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  Finding application's description Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2020-06-06 16:40 +0200
    Re: Finding application's description Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-06-06 17:10 +0200
      Re: Finding application's description Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2020-06-06 17:30 +0200
        Re: Finding application's description Håkon Alstadheim <hakon@alstadheim.priv.no> - 2020-06-06 19:00 +0200
      Re: Finding application's description Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-06-08 13:20 +0200
        Re: Finding application's description Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-06-08 15:50 +0200
    Re: Finding application's description David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2020-06-07 14:10 +0200
      Re: Finding application's description Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2020-06-07 16:40 +0200
      Re: Finding application's description Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-06-08 13:20 +0200

#223117 — Finding application's description

I've just installed Buster and am selecting which apps on my Stretch 
machine I wish to continue to use.

For some reason I had installed Gdebi.
I can't find a good description on which base a decision.
https://packages.debian.org lists no homepage.
https://manpages.debian.org links to https://launchpad.net/gdebi/ which 
gives no descriptive material.
 From search engine hits I gather was developed when Ubuntu made 
installation of deb files inconvenient.
In a straight Debian environment, does it give any advantage over 
Synaptic &/or apt?

IIRC I used it when following the development of an app which was not 
yet in a official repository.

TIA

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#223118

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On Sb, 06 iun 20, 09:37:11, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I've just installed Buster and am selecting which apps on my Stretch machine
> I wish to continue to use.
> 
> For some reason I had installed Gdebi.
> I can't find a good description on which base a decision.
> https://packages.debian.org lists no homepage.
> https://manpages.debian.org links to https://launchpad.net/gdebi/ which
> gives no descriptive material.
> From search engine hits I gather was developed when Ubuntu made installation
> of deb files inconvenient.
> In a straight Debian environment, does it give any advantage over Synaptic
> &/or apt?

As per the description, gdebi is for local (i.e. downloaded .deb files) 
so it provides a function that synaptic does not.

In the meantime APT can install local packages as well, so its only 
advantages appear to be:

  - GUI
  - scanning with lintian

On the other hand, looking at its Tracker page[1] it appears to be
unmaintained:

  - old-old-stable (jessie): 0.9.5.5+nmu1
  - old-stable (stretch):    0.9.5.7+nmu1
  - stable (buster)          0.9.5.7+nmu3
  - testing (bullseye)       0.9.5.7+nmu3
  - unstable (sid):          0.9.5.7+nmu3

It looks like no or very limited development upstream (or newer versions 
were not packages for Debian - didn't check) and the package in Debian 
has been maintained by others (NMU = Non-Maintainer Upload).


[1] https://tracker.debian.org/gdebi

Hope this helps,
Andrei
-- 
http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

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#223120

On 06/06/2020 10:08 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Sb, 06 iun 20, 09:37:11, Richard Owlett wrote:
>> I've just installed Buster and am selecting which apps on my Stretch machine
>> I wish to continue to use.
>>
>> For some reason I had installed Gdebi.
>> I can't find a good description on which base a decision.
>> https://packages.debian.org lists no homepage.
>> https://manpages.debian.org links to https://launchpad.net/gdebi/ which
>> gives no descriptive material.
>>  From search engine hits I gather was developed when Ubuntu made installation
>> of deb files inconvenient.
>> In a straight Debian environment, does it give any advantage over Synaptic
>> &/or apt?
> 
> As per the description, gdebi is for local (i.e. downloaded .deb files)
> so it provides a function that synaptic does not.
> 
> In the meantime APT can install local packages as well, so its only
> advantages appear to be:
> 

I stay with apt for that function.
Thanks.

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#223126

Den 06.06.2020 17:22, skrev Richard Owlett:
> On 06/06/2020 10:08 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>> On Sb, 06 iun 20, 09:37:11, Richard Owlett wrote:
>>> I've just installed Buster and am selecting which apps on my Stretch 
>>> machine
>>> I wish to continue to use.
>>>
>>> For some reason I had installed Gdebi.
>>> I can't find a good description on which base a decision.
>>> https://packages.debian.org lists no homepage.
>>> https://manpages.debian.org links to https://launchpad.net/gdebi/ which
>>> gives no descriptive material.
>>>  From search engine hits I gather was developed when Ubuntu made 
>>> installation
>>> of deb files inconvenient.
>>> In a straight Debian environment, does it give any advantage over 
>>> Synaptic
>>> &/or apt?
>>
>> As per the description, gdebi is for local (i.e. downloaded .deb files)
>> so it provides a function that synaptic does not.
>>
>> In the meantime APT can install local packages as well, so its only
>> advantages appear to be:
>>
>
> I stay with apt for that function.
> Thanks.
>
>
>
You probably installed it to conveniently pull in dependencies in 
debian  of a .deb file from a 3rd party.

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#223236

On Sat, Jun 06, 2020 at 06:08:48PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> As per the description, gdebi is for local (i.e. downloaded .deb files) 
> so it provides a function that synaptic does not.

For the record, gdebi is basically obsolete these days.  Its main
feature ("install a local .deb plus all of its dependencies") has
been incorporated into apt-get and apt.

apt install ./some-local-file.deb

Don't forget the leading ./ characters.  They are required so that apt
knows this is a pathname rather than a packagename.  You're also allowed
to specify a pathname with leading / or leading ../ characters.

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#223242

On Mon 08 Jun 2020 at 07:17:17 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:

> On Sat, Jun 06, 2020 at 06:08:48PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > As per the description, gdebi is for local (i.e. downloaded .deb files) 
> > so it provides a function that synaptic does not.
> 
> For the record, gdebi is basically obsolete these days.  Its main
> feature ("install a local .deb plus all of its dependencies") has
> been incorporated into apt-get and apt.
> 
> apt install ./some-local-file.deb
> 
> Don't forget the leading ./ characters.  They are required so that apt
> knows this is a pathname rather than a packagename.  You're also allowed
> to specify a pathname with leading / or leading ../ characters.

Many users find gdebi very convenient to use, partularly when it is
associated with a double-click on a filename.

-- 
Brian.

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#223161

On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 at 00:37, Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:

> I've just installed Buster and am selecting which apps on my Stretch
> machine I wish to continue to use.

> For some reason I had installed Gdebi.
> I can't find a good description on which base a decision.

$ apt show gdebi
[...]
Description: simple tool to view and install deb files - GNOME GUI
 gdebi lets you install local deb packages resolving and installing
 its dependencies. apt does the same, but only for remote (http, ftp)
 located packages.
The package is also scanned via lintian before the install and its
 possible to inspect the control and data members of the packages.
This package contains the graphical user interface.

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#223166

On 06/07/2020 07:07 AM, David wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 at 00:37, Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:
> 
>> I've just installed Buster and am selecting which apps on my Stretch
>> machine I wish to continue to use.
> 
>> For some reason I had installed Gdebi.
>> I can't find a good description on which base a decision.
> 
> $ apt show gdebi

I had seen
     apt show <pkg name>
a long time ago but had forgotten it.
Thanks

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#223235

On Sun, Jun 07, 2020 at 10:07:18PM +1000, David wrote:
> $ apt show gdebi
> [...]
> Description: simple tool to view and install deb files - GNOME GUI
>  gdebi lets you install local deb packages resolving and installing
>  its dependencies. apt does the same, but only for remote (http, ftp)
>  located packages.

That last sentence is out of date.  apt does that for local files now.

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