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Re: Attempting a VERY minimal install (using --no-install-recommends ;)

From Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Attempting a VERY minimal install (using --no-install-recommends ;)
Date 2019-04-24 21:40 +0200
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On 04/24/2019 01:10 PM, Joe wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 12:36:29 -0500
> Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:
> 
>> I'm attempting a very minimal install because:
>> 1. small size in and of itself is a good goal
>> 2. fending for oneself is a valuable educational experience compared
>>      to having everything handed to you on a "golden platter" {Debian's
>>      default installer}
>>
>> My current experiments revolve around defining my personal take on a
>> minimal MATE desktop. Part of the motivation is that some recommended
>> packages clash with ones I wish to use. Just removing offending
>> packages after the fact is unaesthetic.
>>
>> My test machine has both a default install from DVD 1 and my
>> minimalist install. I had done a standard install without specifying
>> any GUI or extra packages.
>>
>> My base setup was installed by doing
>>     apt-get --no-install-recommends install task-mate-desktop
>>     apt-get install pluma gparted synaptic
>>
>> All it lacks is internet connectivity.
>> I have a WiFi hotspot from T-mobile which I effectively use as a
>> modem (WiFi is intentionally disabled). On the standard install it
>> appears eth2 on Network Manager Applet.
>>
>> I used Synaptic to install network-manager-gnome
>> The apparent problem is that connecting the hotspot does dot trigger
>> the "connecting" icon.
>>
>> How do I determine what else I need to install?
>> [Recall point #2 in my first paragraph ;]
>> TIA
>>
>>
> 
> Difficult to say without knowing what you don't have.

Agreed <chuckle>

> Can you specify an 'automatic' connection with Network Manager?

I don't know yet. I've just brought up 4 URLs that the wiki says I 
should read. I had expected the icon for Network Manager Applet to 
appear on MATE's Panel. It does not.

> If not, you probably need dhcpcd.

That's not my problem. It is not present on install DVD 1.
Also on the full install I have on the same machine none of the dhcpcd 
modules listed by Synaptic are installed.

> NM gains abilities according to what helper programs are
> available.
> 

I have some reading to do.
Thank you.

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Attempting a VERY minimal install (using --no-install-recommends ;) Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2019-04-24 19:40 +0200
  Re: Attempting a VERY minimal install (using  --no-install-recommends ;) Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2019-04-24 20:20 +0200
    Re: Attempting a VERY minimal install (using --no-install-recommends  ;) Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2019-04-24 21:40 +0200
      Progress - was [Re: Attempting a VERY minimal install (using  --no-install-recommends ;)] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2019-04-24 22:30 +0200
  Re: Attempting a VERY minimal install (using --no-install-recommends  ;) Georgios <gpdsbe+debian@mailbox.org> - 2019-04-24 20:20 +0200
    Re: Attempting a VERY minimal install (using --no-install-recommends  ;) Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2019-04-24 20:50 +0200
  Re: Attempting a VERY minimal install (using --no-install-recommends  ;) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-04-24 21:40 +0200
  Re: Attempting a VERY minimal install (using --no-install-recommends  ;) mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-04-24 21:50 +0200
    Re: Attempting a VERY minimal install (using --no-install-recommends  ;) Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2019-04-24 22:30 +0200
  Re: Attempting a VERY minimal install (using  --no-install-recommends ;) Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2019-04-25 03:20 +0200
    Re: Attempting a VERY minimal install (using --no-install-recommends  ;) Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2019-04-25 05:10 +0200
      Re: Attempting a VERY minimal install (using --no-install-recommends  ;) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-04-25 07:30 +0200
        iwd and DNS (was: Re: Attempting a VERY minimal install (using  --no-install-recommends ;)) Erik Josefsson <erik.hjalmar.josefsson@gmail.com> - 2019-04-25 11:40 +0200
          Re: iwd and DNS (was: Re: Attempting a VERY minimal install (using  --no-install-recommends ;)) mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-04-25 12:00 +0200
          Re: iwd and DNS (was: Re: Attempting a VERY minimal install (using --no-install-recommends ;)) Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-04-25 12:20 +0200
          Re: iwd and DNS (was: Re: Attempting a VERY minimal install (using  --no-install-recommends ;)) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-04-25 17:50 +0200
  Re: Attempting a VERY minimal install (using --no-install-recommends ;) Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-04-26 11:30 +0200
    Re: Attempting a VERY minimal install (using --no-install-recommends  ;) Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2019-04-26 14:20 +0200
      Re: Attempting a VERY minimal install (using --no-install-recommends ;) Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-04-26 15:10 +0200

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