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  how to test disk for bad sector Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-29 05:10 +0200
    Re: how to test disk for bad sector Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-08-29 05:40 +0200
      Re: how to test disk for bad sector Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-29 07:50 +0200
        Re: how to test disk for bad sector David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2020-08-29 10:20 +0200
          Re: how to test disk for bad sector Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-29 12:00 +0200
            Re: how to test disk for bad sector David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2020-08-30 00:10 +0200
              Re: how to test disk for bad sector David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-09-08 06:30 +0200
                Re: how to test disk for bad sector David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2020-09-09 16:40 +0200
        Re: how to test disk for bad sector Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-08-29 19:10 +0200
          Re: how to test disk for bad sector Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-29 22:20 +0200
        Re: how to test disk for bad sector David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2020-08-30 00:00 +0200
          Re: how to test disk for bad sector Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-30 01:10 +0200
            Re: how to test disk for bad sector David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2020-08-30 01:40 +0200
              Re: how to test disk for bad sector Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-30 02:10 +0200
                Re: how to test disk for bad sector David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2020-08-30 02:40 +0200
                Re: how to test disk for bad sector Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2020-08-30 16:10 +0200
                  Re: how to test disk for bad sector Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2020-08-30 16:30 +0200
                    Re: how to test disk for bad sector Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-31 00:10 +0200
                      Re: how to test disk for bad sector Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2020-08-31 04:10 +0200
                        Re: how to test disk for bad sector Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-31 05:00 +0200
                      Re: how to test disk for bad sector Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-08-31 18:30 +0200
                        Re: how to test disk for bad sector Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-31 23:50 +0200
                          Re: how to test disk for bad sector Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-09-01 04:20 +0200
                            Re: how to test disk for bad sector David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2020-09-01 05:40 +0200
                          passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector) Mike McClain <mike.junk.46@att.net> - 2020-09-02 01:10 +0200
                            Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad  sector) Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2020-09-02 01:40 +0200
                              Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad  sector) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-09-02 09:40 +0200
                                Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-09-02 15:30 +0200
                                  Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad  sector) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-09-02 15:40 +0200
                                    Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector) John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-09-02 18:40 +0200
                                      Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad  sector) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-09-02 22:00 +0200
                                        Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad  sector) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-09-02 22:10 +0200
                                        Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector) John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-09-03 01:40 +0200
                                          Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad  sector) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-09-03 12:40 +0200
                            Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-09-02 01:50 +0200
                              Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad  sector) Tom Dial <tddial@comcast.net> - 2020-09-02 09:00 +0200
                              Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad  sector) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-09-02 11:20 +0200
                                Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-09-02 15:30 +0200
        Re: how to test disk for bad sector Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-08-31 20:40 +0200
    Re: how to test disk for bad sector David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2020-08-29 05:50 +0200
      Re: how to test disk for bad sector Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-29 06:50 +0200
    Re: how to test disk for bad sector "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2020-08-29 10:20 +0200
      Re: how to test disk for bad sector Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-29 13:20 +0200
        Re: how to test disk for bad sector Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2020-08-29 13:50 +0200
        Re: how to test disk for bad sector Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-29 14:30 +0200
          Re: how to test disk for bad sector Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2020-08-29 18:50 +0200
            Re: how to test disk for bad sector Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-30 00:20 +0200
              Re: how to test disk for bad sector Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2020-08-30 02:40 +0200
                Re: how to test disk for bad sector Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-08-30 03:10 +0200
                  Re: how to test disk for bad sector Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-30 04:10 +0200
                    Re: how to test disk for bad sector Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-08-30 05:10 +0200
                  Re: how to test disk for bad sector <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-08-30 09:30 +0200
                  Re: how to test disk for bad sector Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2020-08-30 21:00 +0200
                    Re: how to test disk for bad sector Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-31 00:00 +0200
                  Re: how to test disk for bad sector Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-09-02 11:30 +0200
                Re: how to test disk for bad sector Keith Bainbridge <keithrbaugroups@gmail.com> - 2020-08-30 06:00 +0200
      Re: how to test disk for bad sector Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2020-08-29 15:00 +0200

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#226587

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 15:04:46 +0100
Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> wrote:

> On 31/08/2020 14:18, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> > On 30/08/2020 19:02, Long Wind wrote:  
> >> On Sunday, August 30, 2020, 10:20:53 AM EDT, Charles Curley
> >> <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> wrote:  
> >>> Yahoo mail is broken. I encourage Mr. Wind to get another mail reader.  
> >>
> >>
> >> i don't have choice. gmail is blocked in china. i've tried some free
> >> chinese mail provider, they block debian list. (i've sent subscription
> >> request thru their mail service, then nothing happened)  
> > Pretty much all webmail services are bad with regards to proper quoting
> > and interleaved text. Some are worse than others, though.
> >
> > Does Yahoo provide IMAP/SMTP support? Then you can use a real mail
> > client (Thunderbird/KMail/mutt/etc).
> >  
> Yes, it does. Yahoo! are moving over to 2FA authentication everywhere
> (which is obviously not compatible with IMAP/SMTP) so you'll be
> encouraged to create an "Application Specific Password" (that is, a
> long, unique password, which you should use for one instance of one
> application) for tools like Mutt, GetMail etc. I *think* Thunderbird
> supports 2FA, though - use the new account Wizard to assist you.
> 

The switch to the "new" set up is scheduled for 20 October 2020. If you
have a Yahoo Mail account, you should have gotten a notice already
with instruction links for adapting to the new system based on your
OS and email client.  Not needed if you use Yahoo's mail client or Web
access.

I myself use Claws Mail as my email client and Yahoo has had a nasty
habit over the past few years of "timing it out" for security reasons as
"too old." "Too old" means about 2 years.  Currently, I'm still using
Stretch and even the Backports version of Claws won't work with Yahoo
Mail. Works with everything else though. Fortunately, I had an install
of Devuan Beowulf (Buster but without systemd) in a VM for testing, and
the version of Claws there works fine.

My solution to all this has been to delete all my Yahoo accounts and be
done with Yahoo.  Currently, I have only one account left which I'll be
keeping for a few months until I can switch all the contacts over to
the new email account under a different provider.

To our OP in China: check if Zoho Mail is blocked. They have offices in
China -- www.zoho.com.cn  So, I doubt they are. They have both free and
for pay accounts. Lots of features, too.

B

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   On Monday, August 31, 2020, 12:24:54 PM EDT, Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> wrote:  

My solution to all this has been to delete all my Yahoo accounts and be
done with Yahoo.  Currently, I have only one account left which I'll be
keeping for a few months until I can switch all the contacts over to
the new email account under a different provider.

To our OP in China: check if Zoho Mail is blocked. They have offices in
China -- www.zoho.com.cn  So, I doubt they are. They have both free and
for pay accounts. Lots of features, too.

B
surely it's not blocked in china because it has business here. but email's heyday is over, it's replaced by social media. i'm not enthusiastic about new accounts. i have many old mails in yahoo account, i can't just abandon it.  i've just created msn(outlook) account, i'm not using it. i haven't created  Proton mail account suggested by Charles. my memory is poor, i can't remember many accounts and passwords

now i manage to post in yahoo, Thanks anyway!

  

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#226593

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 21:41:06 +0000 (UTC)
Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> wrote:

>    On Monday, August 31, 2020, 12:24:54 PM EDT, Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> wrote:  
> 
> My solution to all this has been to delete all my Yahoo accounts and be
> done with Yahoo.  Currently, I have only one account left which I'll be
> keeping for a few months until I can switch all the contacts over to
> the new email account under a different provider.
> 
> To our OP in China: check if Zoho Mail is blocked. They have offices in
> China -- www.zoho.com.cn  So, I doubt they are. They have both free and
> for pay accounts. Lots of features, too.
> 
> B
> surely it's not blocked in china because it has business here. but
> email's heyday is over, it's replaced by social media.

Social media is for socializing. In business, email and written/typed
mail are still the preferred way to communicate.

> i'm not enthusiastic about new accounts. i have many old mails in
> yahoo account, i can't just abandon it.  i've just created msn(outlook)

Those old/saved emails can be copied to the new account.  That's what I
did when I began deleting my Yahoo accounts.

> account, i'm not using it. i haven't created Proton mail account
> suggested by Charles. my memory is poor, i can't remember many accounts
> and passwords

I can't remember all my account logins and passwords either.  Too
many.  I write it all down.  And I definitely don't store them on my
computer or cell phone, etc. to automatically log me in  Too easy to
hack.

> now i manage to post in yahoo, Thanks anyway!

Whatever works best for you.  But, at least, go into Settings for your
Yahoo Mail account and turn-on quoting for your replies.  You can also
create as signature which can be appended to all you emails, too.

Happy you got your Linux install problem solved.

B

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#226594

On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 at 12:15, Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 21:41:06 +0000 (UTC) Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >    On Monday, August 31, 2020, 12:24:54 PM EDT, Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> wrote:

> > My solution to all this has been to delete all my Yahoo accounts and be
> > done with Yahoo.  Currently, I have only one account left which I'll be
> > keeping for a few months until I can switch all the contacts over to
> > the new email account under a different provider.

> > i'm not enthusiastic about new accounts. i have many old mails in
> > yahoo account, i can't just abandon it.

> Those old/saved emails can be copied to the new account.  That's what I
> did when I began deleting my Yahoo accounts.

> > now i manage to post in yahoo, Thanks anyway!

> Whatever works best for you.  But, at least, go into Settings for your
> Yahoo Mail account and turn-on quoting for your replies.  You can also
> create as signature which can be appended to all you emails, too.

Hi Patrick, does Yahoo Mail have the configuration capability to turn off html
and send plain-text only?

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#226621 — passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 09:41:06PM +0000, Long Wind wrote:
<snip>
> my memory is poor, i can't remember many accounts and passwords

    The more experience you have the harder it is to find the
memory you're searching for. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

    Mnemonics can make passwords relatively easy to remember and can
be very secure if chosen carefully.
    Mom's birthday is 5 May 1919, a secure password is *M05o05m19m19a?
I have an AT&T account and an address I haven't lived at in 50 years is
5535 El Campo, Ft. Worth, Texas 75107, so :A5535t75107t;.
    That should give you the idea, a mix of upper and lower case,
numerals and punctuation selected from things no longer current can make
good passwords easy to remember.
    GRC.com has a password checker
HTH,
Mike
--
It seems to me a little shallow that the Creator of the universes
would care whether He was called Yahweh, Allah, Jehovah, The Great
Spirit, Vishnu or any of many other names rather than caring about
how we carry out His commands.  - MM

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#226623 — Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

On 02/09/2020 06:42, Mike McClain wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 09:41:06PM +0000, Long Wind wrote:
> <snip>
>> my memory is poor, i can't remember many accounts and passwords
>      The more experience you have the harder it is to find the
> memory you're searching for. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Yes, you can't pour a gallon of knowledge into a shot glass without 
spilling a few drops (for those of us old enough to remember Married 
with Children).

I use and recommend KeePassXC under Debian and KeePassDroid under 
Android to manage passwords without online services. They use the same 
.kdbx file format.

Kind regards,

-- 
Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz>
Director
Transient Software Limited <https://transient.nz/>
New Zealand

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#226632 — Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

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On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 11:30:44AM +1200, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
> On 02/09/2020 06:42, Mike McClain wrote:
> >On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 09:41:06PM +0000, Long Wind wrote:
> ><snip>
> >>my memory is poor, i can't remember many accounts and passwords
> >     The more experience you have the harder it is to find the
> >memory you're searching for. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
> Yes, you can't pour a gallon of knowledge into a shot glass without
> spilling a few drops (for those of us old enough to remember Married
> with Children).

And still -- you all know this model is flawed.

After dabbling with mnemonics and things for *years*, I got fed up
with all of that and tried... semi-random passwords. Like those made
up by pwgen.

My hard disk encryption password is 16 characters long, likewise
my backup's encryption (they're different, thanks for asking :)

They look like this:

  tomas@trotzki:~$ pwgen -N 1 -n 16
  ORoonaif5uqueo6o

Less sensitive things, like my login are eight chars.

Of course, that's only good for passwords I use often (the L1 cache,
roughly five entries). For the others, I have an encrypted plain
text file. This last passphrase has to be in cache, like that of
the LUKS disk encryption (ORed with the backup, phew ;-)

The thing is... I didn't know I can easily memorize that until I
tried! It's like getting up early without an alarm clock. If you
trust yourself, it kind of magically works.

I love tech, I'm a geek. But if the only raison d'être of tech is
to avoid discovering one's own capabilities, I'd rather pass.

YMMV, but generally speaking, the quintessence is that yo're capable
of things you never knew of.

Cheers
 - tomás

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#226639 — Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

On Wednesday, September 02, 2020 03:34:30 AM tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> The thing is... I didn't know I can easily memorize that until I
> tried! It's like getting up early without an alarm clock. If you
> trust yourself, it kind of magically works.
 
Until you (and/or your brain reach a certain age, when you start forgetting 
things you once had memorized.  Make sure you have "hard copy" backups 
somewhere (could be on paper, electronic, or ....).

> I love tech, I'm a geek. But if the only raison d'être of tech is
> to avoid discovering one's own capabilities, I'd rather pass.
> 
> YMMV, but generally speaking, the quintessence is that yo're capable
> of things you never knew of.

!!

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#226640 — Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

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On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 09:20:18AM -0400, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 02, 2020 03:34:30 AM tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > The thing is... I didn't know I can easily memorize that until I
> > tried! It's like getting up early without an alarm clock. If you
> > trust yourself, it kind of magically works.
>  
> Until you (and/or your brain reach a certain age, when you start forgetting 
> things you once had memorized.  Make sure you have "hard copy" backups 
> somewhere (could be on paper, electronic, or ....).

I'm millionaire (in years, and in binary, FWIW :)

When a passphrase is long (16) I keep a little scrap until it is memorized.
Then it's in. Things happen, but then, I can be run over by a bus, too.

Cheers
 - t

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#226644 — Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

tomas writes:
> When a passphrase is long (16) I keep a little scrap until it is
> memorized.

I just follow Bruce Schneier's advice and write all of my (random)
passwords down.  I end up memorizing the ones I use most, though.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#226647 — Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

On Wed 02 Sep 2020 at 11:34:27 -0500, John Hasler wrote:

> tomas writes:
> > When a passphrase is long (16) I keep a little scrap until it is
> > memorized.
> 
> I just follow Bruce Schneier's advice and write all of my (random)
> passwords down.  I end up memorizing the ones I use most, though.

This memorisation of a vast number of passwords is the killer, of
course, so writing all passwords down is a good idea. Why not record
them in passwd.text? Then

  scrypt enc passwords.txt passwords.enc

For access:

  scrypt dec passwords.enc

and copy and paste.

A password is required for decrypting passwords.enc. *M05o05m19m19a?
would do nicely. Just a single password to remember. It couldn't get
simpler.

-- 
Brian.

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#226648 — Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

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On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 08:38:41PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Wed 02 Sep 2020 at 11:34:27 -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> 
> > tomas writes:
> > > When a passphrase is long (16) I keep a little scrap until it is
> > > memorized.
> > 
> > I just follow Bruce Schneier's advice and write all of my (random)
> > passwords down.  I end up memorizing the ones I use most, though.
> 
> This memorisation of a vast number of passwords is the killer, of
> course, so writing all passwords down is a good idea. Why not record
> them in passwd.text? Then
> 
>   scrypt enc passwords.txt passwords.enc
> 
> For access:
> 
>   scrypt dec passwords.enc
> 
> and copy and paste.
> 
> A password is required for decrypting passwords.enc. *M05o05m19m19a?
> would do nicely. Just a single password to remember. It couldn't get
> simpler.

Basically this is what I said I do: The passwords I use regularly
are in L1 cache (my head), the others in an encrypted text file
(additionally protected by the LUKS encryption around it).

Cheers
-- t

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#226653 — Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

While storage in a file fine for trivial passwords such as those for
social sites storing important ones on the computer is a bad idea,
encrypted or not.  So is copying and pasting them.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#226662 — Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

On Wed 02 Sep 2020 at 18:31:43 -0500, John Hasler wrote:

> While storage in a file fine for trivial passwords such as those for
> social sites storing important ones on the computer is a bad idea,
> encrypted or not.  So is copying and pasting them.

Storing passords on paper in the clear ok, but encrypted in a file
is not? I do not have any trivial passwords; all are important. Copy
and paste may be dispensed with.

-- 
Brian.

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#226624 — Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

On Tuesday, September 01, 2020 02:42:50 PM Mike McClain wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 09:41:06PM +0000, Long Wind wrote:
> <snip>
> 
> > my memory is poor, i can't remember many accounts and passwords
> 
>     The more experience you have the harder it is to find the
> memory you're searching for. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

+1 ;-)

>     Mnemonics can make passwords relatively easy to remember and can
> be very secure if chosen carefully.
>     Mom's birthday is 5 May 1919, a secure password is *M05o05m19m19a?
> I have an AT&T account and an address I haven't lived at in 50 years is
> 5535 El Campo, Ft. Worth, Texas 75107, so :A5535t75107t;.
>     That should give you the idea, a mix of upper and lower case,
> numerals and punctuation selected from things no longer current can make
> good passwords easy to remember.

That can be a good approach, but a modern approach seems to be tending towards 
multiple whole words, e.g. "book swimming Wednesday conduct" (all together as 
a password.

A password like this can be easier for a person to remember (especially if you 
create a mnemonic to go with it) and be harder for a computer to guess.

I've read articles about the approach, but don't remember enough to explain it 
very well.



>     GRC.com has a password checker

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#226631 — Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

On 9/1/20 17:39, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 01, 2020 02:42:50 PM Mike McClain wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 09:41:06PM +0000, Long Wind wrote:
>> <snip>
>>
>>> my memory is poor, i can't remember many accounts and passwords
>>
>>     The more experience you have the harder it is to find the
>> memory you're searching for. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
> 
> +1 ;-)
> 
>>     Mnemonics can make passwords relatively easy to remember and can
>> be very secure if chosen carefully.
>>     Mom's birthday is 5 May 1919, a secure password is *M05o05m19m19a?
>> I have an AT&T account and an address I haven't lived at in 50 years is
>> 5535 El Campo, Ft. Worth, Texas 75107, so :A5535t75107t;.
>>     That should give you the idea, a mix of upper and lower case,
>> numerals and punctuation selected from things no longer current can make
>> good passwords easy to remember.
> 
> That can be a good approach, but a modern approach seems to be tending towards 
> multiple whole words, e.g. "book swimming Wednesday conduct" (all together as 
> a password.
> 
> A password like this can be easier for a person to remember (especially if you 
> create a mnemonic to go with it) and be harder for a computer to guess.

Four randomly chosen words from the Oxford English Dictionary would be
comparable to a 14 character random (or cryptographically secure
pseudorandom) string chosen from upper and lower case letters and digits.

Much is made of the fact that most people can remember a string of words
more effectively than a meaningless string of letters and numbers.
However, that is not at all self-evident if the common recommendation of
unique and unrelated authentication secrets per account is incorporated.
I have, overall, more than a hundred distinct accounts on systems and
with vendors, nearly all of them unique; I find a password manager
(KeepassX) a much easier way to generate and manage the authentication
secrets, and use a pass phrase word combination only to secure the
password database.

Regards,
Tom Dial

> 
> I've read articles about the approach, but don't remember enough to explain it 
> very well.
> 
> 
> 
>>     GRC.com has a password checker

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#226633 — Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

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On Ma, 01 sep 20, 19:39:53, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> That can be a good approach, but a modern approach seems to be tending towards 
> multiple whole words, e.g. "book swimming Wednesday conduct" (all together as 
> a password.
> 
> A password like this can be easier for a person to remember (especially if you 
> create a mnemonic to go with it) and be harder for a computer to guess.
> 
> I've read articles about the approach, but don't remember enough to explain it 
> very well.

https://xkcd.com/936/

Kind regards,
Andrei
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#226638 — Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

On Wednesday, September 02, 2020 05:16:12 AM Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Ma, 01 sep 20, 19:39:53, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> > That can be a good approach, but a modern approach seems to be tending
> > towards multiple whole words, e.g. "book swimming Wednesday conduct"
> > (all together as a password.

> > I've read articles about the approach, but don't remember enough to
> > explain it very well.
> 
> https://xkcd.com/936/

Ahh, yes, thank you -- one of the most memorable (even though I forgot it) and 
easy to understand!!

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#226588

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 05:46:52AM +0000, Long Wind wrote:
>it's unbelievable that both tests passed
>i've installed debian to it some time ago, it failed
>today i install fedora from usb stick
>while waiting for copying i'm doing something else, not paying attention to pc
>screen. suddenly i find that pc is shutdown
>
>the most unreliable component of my pc is hard disk
>i've installed linux to other disk of same PC, no problem

This isn't a symptom of a hard drive problem, you're probably wasting 
your time with this entire disk testing effort.

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#226526

On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 at 13:00, Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> wrote:

Subject: how to test disk for bad sector

> i believe hard disk has bad sector

# smartctl -t short /dev/<device>
# smartctl -t long /dev/<device>
# smartctl -l selftest /dev/<device>

Documentation:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SMART
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.

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