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First post2020-09-03 13:00 +0200
Last post2020-09-04 23:30 +0200
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  Journal Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-09-03 13:00 +0200
    Re: Journal Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-09-03 14:20 +0200
      Re: Journal Francisco M Neto <fmneto@fmneto.com> - 2020-09-03 17:00 +0200
        Re: Journal Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-09-03 17:20 +0200
          Re: Journal Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-09-03 20:30 +0200
            Re: Journal Bob McGowan <ramjr0915@gmail.com> - 2020-09-03 20:50 +0200
              Re: Journal Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-09-04 10:00 +0200
      Re: Journal deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-09-03 20:20 +0200
    Re: Journal Humberto Freitas <humberto.freitas310@gmail.com> - 2020-09-03 14:30 +0200
      Re: Journal l0f4r0@tuta.io - 2020-09-05 00:10 +0200
    Re: Journal Matthew Graybosch <hello@matthewgraybosch.com> - 2020-09-03 15:30 +0200
    Re: Journal Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2020-09-03 16:10 +0200
    Re: Journal rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-09-03 22:50 +0200
    Re: Journal rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-09-03 22:50 +0200
    Re: Journal David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2020-09-03 23:50 +0200
      Re: Journal Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-09-04 10:50 +0200
        Re: Journal Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-09-04 23:30 +0200

#226663 — Journal

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2020-09-03 13:00 +0200
SubjectJournal
Message-ID<AKV8d-6bK-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
I've finally decided I have to keep a diary. 

In Debian are RoboJournal and Lifeograph.

Neither of them actually function, at least in sid. Does anyone have any
other ideas, apart from phpMyAdmin or Mysql Workbench?

-- 
Joe

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#226664

FromDan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org>
Date2020-09-03 14:20 +0200
Message-ID<AKWnE-76c-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#226663
Joe wrote: 
> I've finally decided I have to keep a diary. 
> 
> In Debian are RoboJournal and Lifeograph.
> 
> Neither of them actually function, at least in sid. Does anyone have any
> other ideas, apart from phpMyAdmin or Mysql Workbench?

If you want to publish a blog, I recommend Pelican. If you don't
want to publish anything, I recommend using your text editor of 
choice in a directory structure, with one file per day or week
or month depending on your desire.

-dsr-

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#226671

FromFrancisco M Neto <fmneto@fmneto.com>
Date2020-09-03 17:00 +0200
Message-ID<AKYSu-8tL-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#226664

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On Thu, 2020-09-03 at 08:15 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
> Joe wrote: 
> > Neither of them actually function, at least in sid. Does anyone have any
> > other ideas, apart from phpMyAdmin or Mysql Workbench?
> 
> If you want to publish a blog, I recommend Pelican. If you don't
> want to publish anything, I recommend using your text editor of 
> choice in a directory structure, with one file per day or week
> or month depending on your desire.

	I never heard of Pelican. What's the difference between it and other
solutions like Wordpress or Joomla?

-- 
[]'s,

Francisco M Neto <fmneto@fmneto.com>
www.fmneto.com

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#226672

FromDan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org>
Date2020-09-03 17:20 +0200
Message-ID<AKZbQ-o4-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#226671
Francisco M Neto wrote: 
> On Thu, 2020-09-03 at 08:15 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
> > Joe wrote: 
> > > Neither of them actually function, at least in sid. Does anyone have any
> > > other ideas, apart from phpMyAdmin or Mysql Workbench?
> > 
> > If you want to publish a blog, I recommend Pelican. If you don't
> > want to publish anything, I recommend using your text editor of 
> > choice in a directory structure, with one file per day or week
> > or month depending on your desire.
> 
> 	I never heard of Pelican. What's the difference between it and other
> solutions like Wordpress or Joomla?

Pelican is a static site generator. You write your content in
MarkDown or RST, and then Pelican compiles it into a website by
applying a theme and CSS styles.

Performance is high, because your webserver is only handing out
existing files. Security is high, because your webserver isn't
allowing any writes to anything.

My personal blog is at https://blog.randomstring.org 

You can see many examples at http://pelicanthemes.com

Pelican is packaged for Debian. Although we are a few releases
behind mainline, the difference is all in new features, not 
security.

-dsr-

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#226680

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2020-09-03 20:30 +0200
Message-ID<AL29I-2dF-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#226672
On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 11:11:56 -0400
Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> wrote:


> Pelican is a static site generator. You write your content in
> MarkDown or RST, and then Pelican compiles it into a website by
> applying a theme and CSS styles.
> 
> Performance is high, because your webserver is only handing out
> existing files. Security is high, because your webserver isn't
> allowing any writes to anything.
> 
> My personal blog is at https://blog.randomstring.org 
> 
> You can see many examples at http://pelicanthemes.com
> 
> Pelican is packaged for Debian. Although we are a few releases
> behind mainline, the difference is all in new features, not 
> security.
> 

Thanks for all the suggestions. I'm not looking for a CMS system, just
a diary. Either Robojournal (if it was maintained) or Lifeograph (if it
worked at all) would be fine.

For now, I'll go with phpMyAdmin, and throw together a frontend in PHP
when I have time and enthusiasm.

-- 
Joe

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#226681

FromBob McGowan <ramjr0915@gmail.com>
Date2020-09-03 20:50 +0200
Message-ID<AL2t4-2jZ-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#226680
On 9/3/20 11:20 AM, Joe wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 11:11:56 -0400
> Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> wrote:
> 
> 
>> Pelican is a static site generator. You write your content in
>> MarkDown or RST, and then Pelican compiles it into a website by
>> applying a theme and CSS styles.
>>
>> Performance is high, because your webserver is only handing out
>> existing files. Security is high, because your webserver isn't
>> allowing any writes to anything.
>>
>> My personal blog is at https://blog.randomstring.org
>>
>> You can see many examples at http://pelicanthemes.com
>>
>> Pelican is packaged for Debian. Although we are a few releases
>> behind mainline, the difference is all in new features, not
>> security.
>>
> 
> Thanks for all the suggestions. I'm not looking for a CMS system, just
> a diary. Either Robojournal (if it was maintained) or Lifeograph (if it
> worked at all) would be fine.

I just installed Lifeograph, out of curiosity mostly.  It installed and 
runs, but does not have a modifiable window, is that what you mean by 
"not working"?

I maximized the window and there was then enough territory to actually 
see and read the stock "diaries".  Perhaps this is enough to help you? 
I have not yet tried to create my own diary, so there may be other 
issues I haven't hit yet.

If not, a clearer description of "if it worked at all" would be helpful.

> 
> For now, I'll go with phpMyAdmin, and throw together a frontend in PHP
> when I have time and enthusiasm.
> 

Bob

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#226690

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2020-09-04 10:00 +0200
Message-ID<ALeNz-2d1-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#226681
On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 11:32:18 -0700
Bob McGowan <ramjr0915@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 9/3/20 11:20 AM, Joe wrote:
> > On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 11:11:56 -0400
> > Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> wrote:
> > 
> >   
> >> Pelican is a static site generator. You write your content in
> >> MarkDown or RST, and then Pelican compiles it into a website by
> >> applying a theme and CSS styles.
> >>
> >> Performance is high, because your webserver is only handing out
> >> existing files. Security is high, because your webserver isn't
> >> allowing any writes to anything.
> >>
> >> My personal blog is at https://blog.randomstring.org
> >>
> >> You can see many examples at http://pelicanthemes.com
> >>
> >> Pelican is packaged for Debian. Although we are a few releases
> >> behind mainline, the difference is all in new features, not
> >> security.
> >>  
> > 
> > Thanks for all the suggestions. I'm not looking for a CMS system,
> > just a diary. Either Robojournal (if it was maintained) or
> > Lifeograph (if it worked at all) would be fine.  
> 
> I just installed Lifeograph, out of curiosity mostly.  It installed
> and runs, but does not have a modifiable window, is that what you
> mean by "not working"?
> 
> I maximized the window and there was then enough territory to
> actually see and read the stock "diaries".  Perhaps this is enough to
> help you? I have not yet tried to create my own diary, so there may
> be other issues I haven't hit yet.
> 
> If not, a clearer description of "if it worked at all" would be
> helpful.
> 

I doubt it. It took me a while to find that I had to press 'Edit' to
type anything at all. Having made one entry, I couldn't find any way to
add another. According to the instructions, double-clicking on a date
should do it, but nothing happened, the first entry was still displayed.
I opened the filter box and then it wouldn't close, and after clicking
various other things without effect, it hung and wouldn't redraw. 

I closed it and tried again, the first entry had been saved and could
be edited, but it behaved the same and I could add no further entries.
I think 'doesn't work at all' is the only realistic description.
Certainly completely unusable.

-- 
Joe

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#226679

Fromdeloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
Date2020-09-03 20:20 +0200
Message-ID<AL202-2au-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#226664
Dan Ritter wrote:

> If you want to publish a blog, I recommend Pelican. If you don't
> want to publish anything, I recommend using your text editor of
> choice in a directory structure, with one file per day or week
> or month depending on your desire.

Most people did not know that there is a feature in the ical that was
implemented in KDE3 already. So when I open Kontact and go to Journal, I
can write my memories down. I don't know how it looks like in KDE >= 4 or
in Evolution

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#226665

FromHumberto Freitas <humberto.freitas310@gmail.com>
Date2020-09-03 14:30 +0200
Message-ID<AKWxj-79S-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#226663

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Hey Joe,

Just take a look at Emacs <https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/>. It can take care of everything you need. No kidding, everything or most of the things lol ;).

With ORG mode <https://orgmode.org/>, it’s just the perfect tool to keep a diary.

Sometimes it’s the only tool I need to get lots of stuff done, like my journal (with ORG mode), system administration, any SQL database (I usually use postgresql), email management, etc. All of it with just one tool. So good and it’s very old, it’s got already a lot of tests and until now it’s as solid as a software can be. Give it a try, you will not regret. I love it.

Sincerely, 

Humberto Freitas

Cell phone: +244 944 775 334
email: humberto.freitas310@gmail.com
Angola

> On Sep 3, 2020, at 11:50, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:
> 
> I've finally decided I have to keep a diary. 
> 
> In Debian are RoboJournal and Lifeograph.
> 
> Neither of them actually function, at least in sid. Does anyone have any
> other ideas, apart from phpMyAdmin or Mysql Workbench?
> 
> -- 
> Joe
> 

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#226703

Froml0f4r0@tuta.io
Date2020-09-05 00:10 +0200
Message-ID<ALs49-2E4-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#226665
Hi,

3 sept. 2020 à 14:29 de humberto.freitas310@gmail.com:

> Just take a look at > Emacs <https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/>> . It can take care of everything you need. No kidding, everything or most of the things lol ;).
>
Vim does the job as well. Just install VimWiki plugin [1].
You can choose a syntax among 3: VimWiki (default), Markdown and MediaWiki.
You can export your wiki/diary to html easily with a single shortcut if you stick to the defaults.

Of course, if you are not very keen on full text interfaces and especially vim, then I don't really recommend.
But if you are already familiar with vi(m), then it's a way to stay simple/light/straight to the point.

[1] More details on https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vimwiki/vimwiki/master/doc/vimwiki.txt

Best regards,
l0f4r0

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#226666

FromMatthew Graybosch <hello@matthewgraybosch.com>
Date2020-09-03 15:30 +0200
Message-ID<AKXtn-7Lc-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#226663
On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 11:50:36 +0100
Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:

> I've finally decided I have to keep a diary. 
> 
> In Debian are RoboJournal and Lifeograph.
> 
> Neither of them actually function, at least in sid. Does anyone have
> any other ideas, apart from phpMyAdmin or Mysql Workbench?
> 

Crack open your favorite terminal and punch in the following commands.

mkdir -p ~/diary/`date +"%Y"` (once)
nano ~/diary/`date +"%Y"`/`date -I`.txt (daily)

The first command will create a "diary" directory in your home directory
and then create a subdirectory for the current year. The second command
will create a text file named for the current date in the current
year's directory and open it in a command-line text editor.

There's no need to install anything, it'll be compatible with any
software that can read plain text and when you want to search for
particular entries you can use grep.

-- 
Matthew Graybosch		https://matthewgraybosch.com
#include <disclaimer.h>		gemini://starbreaker.org
	 			gemini://tanelorn.city
"Out of order?! Even in the future nothing works."

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#226668

FromHenning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com>
Date2020-09-03 16:10 +0200
Message-ID<AKY65-8dO-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#226663
On Thu, Sep 03, 2020 at 11:50:36AM +0100, Joe wrote:
> I've finally decided I have to keep a diary. 
> 
> In Debian are RoboJournal and Lifeograph.
> 
> Neither of them actually function, at least in sid. Does anyone have any
> other ideas, apart from phpMyAdmin or Mysql Workbench?
> 

I guess you want a blog.
Most simplistic: blosxom


-H


-- 
Henning Follmann           | hfollmann@itcfollmann.com

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#226682

Fromrhkramer@gmail.com
Date2020-09-03 22:50 +0200
Message-ID<AL4lb-3r0-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#226663
Oh, I should have mentioned that the general design goal was / is to build a 
combination of askSam and ZyIndex (old dos / Window programs) for LInux.

On Thursday, September 03, 2020 04:44:14 PM rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, September 03, 2020 06:50:36 AM Joe wrote:
> > I've finally decided I have to keep a diary.
> > 
> > In Debian are RoboJournal and Lifeograph.
> > 
> > Neither of them actually function, at least in sid. Does anyone have any
> > other ideas, apart from phpMyAdmin or Mysql Workbench?
> 
> I've seen the other responses, I just want to throw in my 20 mils:
> 
> I use (to oversimplify) almost plain text files with multiple records in
> each file.  Thus I can have a file named diary (or named something else)
> and just go to that file and start typing.  I can add the record separator
> (and a title / subject, date stamp, and any other meta data I want after
> (or before) I enter the text of the data.
> 
> In its current iteration (the 4th by one method of counting) it uses mbox
> files with mbox multiline mail headers as the record separator (and to
> store the meta data).
> 
> I can search and modify records in the plain text file, I can also read the
> files in an email client, and my intent is to index them (and and an
> indexed search (using recoll).  (ATM, I'm not actually using recoll, I set
> it up some time ago as a "proof of concept" but when I migrated to the
> next computer I didn't bring it along.
> 
> I currently mainly use kate as an editor, with syntax highlighting and
> folding to make it easier to read / access.
> 
> Although I'd like to release it some day, it is not yet in the state I'd
> like to have it in if / when released.
> 
> If anybody wants more details to try it out for themselves, or to work on
> it, let me know.
> 
> The current desire of my work is to migrate to a Scintilla based editor as
> that will give me a wider choice of possible editors, and deal with some
> bugs in the kate implementation (I'd call them kate bugs, but,
> conceivably, they'd say they fixed the bug (after something like 10 years)
> -- I made a half-hearted attempt to adjust my syntax highlighter after
> they claimed the bug was fixed, but it didn't seem to work -- I suspect
> they did something to undo the fix ;-)
> 
> I'd like to get the syntax highligher / folder for Scintilla written in
> C++, but C++ is a major stumbling block for me.  ;-)

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#226683

Fromrhkramer@gmail.com
Date2020-09-03 22:50 +0200
Message-ID<AL4lb-3r0-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#226663
On Thursday, September 03, 2020 06:50:36 AM Joe wrote:
> I've finally decided I have to keep a diary.
> 
> In Debian are RoboJournal and Lifeograph.
> 
> Neither of them actually function, at least in sid. Does anyone have any
> other ideas, apart from phpMyAdmin or Mysql Workbench?

I've seen the other responses, I just want to throw in my 20 mils: 

I use (to oversimplify) almost plain text files with multiple records in each 
file.  Thus I can have a file named diary (or named something else) and just go 
to that file and start typing.  I can add the record separator (and a title / 
subject, date stamp, and any other meta data I want after (or before) I enter 
the text of the data.

In its current iteration (the 4th by one method of counting) it uses mbox files 
with mbox multiline mail headers as the record separator (and to store the 
meta data).

I can search and modify records in the plain text file, I can also read the 
files in an email client, and my intent is to index them (and and an indexed 
search (using recoll).  (ATM, I'm not actually using recoll, I set it up some 
time ago as a "proof of concept" but when I migrated to the next computer I 
didn't bring it along.

I currently mainly use kate as an editor, with syntax highlighting and folding 
to make it easier to read / access.

Although I'd like to release it some day, it is not yet in the state I'd like 
to have it in if / when released.

If anybody wants more details to try it out for themselves, or to work on it, 
let me know.

The current desire of my work is to migrate to a Scintilla based editor as 
that will give me a wider choice of possible editors, and deal with some bugs 
in the kate implementation (I'd call them kate bugs, but, conceivably, they'd 
say they fixed the bug (after something like 10 years) -- I made a half-hearted 
attempt to adjust my syntax highlighter after they claimed the bug was fixed, 
but it didn't seem to work -- I suspect they did something to undo the fix ;-)

I'd like to get the syntax highligher / folder for Scintilla written in C++, 
but C++ is a major stumbling block for me.  ;-)

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#226685

FromDavid Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com>
Date2020-09-03 23:50 +0200
Message-ID<AL5hg-45q-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#226663
On 2020-09-03 03:50, Joe wrote:
> I've finally decided I have to keep a diary.
> 
> In Debian are RoboJournal and Lifeograph.
> 
> Neither of them actually function, at least in sid. Does anyone have any
> other ideas, apart from phpMyAdmin or Mysql Workbench?

Understand that, depending upon jurisdiction, you can be required to 
disclose diaries, journals, calendars, etc., if you are ever involved in 
litigation.


David

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#226691

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2020-09-04 10:50 +0200
Message-ID<ALfzY-2LT-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#226685
On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 14:44:31 -0700
David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> wrote:

> On 2020-09-03 03:50, Joe wrote:
> > I've finally decided I have to keep a diary.
> > 
> > In Debian are RoboJournal and Lifeograph.
> > 
> > Neither of them actually function, at least in sid. Does anyone
> > have any other ideas, apart from phpMyAdmin or Mysql Workbench?  
> 
> Understand that, depending upon jurisdiction, you can be required to 
> disclose diaries, journals, calendars, etc., if you are ever involved
> in litigation.
> 

I don't record things I don't want lawyers to see at all...

I keep all my email, I take screenshots of completed online
transactions and record significant old-style purchases in a receipts
database. I have directories for clients and all the government rubbish.
That takes care of almost all my record-keeping needs. But occasionally
something happens which isn't any of these things. I can indeed just
keep a text file and add to it, but why do that when I have an SQL
database manager online at all times?

I didn't mention it, but I'd like these records to be available
remotely over ssh, which basically means TCP and no routing, which fits
nicely with MySQL/MariaDB. If I use a simple file, or something
web-based, I need OpenVPN for access, which like many Linux
applications, works perfectly some of the time.

-- 
Joe

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#226702

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2020-09-04 23:30 +0200
Message-ID<ALrrs-20C-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#226691
On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 09:40:07 +0100
Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 14:44:31 -0700
> David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> wrote:
> 
> > On 2020-09-03 03:50, Joe wrote:  
> > > I've finally decided I have to keep a diary.
> > > 
> > > In Debian are RoboJournal and Lifeograph.
> > > 
> > > Neither of them actually function, at least in sid. Does anyone
> > > have any other ideas, apart from phpMyAdmin or Mysql Workbench?
> > >  
> > 
> > Understand that, depending upon jurisdiction, you can be required
> > to disclose diaries, journals, calendars, etc., if you are ever
> > involved in litigation.
> >   
> 
> I don't record things I don't want lawyers to see at all...
> 
> I keep all my email, I take screenshots of completed online
> transactions and record significant old-style purchases in a receipts
> database. I have directories for clients and all the government
> rubbish. That takes care of almost all my record-keeping needs. But
> occasionally something happens which isn't any of these things. I can
> indeed just keep a text file and add to it, but why do that when I
> have an SQL database manager online at all times?
> 
> I didn't mention it, but I'd like these records to be available
> remotely over ssh, which basically means TCP and no routing, which
> fits nicely with MySQL/MariaDB. If I use a simple file, or something
> web-based, I need OpenVPN for access, which like many Linux
> applications, works perfectly some of the time.
> 

OK, it's the web, for the moment at least. I made entry and tag editors
this afternoon with phpMyEdit, suitably modified for PHP7 (the latest
pME is fourteen years old). It's a bit clunky, but it will do for now.

-- 
Joe

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