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Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD

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On Wednesday 04 March 2020 12:48:57 rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:

> On Wednesday, March 04, 2020 09:47:47 AM Tony van der Hoff wrote:
> > Gene didn't address my problem, but made the very useful observation
> > that disks spinning 24/7 don't really die. Perhaps I shouldn't worry
> > about replacing them.
>
> I wouldn't count on that, for two reasons:
>
>    * everything mechanical wears, and eventually wears out (well,
> maybe not if the bearings are a magnetic suspension type) (no moving
> parts in contact)
>
>    * I suspect most of us don't know whether our disks are spinning
> 24/7 -- some of my computers are up 24/7, but I suspect the disks
> "spin down" when unused for some period of time

Would that not be logged as an access error, followed by a reset/restart 
in the logs?  At the very minimum it should be logged so that the user 
can know the drive is doing that.

The other item that would look identical in the logs is a hot red sata 
drive cable that is failing, which a hot red cable will do, often before 
5 years has elapsed. That particular dye has been known to be a problem 
child since CB radios were imported from the J.A.Pan Company in the 
early 1970's.

The red wire in the microphone cables was always the first to fail.  You 
could pour the copper out of the cut off end of the red wire as a rust 
colored powder.  No matter how much of it you cut off looking for good 
copper to resolder a good connection.  That same plastic dye is still 
destroying hot red sata drive cables. Test by moving the middle of the 
cable while the machine is running with a tail on the log.  If the log 
blows up, replace that cable, preferably with a different color.

In any event I would be watching such a disk with an eye toward 
warrantying it before the warranty expires if a smartctl command to 
disable that "feature" is not available or effective at stopping such 
drive killing non-sense. I understand that W.D. Greens do that so have 
never considered them for purchase.

Do I miss-understand their advertising?

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Advice on upgrading to SSD Tony van der Hoff <lists@vanderhoff.org> - 2020-03-02 12:30 +0100
  Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-03-02 14:00 +0100
    Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD Tony van der Hoff <lists@vanderhoff.org> - 2020-03-04 15:50 +0100
      Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD grumpy@mailfence.com - 2020-03-04 16:10 +0100
      Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-03-04 17:10 +0100
        Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2020-03-04 19:00 +0100
      Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-03-04 18:50 +0100
        Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-03-04 19:00 +0100
          Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD Cindy Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2020-03-04 20:30 +0100
          Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD "007@caiway.net" <007@caiway.net> - 2020-03-05 06:50 +0100
            Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD Klaus Singvogel <deb-user-ml@singvogel.net> - 2020-03-05 08:30 +0100
              Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-03-05 18:20 +0100
                Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2020-03-05 18:30 +0100
                Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD Klaus Singvogel <klaus@singvogel.net> - 2020-03-05 19:00 +0100
        Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-03-05 00:50 +0100
          Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-03-05 01:00 +0100
            Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-03-05 04:30 +0100
              Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-03-05 04:40 +0100
            Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-03-05 09:30 +0100
              Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-03-05 16:20 +0100
                Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-03-05 20:00 +0100
                Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-03-06 00:00 +0100
        Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-03-05 00:50 +0100
      Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2020-03-05 03:40 +0100
  Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-03-02 16:40 +0100
    Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD basti <basti@unix-solution.de> - 2020-03-02 17:30 +0100
      Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-03-02 20:00 +0100
    Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-03-03 09:30 +0100
  Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2020-03-02 19:20 +0100
    Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD Alex Mestiashvili <amestia@rsh2.donotuse.de> - 2020-03-02 20:40 +0100
  Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2020-03-02 20:20 +0100
    Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD Sarunas Burdulis <sarunas@math.dartmouth.edu> - 2020-03-02 20:30 +0100
      Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-03-02 20:30 +0100
        Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-03-02 22:10 +0100
  Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2020-03-03 01:50 +0100
    Re: Advice on upgrading to SSD Geoff <unit735@bigpond.com> - 2020-03-03 10:20 +0100

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