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[OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

Started byriveravaldez <riveravaldezmail@gmail.com>
First post2020-08-01 04:10 +0200
Last post2020-08-05 09:40 +0200
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  [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server riveravaldez <riveravaldezmail@gmail.com> - 2020-08-01 04:10 +0200
    Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2020-08-01 08:20 +0200
      Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-08-01 14:00 +0200
        Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-08-01 17:50 +0200
        Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2020-08-02 00:30 +0200
          Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-08-02 01:10 +0200
            Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2020-08-02 03:50 +0200
    Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-08-01 09:50 +0200
      Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server martin f krafft <madduck@debian.org> - 2020-08-01 12:30 +0200
        Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server tomas@tuxteam.de - 2020-08-01 14:40 +0200
          Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server martin f krafft <madduck@debian.org> - 2020-08-02 01:20 +0200
        Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server riveravaldez <riveravaldezmail@gmail.com> - 2020-08-02 04:40 +0200
          Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server martin f krafft <madduck@debian.org> - 2020-08-03 01:10 +0200
            Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server martin f krafft <madduck@debian.org> - 2020-08-11 01:20 +0200
    Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-08-01 10:00 +0200
      Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server riveravaldez <riveravaldezmail@gmail.com> - 2020-08-01 11:40 +0200
        Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-08-01 14:10 +0200
          Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2020-08-01 14:30 +0200
          Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-08-01 17:30 +0200
          Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-08-02 06:00 +0200
            Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-08-02 07:10 +0200
              Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-08-02 22:10 +0200
                Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-08-02 22:50 +0200
            Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-08-03 14:00 +0200
              Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-08-03 21:20 +0200
                Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2020-08-03 23:10 +0200
                  Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-08-03 23:30 +0200
                    Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-08-04 03:10 +0200
                  Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-08-04 03:40 +0200
                    Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-08-04 04:10 +0200
                      Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-08-04 04:20 +0200
                        Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-08-04 06:00 +0200
                          Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-08-04 14:40 +0200
                            Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-08-11 06:20 +0200
                              Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-08-11 13:40 +0200
                                Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-08-12 05:30 +0200
                              Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-08-11 14:20 +0200
                                Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-08-12 05:30 +0200
                                  Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-08-12 13:40 +0200
                                    Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-08-13 16:10 +0200
                          Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-08-04 16:10 +0200
                      Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-08-04 14:40 +0200
                      Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2020-08-04 19:50 +0200
                  Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-08-04 13:50 +0200
                    Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-08-04 15:40 +0200
              Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-08-03 21:20 +0200
                Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2020-08-04 02:00 +0200
                  Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-08-04 03:10 +0200
                  Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-08-04 04:30 +0200
                  Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2020-08-04 10:50 +0200
      Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2020-08-01 12:00 +0200
    Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-08-01 13:10 +0200
    Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-08-01 13:20 +0200
    Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2020-08-01 14:10 +0200
    Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-08-01 14:40 +0200
    Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-08-01 14:40 +0200
    Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-08-01 17:20 +0200
    Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server "007@caiway.net" <007@caiway.net> - 2020-08-01 17:40 +0200
      Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server "007@caiway.net" <007@caiway.net> - 2020-08-01 18:10 +0200
    Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2020-08-01 19:50 +0200
    Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2020-08-01 21:40 +0200
    Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server MAS Jean-Louis <jean-louis.mas@imag.fr> - 2020-08-04 16:00 +0200
      Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-08-04 16:20 +0200
      Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-08-04 17:40 +0200
    Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-08-04 17:50 +0200
    Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-08-04 19:10 +0200
      Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-08-04 21:40 +0200
        Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-08-05 09:40 +0200

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#225710

FromHenrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org>
Date2020-08-01 21:40 +0200
Message-ID<Az5wl-4bx-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#225670
On Fri, 31 Jul 2020, riveravaldez wrote:
> Hi, to clarify: I would like to connect to a remote home-machine
> (dynamic IP) through SSH session but without using a third-party
> server (free or paid), just with software running in both machines.

I am not sure if you'd consider a DDNS (dynamic DNS) provider a
third-party.  If so, then my answer does not help you.

Otherwise, look into "dynamic DNS", or DDNS.  You'll need a DNS domain
of your own, and you need to host that domain somewhere that provides
DDNS service.

-- 
  Henrique Holschuh

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#225829

FromMAS Jean-Louis <jean-louis.mas@imag.fr>
Date2020-08-04 16:00 +0200
Message-ID<AA5DY-Cu-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
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Le 01/08/2020 à 04:03, riveravaldez a écrit :
> Is this possible?

> If there's any other simpler way (that doesn't imply the use of any
> third party) please let me know, I could use anything that works.

IPv4 address are becoming rare, and expensive for ISP.
IPv6 is free, and plenty

just ask for a public IPv6 address, if you don't already have one, and
then just

ssh -6 your_computer_ipv6_address

Regards

-- 
Jean Louis Mas

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#225832

FromMichael Stone <mstone@debian.org>
Date2020-08-04 16:20 +0200
Message-ID<AA5Xk-YY-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#225829
On Tue, Aug 04, 2020 at 03:57:43PM +0200, MAS Jean-Louis wrote:
>IPv4 address are becoming rare, and expensive for ISP.
>IPv6 is free, and plenty

Maybe where you are, definitely not where I am. 

>just ask for a public IPv6 address

My ISP is 10 years into a 2 year plan to make them available. Probably 
not a useful way forward for a timely solution.

That said, if you do have IPv6 it's obviously a good solution. It's also 
possible to get an IPv6 tunnel, but since the original request was for 
no third party server involvement that seems like a non-starter.

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#225840

FromAndrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
Date2020-08-04 17:40 +0200
Message-ID<AA7cK-1Hd-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Ma, 04 aug 20, 15:57:43, MAS Jean-Louis wrote:
> Le 01/08/2020 à 04:03, riveravaldez a écrit :
> > Is this possible?
> 
> > If there's any other simpler way (that doesn't imply the use of any
> > third party) please let me know, I could use anything that works.
> 
> IPv4 address are becoming rare, and expensive for ISP.
> IPv6 is free, and plenty
> 
> just ask for a public IPv6 address, if you don't already have one, and
> then just
> 
> ssh -6 your_computer_ipv6_address

That depends again on the ISP, my current one assigns new IPv6 prefixes 
(as well as IPv4 addresses) at every router restart.

Kind regards,
Andrei
-- 
http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

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#225841

FromAndrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
Date2020-08-04 17:50 +0200
Message-ID<AA7mq-1Kw-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Vi, 31 iul 20, 23:03:07, riveravaldez wrote:
> Is this possible?
> 
> Hi, to clarify: I would like to connect to a remote home-machine
> (dynamic IP) through SSH session but without using a third-party
> server (free or paid), just with software running in both machines.

If both ends are more or less "fixed"[1] and you have control over any 
NAT routers at both ends it should be possible to have each machine tell 
the other its public IP on every change.

This will fail if both ends get new IPs at the same time, which, 
depending on how the ISPs in question allocate IPs, could be rare enough 
to not matter in practice.

[1] it's not obvious if the client system is a laptop that might be used 
from various internet connections or a desktop system behind another 
fixed connection with a dynamic IP address.

Kind regards,
Andrei
-- 
http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

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#225848

FromCurt <curty@free.fr>
Date2020-08-04 19:10 +0200
Message-ID<AA8BP-2Gp-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#225670
On 2020-08-01, riveravaldez <riveravaldezmail@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is this possible?
>
> Hi, to clarify: I would like to connect to a remote home-machine
> (dynamic IP) through SSH session but without using a third-party
> server (free or paid), just with software running in both machines.

If the client machine (the one from which you wish to establish the
remote SSH session) has a static, public IP address, you could set up a
reverse ssh tunnel initiated by the destination machine.

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#225855

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2020-08-04 21:40 +0200
Message-ID<AAaWZ-3Zv-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#225848
On Tuesday 04 August 2020 12:43:58 Curt wrote:

> On 2020-08-01, riveravaldez <riveravaldezmail@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Is this possible?
> >
> > Hi, to clarify: I would like to connect to a remote home-machine
> > (dynamic IP) through SSH session but without using a third-party
> > server (free or paid), just with software running in both machines.
>
> If the client machine (the one from which you wish to establish the
> remote SSH session) has a static, public IP address, you could set up
> a reverse ssh tunnel initiated by the destination machine.

this is a shell on its own workspace, all of which belongs to me. I've 
found I can set the $PATH, then export it, and it works for that shell 
only. I want it applied to every shell open in my username.

Thanks

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#225873

FromAndrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
Date2020-08-05 09:40 +0200
Message-ID<AAmbL-2p8-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Ma, 04 aug 20, 15:36:07, Gene Heskett wrote:
> 
> this is a shell on its own workspace, all of which belongs to me. I've 
> found I can set the $PATH, then export it, and it works for that shell 
> only. I want it applied to every shell open in my username.

This doesn't appear to be related to the SSH thread, how about starting 
a new thread about this? I also seem to recall it was recently discussed 
on the list.

Kind regards,
Andrei
-- 
http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

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