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  dpms control? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-06-20 17:30 +0200
    Re: dpms control? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-06-20 18:10 +0200
      Re: dpms control? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-06-20 21:20 +0200
        Re: dpms control? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-06-20 23:20 +0200
      Re: dpms control? davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2020-06-21 00:20 +0200
        Re: dpms control? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-06-21 00:30 +0200
    Re: dpms control? davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2020-06-21 00:30 +0200
      Re: dpms control? davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2020-06-21 00:30 +0200
      Re: dpms control? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-06-21 00:40 +0200
        Re: dpms control? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-06-21 02:10 +0200
          Re: dpms control? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-06-21 02:30 +0200
        Re: dpms control? davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2020-06-21 02:20 +0200
          Re: dpms control? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-06-21 02:40 +0200
            Re: dpms control? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-06-21 03:00 +0200
              Re: dpms control? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-06-21 03:20 +0200
                Re: dpms control? davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2020-06-26 21:50 +0200
                  Re: dpms control? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-06-26 22:40 +0200
                    Re: dpms control? rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-06-26 23:30 +0200
                    Re: dpms control? davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2020-06-27 17:30 +0200
                      Re: dpms control? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-06-27 18:40 +0200

#223738 — dpms control?

Greetings all;
I am running an app that gets messed up if the screen blanker kicks in, 
so I used xset to shut off dpms. Has no effect.  So how do I shut the 
screen blanker down for the jobs duration? Building a device to rock the 
mouse back and forth at 1 minute intervals seems like a huge waste of 
time and metal cutting tools to make it.

So, how can I kill the blanker for several hours or all day/night if need 
be?


Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#223741

On Sat 20 Jun 2020 at 11:26:04 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:

> Greetings all;
> I am running an app that gets messed up if the screen blanker kicks in,
> so I used xset to shut off dpms. Has no effect.  So how do I shut the
> screen blanker down for the jobs duration? Building a device to rock the
> mouse back and forth at 1 minute intervals seems like a huge waste of
> time and metal cutting tools to make it.
>
> So, how can I kill the blanker for several hours or all day/night if need
> be?

In my .xsession I have

  xset -dpms
  xset s off
  xset s noblank

It works for me.

-- 
Brian.

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#223755

On Saturday 20 June 2020 12:02:51 Brian wrote:

> On Sat 20 Jun 2020 at 11:26:04 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Greetings all;
> > I am running an app that gets messed up if the screen blanker kicks
> > in, so I used xset to shut off dpms. Has no effect.  So how do I
> > shut the screen blanker down for the jobs duration? Building a
> > device to rock the mouse back and forth at 1 minute intervals seems
> > like a huge waste of time and metal cutting tools to make it.
> >
> > So, how can I kill the blanker for several hours or all day/night if
> > need be?
>
> In my .xsession I have
>
>   xset -dpms
>   xset s off <-I didn't have this, set from the command line, thanks
>   xset s noblank
>
> It works for me.


Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#223775

On Saturday 20 June 2020 15:13:45 Gene Heskett wrote:

> On Saturday 20 June 2020 12:02:51 Brian wrote:
> > On Sat 20 Jun 2020 at 11:26:04 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > Greetings all;
> > > I am running an app that gets messed up if the screen blanker
> > > kicks in, so I used xset to shut off dpms. Has no effect.  So how
> > > do I shut the screen blanker down for the jobs duration? Building
> > > a device to rock the mouse back and forth at 1 minute intervals
> > > seems like a huge waste of time and metal cutting tools to make
> > > it.
> > >
> > > So, how can I kill the blanker for several hours or all day/night
> > > if need be?
> >
> > In my .xsession I have
> >
> >   xset -dpms
> >   xset s off <-I didn't have this, set from the command line, thanks
> >   xset s noblank
> >
> > It works for me.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett

Nice try but even with all that turned off, it still blanks the monitor 
on schedule.

Next step??

Thanks all.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#223778

On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Brian wrote:

> On Sat 20 Jun 2020 at 11:26:04 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
>> Greetings all;
>> I am running an app that gets messed up if the screen blanker kicks in,
>> so I used xset to shut off dpms. Has no effect.  So how do I shut the
>> screen blanker down for the jobs duration? Building a device to rock the
>> mouse back and forth at 1 minute intervals seems like a huge waste of
>> time and metal cutting tools to make it.
>>
>> So, how can I kill the blanker for several hours or all day/night if need
>> be?
>
> In my .xsession I have
>
>  xset -dpms
>  xset s off
>  xset s noblank
>
> It works for me.

You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.

https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/16072015192917.eecaf079bf10@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
  To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
  Subject: Re: shutting off screen blanker forever?
  From: Brian [address snipped]
  Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 19:35:04 +0100

-- 
@almightygenie 8 Jun 2020 | @Windex
   Thanks, Windex. That's a relief. Your drink is even more refreshing
   now that I know that it deplores racism & discrimination.
twitter.com/almightygenie/status/1270096054864809988

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#223779

On Saturday 20 June 2020 18:10:40 davidson wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Brian wrote:
> > On Sat 20 Jun 2020 at 11:26:04 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> Greetings all;
> >> I am running an app that gets messed up if the screen blanker kicks
> >> in, so I used xset to shut off dpms. Has no effect.  So how do I
> >> shut the screen blanker down for the jobs duration? Building a
> >> device to rock the mouse back and forth at 1 minute intervals seems
> >> like a huge waste of time and metal cutting tools to make it.
> >>
> >> So, how can I kill the blanker for several hours or all day/night
> >> if need be?
> >
> > In my .xsession I have
> >
> >  xset -dpms
> >  xset s off
> >  xset s noblank
> >
> > It works for me.
>
> You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.

So it would seem, but none of that works.

> https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/16072015192917.eecaf079bf10@desk
>top.copernicus.demon.co.uk To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>   Subject: Re: shutting off screen blanker forever?
>   From: Brian [address snipped]
>   Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 19:35:04 +0100


Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#223780

On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Gene Heskett wrote:

> Greetings all;
> I am running an app that gets messed up if the screen blanker kicks in,
> so I used xset to shut off dpms. Has no effect.  So how do I shut the
> screen blanker down for the jobs duration? Building a device to rock the
> mouse back and forth at 1 minute intervals seems like a huge waste of
> time and metal cutting tools to make it.
>
> So, how can I kill the blanker for several hours or all day/night if need
> be?

What is your Desktop Environment?

I lack expertise. But people who do not lack it may want to know this.

Best luck with your projects, Gene.

-- 
@almightygenie 8 Jun 2020 | @Windex
   Thanks, Windex. That's a relief. Your drink is even more refreshing
   now that I know that it deplores racism & discrimination.
twitter.com/almightygenie/status/1270096054864809988

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#223781

On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, davidson wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
>> Greetings all;
>> I am running an app that gets messed up if the screen blanker kicks in,
>> so I used xset to shut off dpms. Has no effect.  So how do I shut the
>> screen blanker down for the jobs duration? Building a device to rock the
>> mouse back and forth at 1 minute intervals seems like a huge waste of
>> time and metal cutting tools to make it.
>> 
>> So, how can I kill the blanker for several hours or all day/night if need
>> be?
>
> What is your Desktop Environment?

Your Display Manager too, I guess. Sounds like the kind of thing that
might have something to do with this.

> I lack expertise. But people who do not lack it may want to know this.
>
> Best luck with your projects, Gene.
>
>

-- 
@almightygenie 8 Jun 2020 | @Windex
   Thanks, Windex. That's a relief. Your drink is even more refreshing
   now that I know that it deplores racism & discrimination.
twitter.com/almightygenie/status/1270096054864809988

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#223782

On Saturday 20 June 2020 18:22:56 davidson wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Greetings all;
> > I am running an app that gets messed up if the screen blanker kicks
> > in, so I used xset to shut off dpms. Has no effect.  So how do I
> > shut the screen blanker down for the jobs duration? Building a
> > device to rock the mouse back and forth at 1 minute intervals seems
> > like a huge waste of time and metal cutting tools to make it.
> >
> > So, how can I kill the blanker for several hours or all day/night if
> > need be?
>
> What is your Desktop Environment?

TDE r14.0.8, on stretch.
>
> I lack expertise. But people who do not lack it may want to know this.
>
> Best luck with your projects, Gene.


Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#223786

On Sat 20 Jun 2020 at 18:30:14 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 20 June 2020 18:22:56 davidson wrote:
> > On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > Greetings all;
> > > I am running an app that gets messed up if the screen blanker kicks
> > > in, so I used xset to shut off dpms. Has no effect.  So how do I
> > > shut the screen blanker down for the jobs duration? Building a
> > > device to rock the mouse back and forth at 1 minute intervals seems
> > > like a huge waste of time and metal cutting tools to make it.
> > >
> > > So, how can I kill the blanker for several hours or all day/night if
> > > need be?
> >
> > What is your Desktop Environment?
> 
> TDE r14.0.8, on stretch.

So did you tell TDE in the approved manner to run those commands?
or just put them in a file called .xsession. Does TDE even read .xsession?
Is TDE part of Debian, or does it have a list of its own?

Cheers,
David.

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#223788

On Saturday 20 June 2020 20:03:06 David Wright wrote:

> On Sat 20 Jun 2020 at 18:30:14 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Saturday 20 June 2020 18:22:56 davidson wrote:
> > > On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > Greetings all;
> > > > I am running an app that gets messed up if the screen blanker
> > > > kicks in, so I used xset to shut off dpms. Has no effect.  So
> > > > how do I shut the screen blanker down for the jobs duration?
> > > > Building a device to rock the mouse back and forth at 1 minute
> > > > intervals seems like a huge waste of time and metal cutting
> > > > tools to make it.
> > > >
> > > > So, how can I kill the blanker for several hours or all
> > > > day/night if need be?
> > >
> > > What is your Desktop Environment?
> >
> > TDE r14.0.8, on stretch.
>
> So did you tell TDE in the approved manner to run those commands?
> or just put them in a file called .xsession. Does TDE even read
> .xsession? Is TDE part of Debian, or does it have a list of its own?
>
> Cheers,
> David.
That is essentially what I am bugging their list about.

Thanks.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#223787

On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Gene Heskett wrote:

> On Saturday 20 June 2020 18:22:56 davidson wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> Greetings all;
>>> I am running an app that gets messed up if the screen blanker kicks
>>> in, so I used xset to shut off dpms. Has no effect.  So how do I
>>> shut the screen blanker down for the jobs duration?

Since we seem to be troubleshooting, what is the output of

  $ xset q

Might shed some light. To somebody.

Also, figuring out what "screen blanker" we are really dealing with
might help. Any hits for this?

  $ man -k kpowersave

And do you have one of these?

  ~/.trinity/share/config/kdesktoprc

>>> Building a device to rock the mouse back and forth at 1 minute
>>> intervals seems like a huge waste of time and metal cutting tools
>>> to make it.

Honestly, that sounds pretty cool.

>>> So, how can I kill the blanker for several hours or all day/night if
>>> need be?
>>
>> What is your Desktop Environment?
>
> TDE r14.0.8, on stretch.

So, weird KDE. Okay.

Does systemd start tdm for you, or do you manually startx instead?
Something else entirely?

-- 
@almightygenie 8 Jun 2020 | @Windex
   Thanks, Windex. That's a relief. Your drink is even more refreshing
   now that I know that it deplores racism & discrimination.
twitter.com/almightygenie/status/1270096054864809988

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#223789

On Saturday 20 June 2020 20:13:08 davidson wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Saturday 20 June 2020 18:22:56 davidson wrote:
> >> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >>> Greetings all;
> >>> I am running an app that gets messed up if the screen blanker
> >>> kicks in, so I used xset to shut off dpms. Has no effect.  So how
> >>> do I shut the screen blanker down for the jobs duration?
>
> Since we seem to be troubleshooting, what is the output of
>
>   $ xset q
gene@coyote:/media$ xset q
Keyboard Control:
  auto repeat:  on    key click percent:  10    LED mask:  00000000
  XKB indicators:
    00: Caps Lock:   off    01: Num Lock:    off    02: Scroll Lock: off
    03: Compose:     off    04: Kana:        off    05: Sleep:       off
    06: Suspend:     off    07: Mute:        off    08: Misc:        off
    09: Mail:        off    10: Charging:    off    11: Shift Lock:  off
    12: Group 2:     off    13: Mouse Keys:  off
  auto repeat delay:  594    repeat rate:  14
  auto repeating keys:  00ffffffdffffbbf
                        fadfffefffedffff
                        9fffffffffffffff
                        fff7ffffffffffff
  bell percent:  50    bell pitch:  400    bell duration:  100
Pointer Control:
  acceleration:  20/10    threshold:  4
Screen Saver:
  prefer blanking:  no    allow exposures:  yes
  timeout:  0    cycle:  0
Colors:
  default colormap:  0x20    BlackPixel:  0x0    WhitePixel:  0xffffff
Font Path:
  /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,built-ins
DPMS (Energy Star):
  Standby: 450    Suspend: 600    Off: 900
  DPMS is Disabled

But if I repeat that query half san hour later, something has re-enabled 
dpms.  Murphy?

> Might shed some light. To somebody.
>
> Also, figuring out what "screen blanker" we are really dealing with
> might help. Any hits for this?
>
>   $ man -k kpowersave
>
> And do you have one of these?
>
>   ~/.trinity/share/config/kdesktoprc
I found this in that file:

[ScreenSaver]
DelaySaverStart=true
Enabled=false
HideActiveWindowsFromSaver=true
HideCancelButton=false
Lock=false
LockGrace=60000
Saver=KSlideshow.desktop
Timeout=300
UseTDESAK=true
UseUnmanagedLockWindows=false

>
> >>> Building a device to rock the mouse back and forth at 1 minute
> >>> intervals seems like a huge waste of time and metal cutting tools
> >>> to make it.
>
> Honestly, that sounds pretty cool.
>
> >>> So, how can I kill the blanker for several hours or all day/night
> >>> if need be?
> >>
> >> What is your Desktop Environment?
> >
> > TDE r14.0.8, on stretch.
>
> So, weird KDE. Okay.
>
> Does systemd start tdm for you, or do you manually startx instead?
> Something else entirely?

tdm has its own startup, like old 3.5 KDE. Its unk if systemd is involved 
by this user.

Thanks.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#223790

On Sat 20 Jun 2020 at 20:37:09 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 20 June 2020 20:13:08 davidson wrote:
> > On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Saturday 20 June 2020 18:22:56 davidson wrote:
> > >> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > >>> Greetings all;
> > >>> I am running an app that gets messed up if the screen blanker
> > >>> kicks in, so I used xset to shut off dpms. Has no effect.  So how
> > >>> do I shut the screen blanker down for the jobs duration?
> >
> > Since we seem to be troubleshooting, what is the output of
> >
> >   $ xset q
> gene@coyote:/media$ xset q
> Keyboard Control:
>   auto repeat:  on    key click percent:  10    LED mask:  00000000
>   XKB indicators:
>     00: Caps Lock:   off    01: Num Lock:    off    02: Scroll Lock: off
>     03: Compose:     off    04: Kana:        off    05: Sleep:       off
>     06: Suspend:     off    07: Mute:        off    08: Misc:        off
>     09: Mail:        off    10: Charging:    off    11: Shift Lock:  off
>     12: Group 2:     off    13: Mouse Keys:  off
>   auto repeat delay:  594    repeat rate:  14
>   auto repeating keys:  00ffffffdffffbbf
>                         fadfffefffedffff
>                         9fffffffffffffff
>                         fff7ffffffffffff
>   bell percent:  50    bell pitch:  400    bell duration:  100
> Pointer Control:
>   acceleration:  20/10    threshold:  4
> Screen Saver:
>   prefer blanking:  no    allow exposures:  yes
>   timeout:  0    cycle:  0
> Colors:
>   default colormap:  0x20    BlackPixel:  0x0    WhitePixel:  0xffffff
> Font Path:
>   /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,built-ins
> DPMS (Energy Star):
>   Standby: 450    Suspend: 600    Off: 900
>   DPMS is Disabled
> 
> But if I repeat that query half san hour later, something has re-enabled 
> dpms.  Murphy?

If the system insists on setting dpms, can you change those three
numbers with   dpms 1 2 3   only using some *very* large numbers.

(DE stuff is beyond me.)

Cheers,
David.

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#223792

On Saturday 20 June 2020 20:57:38 David Wright wrote:

> On Sat 20 Jun 2020 at 20:37:09 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Saturday 20 June 2020 20:13:08 davidson wrote:
> > > On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > On Saturday 20 June 2020 18:22:56 davidson wrote:
> > > >> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > >>> Greetings all;
> > > >>> I am running an app that gets messed up if the screen blanker
> > > >>> kicks in, so I used xset to shut off dpms. Has no effect.  So
> > > >>> how do I shut the screen blanker down for the jobs duration?
> > >
> > > Since we seem to be troubleshooting, what is the output of
> > >
> > >   $ xset q
> >
> > gene@coyote:/media$ xset q
> > Keyboard Control:
> >   auto repeat:  on    key click percent:  10    LED mask:  00000000
> >   XKB indicators:
> >     00: Caps Lock:   off    01: Num Lock:    off    02: Scroll Lock:
> > off 03: Compose:     off    04: Kana:        off    05: Sleep:      
> > off 06: Suspend:     off    07: Mute:        off    08: Misc:       
> > off 09: Mail:        off    10: Charging:    off    11: Shift Lock: 
> > off 12: Group 2:     off    13: Mouse Keys:  off
> >   auto repeat delay:  594    repeat rate:  14
> >   auto repeating keys:  00ffffffdffffbbf
> >                         fadfffefffedffff
> >                         9fffffffffffffff
> >                         fff7ffffffffffff
> >   bell percent:  50    bell pitch:  400    bell duration:  100
> > Pointer Control:
> >   acceleration:  20/10    threshold:  4
> > Screen Saver:
> >   prefer blanking:  no    allow exposures:  yes
> >   timeout:  0    cycle:  0
> > Colors:
> >   default colormap:  0x20    BlackPixel:  0x0    WhitePixel: 
> > 0xffffff Font Path:
> >  
> > /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr
> >/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,/usr/shar
> >e/fonts/X11/100dpi,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,built-ins DPMS (Energy
> > Star):
> >   Standby: 450    Suspend: 600    Off: 900
> >   DPMS is Disabled
> >
> > But if I repeat that query half san hour later, something has
> > re-enabled dpms.  Murphy?
>
> If the system insists on setting dpms, can you change those three
> numbers with   dpms 1 2 3   only using some *very* large numbers.
>
> (DE stuff is beyond me.)
>
> Cheers,
> David.


I just gave that a try, with 3000 6000 and 9000
But ISTR doing that once before, quite a ways up the log and having it 
reset to 450 300 600 in a half hour.

I'll track it and see in the night when I'm up to water the daisys.  
Diabetic old farts like me are doomed to do that, its one way we get rid 
of surplus sugar.

Thanks.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#224050

On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 20 June 2020 20:57:38 David Wright wrote:
>
>> On Sat 20 Jun 2020 at 20:37:09 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> On Saturday 20 June 2020 20:13:08 davidson wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday 20 June 2020 18:22:56 davidson wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>>>>>> Greetings all;
>>>>>>> I am running an app that gets messed up if the screen blanker
>>>>>>> kicks in, so I used xset to shut off dpms. Has no effect.  So
>>>>>>> how do I shut the screen blanker down for the jobs duration?
>>>>
>>>> Since we seem to be troubleshooting, what is the output of
>>>>
>>>>   $ xset q
>>>
>>> gene@coyote:/media$ xset q
>>> Keyboard Control:
>>>   auto repeat:  on    key click percent:  10    LED mask:  00000000
>>>   XKB indicators:
>>>     00: Caps Lock:   off    01: Num Lock:    off    02: Scroll Lock:
>>> off 03: Compose:     off    04: Kana:        off    05: Sleep:
>>> off 06: Suspend:     off    07: Mute:        off    08: Misc:
>>> off 09: Mail:        off    10: Charging:    off    11: Shift Lock:
>>> off 12: Group 2:     off    13: Mouse Keys:  off
>>>   auto repeat delay:  594    repeat rate:  14
>>>   auto repeating keys:  00ffffffdffffbbf
>>>                         fadfffefffedffff
>>>                         9fffffffffffffff
>>>                         fff7ffffffffffff
>>>   bell percent:  50    bell pitch:  400    bell duration:  100
>>> Pointer Control:
>>>   acceleration:  20/10    threshold:  4
>>> Screen Saver:
>>>   prefer blanking:  no    allow exposures:  yes
>>>   timeout:  0    cycle:  0
>>> Colors:
>>>   default colormap:  0x20    BlackPixel:  0x0    WhitePixel:
>>> 0xffffff Font Path:
>>>
>>> /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr
>>> /share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,/usr/shar
>>> e/fonts/X11/100dpi,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,built-ins DPMS (Energy
>>> Star):
>>>   Standby: 450    Suspend: 600    Off: 900
>>>   DPMS is Disabled
>>>
>>> But if I repeat that query half san hour later, something has
>>> re-enabled dpms.  Murphy?
>>
>> If the system insists on setting dpms, can you change those three
>> numbers with   dpms 1 2 3   only using some *very* large numbers.
>>
>> (DE stuff is beyond me.)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> David.
>
>
> I just gave that a try, with 3000 6000 and 9000

How did that go?

> But ISTR doing that once before, quite a ways up the log and having
> it reset to 450 300 600 in a half hour.
>
> I'll track it and see in the night when I'm up to water the daisys.

How were the daisies holding up?

-- 
What do you want to take off? [hrzF or ?*] F
You were wearing a +0 robe.  The frost giant turns to flee.

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#224056

On Friday 26 June 2020 15:46:15 davidson wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Saturday 20 June 2020 20:57:38 David Wright wrote:
> >> On Sat 20 Jun 2020 at 20:37:09 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> >>> On Saturday 20 June 2020 20:13:08 davidson wrote:
> >>>> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >>>>> On Saturday 20 June 2020 18:22:56 davidson wrote:
> >>>>>> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >>>>>>> Greetings all;
> >>>>>>> I am running an app that gets messed up if the screen blanker
> >>>>>>> kicks in, so I used xset to shut off dpms. Has no effect.  So
> >>>>>>> how do I shut the screen blanker down for the jobs duration?
> >>>>
> >>>> Since we seem to be troubleshooting, what is the output of
> >>>>
> >>>>   $ xset q
> >>>
> >>> gene@coyote:/media$ xset q
> >>> Keyboard Control:
> >>>   auto repeat:  on    key click percent:  10    LED mask: 
> >>> 00000000 XKB indicators:
> >>>     00: Caps Lock:   off    01: Num Lock:    off    02: Scroll
> >>> Lock: off 03: Compose:     off    04: Kana:        off    05:
> >>> Sleep: off 06: Suspend:     off    07: Mute:        off    08:
> >>> Misc: off 09: Mail:        off    10: Charging:    off    11:
> >>> Shift Lock: off 12: Group 2:     off    13: Mouse Keys:  off
> >>>   auto repeat delay:  594    repeat rate:  14
> >>>   auto repeating keys:  00ffffffdffffbbf
> >>>                         fadfffefffedffff
> >>>                         9fffffffffffffff
> >>>                         fff7ffffffffffff
> >>>   bell percent:  50    bell pitch:  400    bell duration:  100
> >>> Pointer Control:
> >>>   acceleration:  20/10    threshold:  4
> >>> Screen Saver:
> >>>   prefer blanking:  no    allow exposures:  yes
> >>>   timeout:  0    cycle:  0
> >>> Colors:
> >>>   default colormap:  0x20    BlackPixel:  0x0    WhitePixel:
> >>> 0xffffff Font Path:
> >>>
> >>> /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,/u
> >>>sr
> >>> /share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,/usr/s
> >>>har e/fonts/X11/100dpi,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,built-ins DPMS
> >>> (Energy Star):
> >>>   Standby: 450    Suspend: 600    Off: 900
> >>>   DPMS is Disabled
> >>>
> >>> But if I repeat that query half san hour later, something has
> >>> re-enabled dpms.  Murphy?
> >>
> >> If the system insists on setting dpms, can you change those three
> >> numbers with   dpms 1 2 3   only using some *very* large numbers.
> >>
> >> (DE stuff is beyond me.)
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> David.
> >
> > I just gave that a try, with 3000 6000 and 9000
>
> How did that go?

I can turn it off, once, then its back to the 7.5 minute defaults. I've 
given up. I cannot force it on for more than 7.5 minutes by anything but 
a mouse wiggler.

And I'm now alone, they finally found a rest home for my missus, but she 
is quarantined for 2 weeks. At nearly 8g's a month.  Out in the sticks, 
at least a 1:20 drive from here.  And getting sick of my own cooking, 
but I've been doing all that since she fell and broke a hip nearly 4 
years ago.


> > But ISTR doing that once before, quite a ways up the log and having
> > it reset to 450 300 600 in a half hour.
> >
> > I'll track it and see in the night when I'm up to water the daisys.
>
> How were the daisies holding up?

Not well. ;-)

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#224065

On Friday, June 26, 2020 04:33:58 PM Gene Heskett wrote:
> And I'm now alone, they finally found a rest home for my missus, but she
> is quarantined for 2 weeks. At nearly 8g's a month.  Out in the sticks,
> at least a 1:20 drive from here.  And getting sick of my own cooking,
> but I've been doing all that since she fell and broke a hip nearly 4
> years ago.

It's probably good for your missus, but I'm sorry for your difficulties.

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#224110

On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Friday 26 June 2020 15:46:15 davidson wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> On Saturday 20 June 2020 20:57:38 David Wright wrote:
>>>> On Sat 20 Jun 2020 at 20:37:09 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday 20 June 2020 20:13:08 davidson wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>>>>>> On Saturday 20 June 2020 18:22:56 davidson wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Greetings all;
>>>>>>>>> I am running an app that gets messed up if the screen blanker
>>>>>>>>> kicks in, so I used xset to shut off dpms. Has no effect.  So
>>>>>>>>> how do I shut the screen blanker down for the jobs duration?
                                                 ^^^ ^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^

Mark that goal post.

>>>>> [... davidson wrote:]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since we seem to be troubleshooting, what is the output of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   $ xset q
>>>>>
>>>>> gene@coyote:/media$ xset q
[snip]
>>>>> DPMS (Energy Star):
>>>>>   Standby: 450    Suspend: 600    Off: 900
>>>>>   DPMS is Disabled
>>>>>
>>>>> But if I repeat that query half san hour later, something has
>>>>> re-enabled dpms.  Murphy?
>>> [... David Wright wrote:]
>>>>
>>>> If the system insists on setting dpms, can you change those three
>>>> numbers with   dpms 1 2 3   only using some *very* large numbers.
>>>>
>>>> (DE stuff is beyond me.)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> David.
>> [... Gene Heskett wrote:]
>>>
>>> I just gave that a try, with 3000 6000 and 9000
>>
>> How did that go?
>
> I can turn it off, once,
         ^^^^ ^^ ^^^  ^^^^

What does this mean, exactly?

Are you telling us that yes, the requested setting is *obeyed* for the
duration of that particular X session? (I cannot figure out anything
else it might mean.)

Like, did you (in that desktop session) get 50 minutes of not-blank
screentime before standby mode kicked in after you issued

  $ xset dpms 3000 6000 9000

?

If so, then David's method does precisely what you asked for in your
original post, and it would be helpful --for the sake of people
reading the list archives at least-- for you to confirm that
unambiguously.

How about it? Yes or No?

> then its back to the 7.5 minute defaults.
> I've given up. I cannot force it on for more than 7.5 minutes by
> anything but a mouse wiggler.

I might just come over there and mouse wiggle *you* if you don't drop
the damn Rodney Dangerfield routine.

Put on your big boy technician pants and properly exchange
troubleshooting information with your interested peers.

> And I'm now alone, they finally found a rest home for my missus, but
> she is quarantined for 2 weeks. At nearly 8g's a month.  Out in the
> sticks, at least a 1:20 drive from here.  And getting sick of my own
> cooking, but I've been doing all that since she fell and broke a hip
> nearly 4 years ago.

New occassions teach new duties. Saw that inscribed in granite
once. Guess it must be true.

But take care of yourself, whatever else you do.

-- 
What do you want to take off? [hrzF or ?*] F
You were wearing a +0 robe.  The frost giant turns to flee.

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#224111

On Saturday 27 June 2020 11:26:32 davidson wrote:

> On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Friday 26 June 2020 15:46:15 davidson wrote:
> >> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 Gene Heskett wrote:
> >>> On Saturday 20 June 2020 20:57:38 David Wright wrote:
> >>>> On Sat 20 Jun 2020 at 20:37:09 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> >>>>> On Saturday 20 June 2020 20:13:08 davidson wrote:
> >>>>>> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Saturday 20 June 2020 18:22:56 davidson wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Greetings all;
> >>>>>>>>> I am running an app that gets messed up if the screen
> >>>>>>>>> blanker kicks in, so I used xset to shut off dpms. Has no
> >>>>>>>>> effect.  So how do I shut the screen blanker down for the
> >>>>>>>>> jobs duration?
>
>                                                  ^^^ ^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^
>
> Mark that goal post.
>
> >>>>> [... davidson wrote:]
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Since we seem to be troubleshooting, what is the output of
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>   $ xset q
> >>>>>
> >>>>> gene@coyote:/media$ xset q
>
> [snip]
>
> >>>>> DPMS (Energy Star):
> >>>>>   Standby: 450    Suspend: 600    Off: 900
> >>>>>   DPMS is Disabled
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But if I repeat that query half san hour later, something has
> >>>>> re-enabled dpms.  Murphy?
> >>>
> >>> [... David Wright wrote:]
> >>>
> >>>> If the system insists on setting dpms, can you change those three
> >>>> numbers with   dpms 1 2 3   only using some *very* large numbers.
> >>>>
> >>>> (DE stuff is beyond me.)
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> David.
> >>
> >> [... Gene Heskett wrote:]
> >>
> >>> I just gave that a try, with 3000 6000 and 9000
> >>
> >> How did that go?
> >
> > I can turn it off, once,
>
>          ^^^^ ^^ ^^^  ^^^^
>
> What does this mean, exactly?
>
> Are you telling us that yes, the requested setting is *obeyed* for the
> duration of that particular X session? (I cannot figure out anything
> else it might mean.)
>
> Like, did you (in that desktop session) get 50 minutes of not-blank
> screentime before standby mode kicked in after you issued
>
>   $ xset dpms 3000 6000 9000
>
> ?
No but it was a couple minutes longer than its carved in stone 7.5 minute 
default.

> If so, then David's method does precisely what you asked for in your
> original post, and it would be helpful --for the sake of people
> reading the list archives at least-- for you to confirm that
> unambiguously.
>
> How about it? Yes or No?
>
> > then its back to the 7.5 minute defaults.
> > I've given up. I cannot force it on for more than 7.5 minutes by
> > anything but a mouse wiggler.
>
> I might just come over there and mouse wiggle *you* if you don't drop
> the damn Rodney Dangerfield routine.

Hey, at my age, 85, I've earned that right. ;-) Then too, this IS 2nd 
Amendment country.
>
> Put on your big boy technician pants and properly exchange
> troubleshooting information with your interested peers.

> > And I'm now alone, they finally found a rest home for my missus, but
> > she is quarantined for 2 weeks. At nearly 8g's a month.  Out in the
> > sticks, at least a 1:20 drive from here.  And getting sick of my own
> > cooking, but I've been doing all that since she fell and broke a hip
> > nearly 4 years ago.
>
> New occassions teach new duties. Saw that inscribed in granite
> once. Guess it must be true.

So it seems, TANSTAAFL is a law you cannot break. She is my third, had 
her 30 years now. Good woman.

> But take care of yourself, whatever else you do.

I'm trying. My card case, with its spare parts installed list is getting 
fat though.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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