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Re: Mart -- [Solved] [Well, not solved,. but sickened by] Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

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On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 13:53:39 -0400
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:

> > re: apt solving all? I understand it recently had a long-time
> > vulnerability itself...
> > Linux will get hit more as it gets more popular.  
> 
> My point is not that APT and/or Debian is bullet-proof (I live under
> no delusion in this respect).  Just that instead of keeping your A/V
> up-to-date, the GNU/Linux approach to protecting oneself from attacks
> is to keep your OS up-to-date.
> 

Yes, but malware (that does not necessarily exploit a bug) can be
installed on a completely secure (and imaginary!) OS by an incautious
user running as root. 

There is a spectrum of Windows software than runs between evil malware
and legitimate programs, it isn't just black and white, and many
legitimate programs are supplied free but with grey semi-malware
(adware, spyware) bundled in to provide revenue. A laptop manufacturer
who shall be nameless once (allegedly unknowingly) bundled an
https-breaker among the pre-installed junk. It doesn't have to be about
exploiting unfixed bugs. A lot of it is in the whole ethos of the OS
and its hardware and software vendors. That's where free-as-in-beer
makes a huge difference.

-- 
Joe

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Mart -- [Solved] [Well, not solved,. but sickened by] Re: Group  thoughts on: Anti-virus tools deb <deb@rangingthoughts.org> - 2019-03-11 18:50 +0100
  Re: Mart -- [Solved] [Well, not solved,. but sickened by] Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2019-03-11 19:00 +0100
    Re: Mart -- [Solved] [Well, not solved,. but sickened by] Re: Group  thoughts on: Anti-virus tools Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2019-03-11 19:30 +0100
      Re: Mart -- [Solved] [Well, not solved,. but sickened by] Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2019-03-11 20:00 +0100
    Re: Mart -- [Solved] [Well, not solved,. but sickened by] Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools Mart van de Wege <mvdwege@gmail.com> - 2019-03-11 22:40 +0100
      Re: Mart -- [Solved] [Well, not solved,. but sickened by] Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2019-03-12 02:30 +0100
        Re: Mart -- [Solved] [Well, not solved,. but sickened by] Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools Mart van de Wege <mvdwege@gmail.com> - 2019-03-12 15:30 +0100
          Re: Mart -- [Solved] [Well, not solved,. but sickened by] Re: Group  thoughts on: Anti-virus tools David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-03-12 16:10 +0100
            David -- [Solved] [Well, not solved,. but sickened by] Re: Group  thoughts on: Anti-virus tools deb <deb@rangingthoughts.org> - 2019-03-12 23:30 +0100

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