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Re: Encrypted e-mails?

From John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Encrypted e-mails?
Date 2018-09-07 18:00 +0200
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Gene writes:
> As the situation now stands, an encrypted email is a bright red flag
> in front of the bull in a china shop, so they will expend a lot of cpu
> cycles to read it because if it didn't contain sensitive data, it
> wouldn't be encrypted in the first place.

While I find the behavior of the intelligence agencies morally repugnant
as a practical matter they are not part of my threat model.

> The encryption insures that it will be read...

It *may* be scanned by software.  A lot more goes into the decision to
attempt to decrypt an encrypted message than the mere fact that it is
encrypted.  Most likely it results in an addition to a database of IPs
known to emit encrypted messages.  It almost certainly won't be read.

> ...then a small maybe that it will be delivered to the 
> addressee.

It will already have been delivered.  

> If its a trigger msg, you can bet it will be printed for later perusal
> by a grand jury and the digital copy will be delivered to /dev/null.

It will mark the sender and receiver for investigation.  Why would they
tell their enemies that they are reading their mail?
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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  Encrypted e-mails? "Torben Schou Jensen" <tsj@swampthing.dk> - 2018-09-06 16:10 +0200
    Re: Encrypted e-mails? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-06 17:00 +0200
    Re: Encrypted e-mails? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-06 17:50 +0200
    Re: Encrypted e-mails? Dave Sherohman <dave@sherohman.org> - 2018-09-07 15:20 +0200
      Re: Encrypted e-mails? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-07 15:50 +0200
        Re: Encrypted e-mails? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-09-07 15:50 +0200
          Re: Encrypted e-mails? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-09-07 16:00 +0200
            Re: Encrypted e-mails? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-09-07 17:00 +0200
              Re: Encrypted e-mails? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-07 22:10 +0200
                [OT] Was: Encrypted e-mails? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-07 22:40 +0200
                Re: [OT] Was: Encrypted e-mails? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-07 23:50 +0200
                Re: Encrypted e-mails? Martin Smith <tech@smithproductions.co.uk> - 2018-09-08 16:00 +0200
                Re: Encrypted e-mails? mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 21:10 +0200
        Re: Encrypted e-mails? "Torben Schou Jensen" <tsj@swampthing.dk> - 2018-09-07 16:00 +0200
          Re: Encrypted e-mails? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-07 17:10 +0200
          Re: Encrypted e-mails? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-09-07 17:10 +0200
            Re: Encrypted e-mails? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-07 17:20 +0200
      Re: Encrypted e-mails? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-07 17:10 +0200
        Re: Encrypted e-mails? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-07 18:00 +0200
          Re: Encrypted e-mails? Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 18:30 +0200
            Re: Encrypted e-mails? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-08 01:30 +0200
    Re: Encrypted e-mails? pjw <lists.debian@pjw.xsmail.com> - 2018-09-10 21:40 +0200
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