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  Best way to install not-last-version package (on Testing)? riveravaldez <riveravaldezmail@gmail.com> - 2020-04-19 01:30 +0200
    Re: Best way to install not-last-version package (on Testing)? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2020-04-19 01:40 +0200
    Re: Best way to install not-last-version package (on Testing)? Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-04-19 09:00 +0200
      Re: Best way to install not-last-version package (on Testing)? riveravaldez <riveravaldezmail@gmail.com> - 2020-09-03 17:20 +0200
        Re: Best way to install not-last-version package (on Testing)? Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-09-04 08:30 +0200

#221652 — Best way to install not-last-version package (on Testing)?

Hi,

I'm in the situation of trying to install 'reportbug' and
'virt-manager' (but the question is in general, for any
package/situation) in Debian Testing and both have dependencies with
serious bugs which make the installation potentially problematic...

In a case like this, which would be the best solution?

I thought on installing some near-previous version of both packages,
but, where can I find those? Is there a Debian Archive of some kind
for cases like this?

If there is, should I use something like 'gdebi'?, or there's a
completely cleaner/proper way to manage this situations?

Thanks (a lot). And good weekend to everybody.

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#221654

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 08:19:43PM -0300, riveravaldez wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm in the situation of trying to install 'reportbug' and
> 'virt-manager' (but the question is in general, for any
> package/situation) in Debian Testing and both have dependencies with
> serious bugs which make the installation potentially problematic...
> 
> In a case like this, which would be the best solution?
> 
> I thought on installing some near-previous version of both packages,
> but, where can I find those? Is there a Debian Archive of some kind
> for cases like this?
> 
> If there is, should I use something like 'gdebi'?, or there's a
> completely cleaner/proper way to manage this situations?
> 
> Thanks (a lot). And good weekend to everybody.
> 
I recommend http://snapshot.debian.org/

Regards,

-Roberto

-- 
Roberto C. Sánchez

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On Sb, 18 apr 20, 20:19:43, riveravaldez wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm in the situation of trying to install 'reportbug' and
> 'virt-manager' (but the question is in general, for any
> package/situation) in Debian Testing and both have dependencies with
> serious bugs which make the installation potentially problematic...
> 
> In a case like this, which would be the best solution?

It depends :)

Is the bug relevant for you? Are there known (suitable) workarounds? 
What benefits does the newer package bring? Is the older package even 
compatible with your other packages (keyword: versioned depends)?

> I thought on installing some near-previous version of both packages,
> but, where can I find those? Is there a Debian Archive of some kind
> for cases like this?

As already mentioned, there is snapshot.debian.org, though the older 
package is not necessarily better, e.g. the bugs might be present in the 
older version as well (the version information in the BTS is not 
necessarily accurate), or the newer package might have fixed other, more 
important (for you) bugs.

Kind regards,
Andrei
-- 
http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

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#226673

On 4/19/20, Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sb, 18 apr 20, 20:19:43, riveravaldez wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm in the situation of trying to install 'reportbug' and
>> 'virt-manager' (but the question is in general, for any
>> package/situation) in Debian Testing and both have dependencies with
>> serious bugs which make the installation potentially problematic...
>>
>> In a case like this, which would be the best solution?
>
> It depends :)
>
> Is the bug relevant for you? Are there known (suitable) workarounds?
> What benefits does the newer package bring? Is the older package even
> compatible with your other packages (keyword: versioned depends)?
>
>> I thought on installing some near-previous version of both packages,
>> but, where can I find those? Is there a Debian Archive of some kind
>> for cases like this?
>
> As already mentioned, there is snapshot.debian.org, though the older
> package is not necessarily better, e.g. the bugs might be present in the
> older version as well (the version information in the BTS is not
> necessarily accurate), or the newer package might have fixed other, more
> important (for you) bugs.
>
> Kind regards,
> Andrei
> --
> http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

Thanks A LOT for this really instructive answers, Andrei.

In fact, at last, "Is the bug relevant for you?" was the pertinent
case. (The bugs resulted, after some research, no relevant for my
actual use.)

In the line of the mail-subject:

$ sudo gdebi package_name.deb

$ sudo apt install package_name.deb

Which would be the more appropriate/recommended way/method to install
a .deb file already downloaded?

Thanks again.

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On Jo, 03 sep 20, 12:09:58, riveravaldez wrote:
> 
> In the line of the mail-subject:
> 
> $ sudo gdebi package_name.deb
> 
> $ sudo apt install package_name.deb
> 
> Which would be the more appropriate/recommended way/method to install
> a .deb file already downloaded?

APT is already installed and gdebi appears to be unmaintained.

Just don't forget to prepend ./ (or use the full path) for 'apt' 
otherwise it will assume you want to download a package with the name 
'package_name.deb' (which most likely doesn't exist).


    apt install /full/path/to/file.deb

    apt install ./file.deb # if you are already in the correct directory


Kind regards,
Andrei
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http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

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