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  Support for AMD Ryzen 3 3200U Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2020-06-27 15:40 +0200
    Re: Support for AMD Ryzen 3 3200U Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-06-27 19:20 +0200
      Re: Support for AMD Ryzen 3 3200U Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2020-06-27 20:40 +0200
        Re: Support for AMD Ryzen 3 3200U Georgi Naplatanov <gosho@oles.biz> - 2020-06-27 21:40 +0200
          Re: Support for AMD Ryzen 3 3200U Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2020-06-27 22:00 +0200
        Re: Support for AMD Ryzen 3 3200U Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-06-28 01:10 +0200
    Re: Support for AMD Ryzen 3 3200U Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2020-07-30 23:40 +0200
      Re: Support for AMD Ryzen 3 3200U Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-31 07:40 +0200
        Re: Support for AMD Ryzen 3 3200U Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-07-31 13:30 +0200
          Re: Support for AMD Ryzen 3 3200U Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-08-02 09:10 +0200
            Re: Support for AMD Ryzen 3 3200U Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-08-02 16:20 +0200

#224106 — Support for AMD Ryzen 3 3200U

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Hi.

I need to buy a new computer. I am considering one based on the
AMD Ryzen 3 3200U, more precisely the ZOTAC ZBOX CA621 Nano.

From what I read on the web, it seems I would be able to get it working
with Debian Testing.

Can somebody confirm firsthand, for this processor or even better for
this specific computer?

Thanks.

-- 
  Nicolas George

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#224114

Nicolas George wrote: 
> Hi.
> 
> I need to buy a new computer. I am considering one based on the
> AMD Ryzen 3 3200U, more precisely the ZOTAC ZBOX CA621 Nano.
> 
> From what I read on the web, it seems I would be able to get it working
> with Debian Testing.
> 
> Can somebody confirm firsthand, for this processor or even better for
> this specific computer?
> 

No problems with this, or the 3400G (4-core sibling) or the
2700x, or the 3600, or any of the EPYC series (Ryzen for
servers).

At this point, people should stop asking "Is this Ryzen going to
work with Debian" unless it has been introduced within the last 6 months.
The worst case scenario is that you will need a backport kernel
or amdgpu driver.

The 3200U is now 18 months old.

-dsr-

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#224117

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Dan Ritter (12020-06-27):
> No problems with this, or the 3400G (4-core sibling) or the
> 2700x, or the 3600, or any of the EPYC series (Ryzen for
> servers).

Thank you. Just to be sure: GPU too?

> At this point, people should stop asking "Is this Ryzen going to
> work with Debian" unless it has been introduced within the last 6 months.

My rule of thumb for when to stop asking "will this work" is: when the
information is easily found on the web. With the counterpart: if I have
the info, I try to remember to make it available.

Regards,

-- 
  Nicolas George

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#224119

On 6/27/20 9:37 PM, Nicolas George wrote:
> Dan Ritter (12020-06-27):
>> No problems with this, or the 3400G (4-core sibling) or the
>> 2700x, or the 3600, or any of the EPYC series (Ryzen for
>> servers).
> 
> Thank you. Just to be sure: GPU too?

Hi Nicolas,

to be sure that you won't have problems with the mainboard and different
controllers on it I would recommend you to test with live distribution
on USB flash drive if this is possible.

Kind regards
Georgi

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#224121

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Hi.

Georgi Naplatanov (12020-06-27):
> to be sure that you won't have problems with the mainboard and different
> controllers on it I would recommend you to test with live distribution
> on USB flash drive if this is possible.

I kind of hoped to make sure before getting my hands on the computer, to
avoid wasting time and shipping costs if it does not work.

Regards,

-- 
  Nicolas George

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#224128

Nicolas George wrote: 
> Dan Ritter (12020-06-27):
> > No problems with this, or the 3400G (4-core sibling) or the
> > 2700x, or the 3600, or any of the EPYC series (Ryzen for
> > servers).
> 
> Thank you. Just to be sure: GPU too?

Yes. You'll need the amd firmware package and the amdgpu Xorg
server.

> My rule of thumb for when to stop asking "will this work" is: when the
> information is easily found on the web. With the counterpart: if I have
> the info, I try to remember to make it available.

Now it's in this message, which is archived and searchable!

-dsr-

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#225580

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Nicolas George (12020-06-27):
> I need to buy a new computer. I am considering one based on the
> AMD Ryzen 3 3200U, more precisely the ZOTAC ZBOX CA621 Nano.
> 
> From what I read on the web, it seems I would be able to get it working
> with Debian Testing.
> 
> Can somebody confirm firsthand, for this processor or even better for
> this specific computer?

For the completeness of this list:

The ZOTAC ZBOX CA621 Nano, based on AMD Ryzen 3 3200U, works, including
GPU, with Debian stable but kernel 5.7.0-1-amd64 and firmwares from
testing.

Regards,

-- 
  Nicolas George

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#225585

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On Jo, 30 iul 20, 23:31:01, Nicolas George wrote:
> 
> The ZOTAC ZBOX CA621 Nano, based on AMD Ryzen 3 3200U, works, including
> GPU, with Debian stable but kernel 5.7.0-1-amd64 and firmwares from
> testing.

Is the processor powerful enough to decode 4K video in software?

Thanks,
Andrei
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http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

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#225604

Andrei POPESCU wrote: 
> On Jo, 30 iul 20, 23:31:01, Nicolas George wrote:
> > 
> > The ZOTAC ZBOX CA621 Nano, based on AMD Ryzen 3 3200U, works, including
> > GPU, with Debian stable but kernel 5.7.0-1-amd64 and firmwares from
> > testing.
> 
> Is the processor powerful enough to decode 4K video in software?

Probably, but it has a GPU built in which works perfectly well
with the AMDGPU driver.

-dsr-

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#225730

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On Vi, 31 iul 20, 07:23:10, Dan Ritter wrote:
> Andrei POPESCU wrote: 
> > On Jo, 30 iul 20, 23:31:01, Nicolas George wrote:
> > > 
> > > The ZOTAC ZBOX CA621 Nano, based on AMD Ryzen 3 3200U, works, including
> > > GPU, with Debian stable but kernel 5.7.0-1-amd64 and firmwares from
> > > testing.
> > 
> > Is the processor powerful enough to decode 4K video in software?
> 
> Probably, but it has a GPU built in which works perfectly well
> with the AMDGPU driver.

Feature support of the hardware decoders (e.g. the various profiles of 
H.264) varies widely, I'd rather not rely on it, especially as I have 
been bitten by this recently.

https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/HWAccelIntro

I'm looking into building a NAS (min. 2 x 3,5" HDDs) / HTPC (4K and 
TOSLINK output), preferably based on the Ryzen 3 4300U, and with ECC 
RAM.

Hoping to get it completely fanless, or at most a large case fan :)

Kind regards,
Andrei
-- 
http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

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#225736

Andrei POPESCU wrote: 
> 
> I'm looking into building a NAS (min. 2 x 3,5" HDDs) / HTPC (4K and 
> TOSLINK output), preferably based on the Ryzen 3 4300U, and with ECC 
> RAM.

You may have a problem there. The 4300U is only sold as part of
integrated systems (tiny computers, laptops) and while it
*should* support ECC, it depends on motherboard support as well.

I suspect there aren't any of those being sold.

I have been told that all of ASRock's Ryzen motherboards can
use ECC, and they have some mini-ITX motherboards. That might
be your best bet. The low-end of Ryzen APUs is the Athlon 200GE,
2 cores / 4 threads. The current socketed high end is the Ryzen
5 3400G, 4 cores / 8 threads.

> Hoping to get it completely fanless, or at most a large case fan :)

A single case fan ought to be quite doable, as long as it is
blowing over a decent heatsink/radiator on the CPU.

-dsr-

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