14 23:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <AsAbT-1e8-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #224810 |
Vlad Dragomir wrote: > I am very new to Debian, and would like to apologise first, I might not know how exactly to describe this issue. Everybody starts somewhere. > I tried to install Debian on an unused laptop I'm having, using the iso downloaded from this torrent: > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/10.4.0+nonfree/amd64/bt-dvd/firmware-10.4.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso.torrent Pretty good choice. > It started wonderfully, the installation went smoothly until it tried to connect to the Internet. It asks for additional non-free firmware, unfortunately it's an Intel wireless card. It gives a list of files it needs in order to configure the network, which is I suppose a good start. Still, > 1. I have no idea where to find those files, Google didn???t help me much with this. > 2. If I find those files, I don???t know where exactly to paste them on the installation drive for it to see them. > 3. This installation iso pretends it contains non-free firmware already, so normally it shouldn???t ask for those files. Am I missing something? > Therefore, I had to cancel the installation, at least for the time being. It would be rather useless to have a system without Internet access. Let's find out which Intel wireless card you have. With the installer running, choose "start local shell". Then type lspci and look for lines with Network in them. They should start with a number like 03.00 or something like that. Tell us the output from lspci -vv #### where #### is the number from the Network line. -dsr-
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| From | David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2020-07-15 00:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <AsBhD-25v-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #224812 |
On Tue 14 Jul 2020 at 16:59:00 (-0400), Dan Ritter wrote: > Vlad Dragomir wrote: > > I am very new to Debian, and would like to apologise first, I might not know how exactly to describe this issue. > > Everybody starts somewhere. > > > > I tried to install Debian on an unused laptop I'm having, using the iso downloaded from this torrent: > > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/10.4.0+nonfree/amd64/bt-dvd/firmware-10.4.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso.torrent > > Pretty good choice. > > > It started wonderfully, the installation went smoothly until it tried to connect to the Internet. It asks for additional non-free firmware, unfortunately it's an Intel wireless card. It gives a list of files it needs in order to configure the network, which is I suppose a good start. Still, > > 1. I have no idea where to find those files, Google didn???t help me much with this. > > 2. If I find those files, I don???t know where exactly to paste them on the installation drive for it to see them. > > 3. This installation iso pretends it contains non-free firmware already, so normally it shouldn???t ask for those files. Am I missing something? > > Therefore, I had to cancel the installation, at least for the time being. It would be rather useless to have a system without Internet access. > > Let's find out which Intel wireless card you have. With the > installer running, choose "start local shell". > > Then type > > lspci > > and look for lines with Network in them. They should start with > a number like 03.00 or something like that. > > Tell us the output from > > lspci -vv #### > > where #### is the number from the Network line. It seems odd that it's asking for such a long list of files. I assume it would be happy with just one of them, and it's just giving alternatives in order of preference. iwlwifi-8000C-36.ucode iwlwifi-8000C-35.ucode iwlwifi-8000C-34.ucode iwlwifi-8000C-33.ucode iwlwifi-8000C-32.ucode iwlwifi-8000C-31.ucode iwlwifi-8000C-30.ucode iwlwifi-8000C-29.ucode iwlwifi-8000C-28.ucode iwlwifi-8000C-27.ucode iwlwifi-8000C-26.ucode iwlwifi-8000C-25.ucode iwlwifi-8000C-24.ucode iwlwifi-8000C-23.ucode iwlwifi-8000C-22.ucode But even my netinst ISO (firmware-10.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso 394265k Nov 16 2019) contains the first and last of these: iwlwifi-8000C-22.ucode 2120860 Aug 22 2019 iwlwifi-8000C-36.ucode 2486572 Aug 22 2019 BTW googling the filename gave me a link to https://github.com/wkennington/linux-firmware/blob/master/iwlwifi-8000C-36.ucode as the second hit. Cheers, David.
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| From | "Vlad Dragomir" <vladdragomir1983@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-07-15 05:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <AsGAG-583-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #224812 |
Hello, Thank you all for all those great responses, I'm definitely grateful. Dan, I followed your instructions, please tell me if this is the expected output, I'll try to transcribe everything: Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 8260 (rev 3a) Would you please tell me what to do next? David, I found that file too, actually I found four or five of them, but not all. I put them on the USB installation drive but the installer kept asking for them. I'm sorry, I should have been more precise when I said that Google didn't help me much. What I meant was: it only found a few of those files and they were ignored by the installer. Digital thanks to all those who took a moment to write back! Vlad.
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| From | David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2020-07-15 06:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <AsH3H-5wh-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #224821 |
On Wed 15 Jul 2020 at 05:43:06 (+0200), Vlad Dragomir wrote: > > I found that file too, actually I found four or five of them, but not all. I put them on the USB installation drive but the installer kept asking for them. I'm sorry, I should have been more precise when I said that Google didn't help me much. What I meant was: it only found a few of those files and they were ignored by the installer. The most reliable place I've found in the past was in the top-level directory on an ordinary FAT-partitioned USB stick. The installer writes a log to VC4, which should record where it looks. If the lines in question have already scrolled off the screen, the log can be displayed (rather tediously) with the command # more /var/log/syslog in a shell you can open on VC2 or VC3. Cheers, David.
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| From | <tomas@tuxteam.de> |
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| Date | 2020-07-15 09:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <AsKkV-7qv-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #224822 |
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On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:14:16PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 15 Jul 2020 at 05:43:06 (+0200), Vlad Dragomir wrote:
> >
> > I found that file too, actually I found four or five of them, but not all. I put them on the USB installation drive but the installer kept asking for them. I'm sorry, I should have been more precise when I said that Google didn't help me much. What I meant was: it only found a few of those files and they were ignored by the installer.
>
> The most reliable place I've found in the past was in the top-level
> directory on an ordinary FAT-partitioned USB stick.
>
> The installer writes a log to VC4, which should record where it
^^^^^^^^
This is "virtual console 4". You switch to it by hitting CTRL-ALT-F4.
Similarly...
> looks. If the lines in question have already scrolled off the screen,
> the log can be displayed (rather tediously) with the command
> # more /var/log/syslog
> in a shell you can open on VC2 or VC3.
...for the other virtual consoles.
Cheers
-- t
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| From | Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> |
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| Date | 2020-07-15 14:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <AsORA-1Lw-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #224821 |
Vlad Dragomir wrote: > Hello, > > Thank you all for all those great responses, I'm definitely grateful. > > Dan, I followed your instructions, please tell me if this is the expected output, I'll try to transcribe everything: > Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 8260 (rev 3a) > > Would you please tell me what to do next? Good news. This adapter is well-supported. It does need a non-free firmware blob, which is packaged as firmware-iwlwifi. The curious thing is, the install disc that you downloaded should have that package. Anyway. Grab http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/buster/current/ and uncompress one of those three archives on a USB stick; when the installer asks you if you have a removable disk with drivers or firmware, plug it in. Around the middle of the install, the installer will ask you what Debian repositories to enable. In addition to selecting security updates, add non-free. -dsr-
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| From | "Vlad Dragomir" <vladdragomir1983@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-07-15 18:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <AsS8N-3SX-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #224839 |
Worked like a charm, I'm almost at the end of the installation process. Yes indeed, the downloaded archive contains more firmware compared to the installation disc, not very logical in my opinion but I am not a pro. Thank you so much, virtual pints for everybody! Cheers, Vlad.
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| From | Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-07-15 19:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <AsTey-4ur-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #224860 |
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On Mi, 15 iul 20, 18:07:53, Vlad Dragomir wrote:
> Worked like a charm, I'm almost at the end of the installation process.
>
> Yes indeed, the downloaded archive contains more firmware compared to the installation disc, not very logical in my opinion but I am not a pro.
>
> Thank you so much, virtual pints for everybody!
Hi Vlad,
This sounds like a problem with either the installer or the way the
image was built.
Please file an "installation-report" after you are finished with
reportbug installation-report
Have fun with Debian,
Andrei
--
http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser
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| From | Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> |
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| Date | 2020-07-15 12:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <AsN97-GP-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #224810 |
On 07/14/2020 03:33 PM, Vlad Dragomir wrote: > Good evening, > > I am very new to Debian, and would like to apologise first, I might not know how exactly to describe this issue. > > I tried to install Debian on an unused laptop I'm having, [ *SNIP* ] What is make and model of the laptop?
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