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Re: webmail and email from command line

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 On Mon 19/Aug/2019 03:15:45 +0200 Celejar wrote:
> I think terming Google's decision to call software that doesn't
> implement OAuth "less secure" "evil" is hyperbole that doesn't help our
> broader cause of opposing its breaking of standards, imposing various
> sorts of lock-in, invasions of privacy, etc.


Breaking of standards?  Not sure about the web, but for email
protocols Google counts many active participants and gmail is often
among the early adopters (e.g. ARC).

On the other hand, I am perplexed when I see epic personalities of
IETF standard making, like Brian Carpenter, Dave Crocket, and many
other, preferably use gmail addresses.  Most of them used to prefer
sending from their own mail servers.  Obviously, they find gmail more
convenient...  Of course, protocols will be useless when there will be
just one or two providers.

Even John Klensin, the author of ESMTP, although he uses his own
domain for sending mail through Exim, uses outlook.com for incoming
MX.  Presumably, that's more convenient than maintaining efficient
anti-virus and anti-spam.  Notably, as an SMTP purist, John deploys
neither SPF nor DKIM.

At this point I realize this message is not so off-topic as I had
figured when I hit the reply button.  So, let me mention I'm also
still running my own server.  I use Courier-MTA, which integrates SMTP
and IMAP with maildrop (delivery agent and mail filter) and a plethora
of utilities.  Of course, I recommend it.


jm2c
Ale

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  Re: webmail and email from command line <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-08-14 17:10 +0200
    Re: webmail and email from command line loredana <llcfree@gmail.com> - 2019-08-14 18:10 +0200
      Re: webmail and email from command line john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2019-08-14 18:30 +0200
        Re: webmail and email from command line lena <lena@pangea.org> - 2019-08-16 16:10 +0200
      Re: webmail and email from command line tomas@tuxteam.de - 2019-08-14 18:30 +0200
        Re: webmail and email from command line Joe Dennigan <general@jdenn.fastmail.fm> - 2019-08-14 21:40 +0200
        Re: webmail and email from command line Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-08-16 04:00 +0200
      Re: webmail and email from command line Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-08-14 19:10 +0200
      Re: webmail and email from command line Paul Sutton <zleap@disroot.org> - 2019-08-14 19:30 +0200
      Re: webmail and email from command line Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2019-08-14 20:40 +0200
        Re: webmail and email from command line David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-08-16 03:50 +0200
  Re: webmail and email from command line Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-08-16 04:10 +0200
    Re: webmail and email from command line <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-08-16 10:20 +0200
      Re: webmail and email from command line Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-08-18 23:20 +0200
        Re: webmail and email from command line <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-08-18 23:50 +0200
          Re: webmail and email from command line Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-08-19 03:20 +0200
            Re: webmail and email from command line <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-08-19 10:40 +0200
              Re: webmail and email from command line Nektarios Katakis <nektarios@mail.nektarioskatakis.xyz> - 2019-08-19 11:20 +0200
              Re: webmail and email from command line Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-08-19 15:50 +0200
                Re: webmail and email from command line <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-08-19 17:30 +0200
                Re: webmail and email from command line Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2019-08-19 17:30 +0200
                Re: webmail and email from command line tomas@tuxteam.de - 2019-08-19 17:50 +0200
                Re: webmail and email from command line Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-08-19 18:10 +0200
                Why I mistrust bigcorps [was: webmail and email from command line] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-08-19 19:30 +0200
                Re: webmail and email from command line Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2019-08-19 22:10 +0200
                Re: webmail and email from command line <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-08-19 23:10 +0200
            Re: webmail and email from command line Alessandro Vesely <vesely@tana.it> - 2019-08-19 11:40 +0200
              Re: webmail and email from command line Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-08-19 16:10 +0200
                Re: webmail and email from command line <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-08-19 17:30 +0200
                Re: webmail and email from command line Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-08-19 18:10 +0200
                Re: webmail and email from command line Alessandro Vesely <vesely@tana.it> - 2019-08-19 19:40 +0200
                Re: webmail and email from command line Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-08-19 20:30 +0200
                Re: webmail and email from command line Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2019-08-19 22:00 +0200
    Re: webmail and email from command line loredana <llcfree@gmail.com> - 2019-08-16 14:10 +0200
      Re: webmail and email from command line Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2019-08-16 15:00 +0200
        Re: webmail and email from command line loredana <llcfree@gmail.com> - 2019-08-16 15:30 +0200
          Re: webmail and email from command line Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2019-08-16 19:20 +0200
  Re: webmail and email from command line loredana <llcfree@gmail.com> - 2019-08-20 19:40 +0200

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