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Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size

From	David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size
Date	2019-01-03 03:50 +0100
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On Wed 02 Jan 2019 at 19:17:00 (+0000), mick crane wrote:
> On 2019-01-02 10:24, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 09:40:33AM +0000, Joe wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 09:59:48 +0100 tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > > And next time, try to find a scanner which provides you with a raw
> > > > image. Wrapping images in PDFs is... not elegant.
> > > 
> > > They do this to cater for multiple pages, whereas in my experience,
> > > most scanning is single-sheet. Even the Simple Scan program on Debian
> > > defaults to pdf, something which cannot be configured.
> > 
> > I get this, and offering that option seems to make sense. But forcing
> > it (and forcing an image format like JPEG) doesn't make sense. So
> > either
> > provide the knobs or let the host software do it.
> > 
> > My scanner just transfers the raw image. The scan program is
> > responsible
> > for the transformation to the target format, which I can choose.
> > This is
> > how /I/ want to be treated, as a paying customer.
> 
> having a scanner do PDFs is weird, see Obama birth certificate, how do
> you know is a faithful copy ?
> A piece of paper with marks on it is an image and should be treated as
> such.

If I could be bothered to look, I might be able to come across a raw
sound or video file on this Debian system. It's quite normal to wrap
such raw data in a container format of some sort.

So I can't understand your objection to wrapping a scanned image into
a PDF container, which makes a lot of data handling a lot easier than
would otherwise be the case. An obvious example was already mentioned:
put a document into the ADF, press the button, obtain one file
containing the entire document. Other examples would be postprocessing
with programs like pdftk and pdfjam. Would you really send a scanned
document to a company/institution as a multitude of image attachments
instead of a single PDF?

If you want the image back from a PDF, that's what the pdfimages
program is for. I would assume that tomás is pleased with the
packaging of the raw scan data into an image format of some
description, so what's the difference?

Cheers,
David.

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[OT] scanned files are large in size kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mailinglists@gmail.com> - 2019-01-01 18:40 +0100
  Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-01-01 19:50 +0100
    Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size Anders Andersson <pipatron@gmail.com> - 2019-01-01 20:00 +0100
      Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2019-01-01 20:30 +0100
      Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-01-01 20:40 +0100
    Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mailinglists@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 04:50 +0100
      Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size tomas@tuxteam.de - 2019-01-02 10:40 +0100
        Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2019-01-02 11:10 +0100
          Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-01-02 11:30 +0100
            Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 12:10 +0100
            Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size Chris Ramsden <chris.ramsden@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 12:10 +0100
              Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-01-02 12:40 +0100
            Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 20:20 +0100
              Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-01-02 20:30 +0100
              Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-01-03 03:50 +0100
                Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size Siard <shiems146@kpnplanet.nl> - 2019-01-03 14:10 +0100
                Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2019-01-03 14:20 +0100
                Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 15:20 +0100
                Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size Siard <shiems146@kpnplanet.nl> - 2019-01-03 16:00 +0100
                Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2019-01-03 17:30 +0100
                Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 17:30 +0100
                Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-01-03 21:30 +0100
      Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-01-02 15:50 +0100
        Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-01-02 16:00 +0100
          Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 16:20 +0100
            Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-01-02 16:30 +0100
              Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 17:20 +0100
                Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-01-02 17:40 +0100
            Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-01-02 20:10 +0100
          Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2019-01-02 16:20 +0100
            Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size tomas@tuxteam.de - 2019-01-02 16:20 +0100
          Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2019-01-02 18:00 +0100
            Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-01-03 04:10 +0100
        Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-01-03 03:30 +0100
          Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mailinglists@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 05:00 +0100
            Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-01-04 18:30 +0100
              Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-01-04 19:50 +0100
                Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-01-04 20:50 +0100
              Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-01-04 20:40 +0100
                Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-01-04 21:00 +0100
              Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-01-05 03:20 +0100
  Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-01-01 21:10 +0100
    Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mailinglists@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 05:00 +0100
      Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-01-02 20:20 +0100
  Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2019-01-02 12:40 +0100
    Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mailinglists@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 05:00 +0100
      Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-01-03 06:10 +0100
      Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2019-01-03 09:40 +0100
  Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2019-01-03 14:50 +0100
    Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-01-03 21:50 +0100
      Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2019-01-04 11:00 +0100

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