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  Mail transfer agent "mike.junk.46@att.net" <mike.junk.46@att.net> - 2020-09-24 03:50 +0200
    Re: Mail transfer agent Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-09-24 04:20 +0200
      Re: Mail transfer agent "mike.junk.46@att.net" <mike.junk.46@att.net> - 2020-09-24 16:00 +0200
        Re: Mail transfer agent David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-09-24 17:10 +0200
        Re: Mail transfer agent Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-09-24 19:20 +0200
          Re: Mail transfer agent mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2020-09-24 23:30 +0200
            Re: Mail transfer agent Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-09-25 10:00 +0200
              Re: Mail transfer agent mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2020-09-25 11:40 +0200
    Re: Mail transfer agent David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-09-24 04:40 +0200
    Re: Mail transfer agent Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-09-24 09:00 +0200

#227278 — Mail transfer agent

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When I installed a minimal system on my Raspberry PI no mta was installed.Though mutt claims to be a mta it seems it only will fetch mail not send it.Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.After struggling with postfix for several days without being able to send or receive mai,l except like now via webmail, I'm about ready to go back to exim4 even though it's overkill for a single user on a single computer. Is there a light weight mta appropriate for a single user that's easy to configure?Thanks, Mike

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#227279

mike.junk.46@att.net wrote: 
> When I installed a minimal system on my Raspberry PI no mta was installed.Though mutt claims to be a mta it seems it only will fetch mail not send it.Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.After struggling with postfix for several days without being able to send or receive mai,l except like now via webmail, I'm about ready to go back to exim4 even though it's overkill for a single user on a single computer. Is there a light weight mta appropriate for a single user that's easy to configure?Thanks,??Mike


mutt is an MUA, not an MTA. 

What tasks do you want your mail server to perform? Please be
specific. We will have better advice for you once we know
exactly what you want to have happen.

-dsr-

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    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020, 09:14:42 PM CDT, Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> wrote:  
 mutt is an MUA, not an MTA. 

What tasks do you want your mail server to perform? Please be
specific. We will have better advice for you once we know
exactly what you want to have happen.
-dsr-
Thanks, Dan,All I need from an MTA is:1) take mail from fetchmail and put it in a mailbox for mutt to display,2) take mail from mutt and send it to my ISP via smtp3) take messages from the system, eg: cron and deliver them to that same mailbox4) take a simple message on the CL such as:    echo 'blah' | mail -s 'oops' noone@example.com

I've been using exim for years and it works well but is overkill for my needs.
Thanks,Mike
  

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#227300

On Thu 24 Sep 2020 at 13:35:17 (+0000), mike.junk.46@att.net wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 23, 2020, 09:14:42 PM CDT, Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> wrote:  
>  mutt is an MUA, not an MTA. 
> 
> What tasks do you want your mail server to perform? Please be
> specific. We will have better advice for you once we know
> exactly what you want to have happen.
> -dsr-
> Thanks, Dan,All I need from an MTA is:
> 1) take mail from fetchmail and put it in a mailbox for mutt to display,

I thought that's what fetchmail did, and what mutt can do,
the difference being that fetchmail would put them onto your
system while you slept, whereas mutt would fetch them on demand.

> 2) take mail from mutt and send it to my ISP via smtp

I covered that in my previous post.

> 3) take messages from the system, eg: cron and deliver them to that same mailbox

dma might be enough for doing that.

> 4) take a simple message on the CL such as:    echo 'blah' | mail -s 'oops' noone@example.com

I use mailx (in mailutils), but mutt can also do it.

> I've been using exim for years and it works well but is overkill for my needs.

Size or complexity? The size of the binary is comparable with mutt.
Granted, there's more documentation, but one barely need touch it
for the above.

Cheers,
David.

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#227307

On Thu 24 Sep 2020 at 13:35:17 +0000, mike.junk.46@att.net wrote:

>  
>     On Wednesday, September 23, 2020, 09:14:42 PM CDT, Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> wrote:  
>  mutt is an MUA, not an MTA. 
> 
> What tasks do you want your mail server to perform? Please be
> specific. We will have better advice for you once we know
> exactly what you want to have happen.
> -dsr-
> Thanks, Dan,All I need from an MTA is:1) take mail from fetchmail and
> put it in a mailbox for mutt to display,2) take mail from mutt and
> send it to my ISP via smtp3) take messages from the system, eg: cron
> and deliver them to that same mailbox4) take a simple message on the
> CL such as:    echo 'blah' | mail -s 'oops' noone@example.com
> 
> I've been using exim for years and it works well but is overkill for
> my needs.

I too have been using exim for years in a similar way to the way you
describe. It does the job very well and I just let it get on with it.
I don't really understand what you mean by "overkill" and think you are
fussing over nothing.

-- 
Brian.

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#227311

On 2020-09-24 18:19, Brian wrote:
> On Thu 24 Sep 2020 at 13:35:17 +0000, mike.junk.46@att.net wrote:
> 
>> 
>>     On Wednesday, September 23, 2020, 09:14:42 PM CDT, Dan Ritter 
>> <dsr@randomstring.org> wrote:
>>  mutt is an MUA, not an MTA. 
>> 
>> What tasks do you want your mail server to perform? Please be
>> specific. We will have better advice for you once we know
>> exactly what you want to have happen.
>> -dsr-
>> Thanks, Dan,All I need from an MTA is:1) take mail from fetchmail and
>> put it in a mailbox for mutt to display,2) take mail from mutt and
>> send it to my ISP via smtp3) take messages from the system, eg: cron
>> and deliver them to that same mailbox4) take a simple message on the
>> CL such as:    echo 'blah' | mail -s 'oops' noone@example.com
>> 
>> I've been using exim for years and it works well but is overkill for
>> my needs.
> 
> I too have been using exim for years in a similar way to the way you
> describe. It does the job very well and I just let it get on with it.
> I don't really understand what you mean by "overkill" and think you are
> fussing over nothing.

I know how I get mail.
I've been using roundcube for a few years. I know I put in the SMTP 
server, account and password for being allowed in the configuration but 
I actually have no idea what is used for the sending. I probably should.

mick



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#227323

On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 22:29:32 +0100
mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2020-09-24 18:19, Brian wrote:
> > On Thu 24 Sep 2020 at 13:35:17 +0000, mike.junk.46@att.net wrote:
> >   
> >> 
> >>     On Wednesday, September 23, 2020, 09:14:42 PM CDT, Dan Ritter 
> >> <dsr@randomstring.org> wrote:
> >>  mutt is an MUA, not an MTA. 
> >> 
> >> What tasks do you want your mail server to perform? Please be
> >> specific. We will have better advice for you once we know
> >> exactly what you want to have happen.
> >> -dsr-
> >> Thanks, Dan,All I need from an MTA is:1) take mail from fetchmail
> >> and put it in a mailbox for mutt to display,2) take mail from mutt
> >> and send it to my ISP via smtp3) take messages from the system,
> >> eg: cron and deliver them to that same mailbox4) take a simple
> >> message on the CL such as:    echo 'blah' | mail -s 'oops'
> >> noone@example.com
> >> 
> >> I've been using exim for years and it works well but is overkill
> >> for my needs.  
> > 
> > I too have been using exim for years in a similar way to the way you
> > describe. It does the job very well and I just let it get on with
> > it. I don't really understand what you mean by "overkill" and think
> > you are fussing over nothing.  
> 
> I know how I get mail.
> I've been using roundcube for a few years. I know I put in the SMTP 
> server, account and password for being allowed in the configuration
> but I actually have no idea what is used for the sending. I probably
> should.
> 

If you haven't done anything yourself, it will be exim4-light. If it's
not taking raw mail straight from the Net, it doesn't need much in the
way of care and feeding. 

Mine is quite aggressively anti-spam, and it only gets a few minor
tweaks a year. I can't remember when I last modified its main
configuration file.

-- 
Joe

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#227324

On 2020-09-25 08:56, Joe wrote:

> If you haven't done anything yourself, it will be exim4-light.

thanks

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#227280

On Thu 24 Sep 2020 at 01:24:13 (+0000), mike.junk.46@att.net wrote:
> When I installed a minimal system on my Raspberry PI no mta was installed.
> Though mutt claims to be a mta it seems it only will fetch mail not send it.
> Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

It's an MUA, so you can send emails via your ISP's smarthost
submission port. You need to set lines like the following in
your muttrc:

set·····smtp_url="smtp://loginname@smtp.server.net:587/"$
set·····smtp_pass="accountpassword"$
set·····smtp_authenticators="plain"$
set·····envelope_from_address="username@domainname.tld"$
set·····use_envelope_from$

where:

loginname and accountpassword are the authentication pair for the
smarthost,

smtp.server.net:587 is the smarthost and port number,

plain assumes you're using TLS encryption on the connection, so the
password is sent in plaintext,

username@domainname.tld is an routeable email address (ie a real one)
that the smarthost will accept for authorisation (ie for MAIL FROM:).

You may need to read-protect the file as there's a password in it.

> After struggling with postfix for several days without being able
> to send or receive mail, except like now via webmail, I'm about
> ready to go back to exim4 even though it's overkill for a single
> user on a single computer. Is there a light weight mta appropriate
> for a single user that's easy to configure?

Actually I use exim for all my emails except this list, where I use
mutt itself.

Cheers,
David.

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#227283

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On Jo, 24 sep 20, 01:24:13, mike.junk.46@att.net wrote:
> When I installed a minimal system on my Raspberry PI no mta was 
> installed.Though mutt claims to be a mta it seems it only will fetch 
> mail not send it.Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

This mail is sent using (neo)mutt's SMTP support.

At a minimum you must set 'smtp_url' in your muttrc. If you don't 
specify username and password mutt will ask for it interactively.

See 'man muttrc' for more details.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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