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(Thank you Tom) Re: David --- Re: WRITING to NTFS drives

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On 3/13/19 3:43 PM, Thomas D Dial wrote:
> On Wed, 2019-03-13 at 11:12 -0400, deb wrote:
>> On 3/12/19 9:50 PM, David Christensen wrote:
>>> On 3/11/19 11:13 AM, deb wrote:
>>>> I saw this question come up
>>>>
>>>> and it set off bells.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Someone asked what the status of WRITING to NTFS drives was.
>>>>
>>>> That it was not yet supported (?) .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *MY* Assumptions:
>>>>
>>>>    * MIXED NETWORK, with Win, Mac, Linux (EXT4 formatted).
>>>>
>>>>    * many portable 1-5TB drives making the rounds, formatted with
>>>> NTFS.
>>>>
>>>>    * data loss is unacceptable [to the highest degree that is
>>>> possible].
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I know that I can read (and verify) files just fine from NTFS on
>>>> Debian 9.8
>>>>
>>>> but [if you have direct experience with this]
>>>>
>>>> is writing to these drives from debian actually safe?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [if you have direct experience with this]
>>>>
>>>> what process/tool(s) do you use to validate the writes?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What are other places to ask this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>> On 3/12/19 4:40 PM, deb wrote:
>>>> I'm faced with people running everywhere with these things, and
>>>> dozens of drives.
>>> Writing to NTFS file systems using Debian has worked for me for the
>>> current and past few releases of Debian Stable.  It is not a common
>>> use-case for me any more, so I'll refrain from making comments.
>>>
>>>
>>> However, it seems like you have a large sneaker net with many
>>> sneakers
>>> and even more feet.  My experiences with a few sneakers and two
>>> feet
>>> prompted me to pursue better solutions (Ethernet network, file
>>> server,
>>> version control server, backups, archives, images, etc.).  I am
>>> curious why you don't do the same?
>>>
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>> Brace yourself.
>>
>> They take the drives back and forth *Home*.
>>
>> (As well as back & forth to clients)..
>>
>> There is equal volume pumping around the LAN as well.
> It appears you have a problem that is more managerial in nature than
> technical, that the best technical measures can do no more than
> mitigate.
>
> Scary. My employment was in a US DoD agency that was pretty careful
> about information assurance generally, where such activity was forbidden
> and punished if found. I do not like to think about having to make it
> work.
>
> I contacted a relative who does this routinely. Windows alternately, I
> contacted a relative who does this routinely about the initial queston
> about writing to NTFS file systems from Linux and Windows alternately.
> Although he does this in a dual boot environment, and with either Ubuntu
> or Mint, they should be similar enough to Debian and the proposed use to
> be meaningful.
>
> He did not report problems with NTFS as such, but mentioned possible
> OneDrive sync issues and inability of Linux to write to a Windows drive
> if it was closed down in a locked state. I knew nothing of such a
> "locked state" and Google search for it indicated only issues that
> suggest prior file system corruption that needed chkdsk or SFC (and
> possibly bootrec, or even Windows refresh or reinstall), so probably not
> a meaningful barrier.
>
> Prior testing would be appropriate, with verification of the 90% or more
> most common use cases, maybe with help of a relatively knowledgable user
> or a few of them.
>
> Tom Dial
>

Thank You!


>

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WRITING to NTFS drives deb <deb@rangingthoughts.org> - 2019-03-11 19:20 +0100
  Re: WRITING to NTFS drives Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2019-03-11 19:50 +0100
    Joe - Re: WRITING to NTFS drives deb <deb@rangingthoughts.org> - 2019-03-11 20:10 +0100
      Re: Joe - Re: WRITING to NTFS drives Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2019-03-11 21:00 +0100
  Re: WRITING to NTFS drives "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2019-03-11 20:50 +0100
    Alexander -- Re: WRITING to NTFS drives deb <deb@rangingthoughts.org> - 2019-03-13 00:40 +0100
  Re: WRITING to NTFS drives Thomas D Dial <tdial@acm.org> - 2019-03-11 21:00 +0100
    Tom --- Re: WRITING to NTFS drives deb <deb@rangingthoughts.org> - 2019-03-13 00:50 +0100
  Re: WRITING to NTFS drives David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2019-03-13 03:00 +0100
    David --- Re: WRITING to NTFS drives deb <deb@rangingthoughts.org> - 2019-03-13 16:20 +0100
      Re: David --- Re: WRITING to NTFS drives Thomas D Dial <tdial@acm.org> - 2019-03-13 21:10 +0100
        (Thank you Tom) Re: David --- Re: WRITING to NTFS drives deb <deb@rangingthoughts.org> - 2019-03-13 21:30 +0100
          Re: (Thank you Tom) Re: David --- Re: WRITING to NTFS drives Linux-Fan <Ma_Sys.ma@web.de> - 2019-03-13 22:00 +0100
            Re: (Thank you Tom) Re: David --- Re: WRITING to NTFS drives Thomas D Dial <tdial@acm.org> - 2019-03-14 03:20 +0100
  Re: WRITING to NTFS drives Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2019-05-28 08:50 +0200
  Re: WRITING to NTFS drives mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-05-29 07:30 +0200
    Re: WRITING to NTFS drives deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-05-29 08:30 +0200
      Re: WRITING to NTFS drives mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-05-29 09:40 +0200
        Re: WRITING to NTFS drives deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-05-29 12:20 +0200
          Re: WRITING to NTFS drives mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-05-29 18:40 +0200
  Re: WRITING to NTFS drives songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2019-05-29 17:40 +0200
    Re: WRITING to NTFS drives Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2019-05-31 09:00 +0200

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