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Re: does btrfs have a feature?

From Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: does btrfs have a feature?
Date 2018-08-16 03:50 +0200
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Another correction below:

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 11:50:03AM +0000, Matthew Crews wrote:
> On 8/14/18 3:26 AM, Stefan K wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I'm just just curious. 
> > In the beginning of btrfs, most blogs, websites, magazins said btrfs will be THE next standard linux filesystem, so now after araound 10years it doesn't look so good, or? 
> > 
> > Who use btrfs in production? What do you think - does have btrfs a feature (because ZFS on Linux is more and more stable, RedHat said we don't want btrfs anymore and focus to xfs)
> > 
> > I use btrfs on some new bare-metal machines for the root-disks, because it has a build-in RAID1 and snapshots, I know LVM and md-raid have also this possibilities but in btrfs it is much easier. I don't use it for data or other things(mail, database, etc), cause it is slow compared to ext4/xfs. I'm also wondering why the hell btrfs don't support ssd's for caching like zfs.
> > 
> > thanks for you opinions!
> > 
> > best regards
> > Stefan 
> > 
> 
> BTRFS is still used by default on OpenSUSE.
> 
> BTRFS has *mostly* feature parity with ZFS, and is considered "stable"
> for every day use, with the exception that Raid5/6 is still extremely
> dangerous to use in production. It also has the benefit of being
> included in the Linux kernel, and is usable by the Debian installer out
> of the box (so you can easily use it in Debian, whereas ZFS on root for
> Debian is not easy)
> 
> https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Status
> 
> Licensing issues with OpenZFS prevent it from being included in the
> Linux kernel, and on Debian by default.
> 
> Personally I use BTRFS on a NAS with RAID10, and I have no problems. The
> main selling point for me is data integrity and repair, something that
> LVM and md-raid do not do.
> 
> BTRFS also makes it extremely easy to expand an array if you add more
> disks, WITHOUT mucking around with LVM and md-raid. Just a simple
> command (something that ZFS cannot easily do at this time)
> 
> btrfs device add /dev/sdX /path/to/array
> btrfs filesystem balance /path/to/array

  “as simple as zpool add <pool name> <dev name>”

>From here:
  http://list.zfsonlinux.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/2018-August/031938.html

Note that ZoL does not yet auto-rebalance (although there is at least
one script around to do it manually - copying files - and rebalance
can also be done manually with: zfs send ...; zfs receive ...


> As an aside, the topic of BTRFS comes up every so often on this list.
> Its worth searching the list archives:
> 
> https://lists.debian.org/cgi-bin/search?P=btrfs&B=Gdebian-user
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 

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does btrfs have a feature? "Stefan K" <Shadow_7@gmx.net> - 2018-08-14 12:30 +0200
  Re: does btrfs have a feature? Matthew Crews <mailinglists@mattcrews.com> - 2018-08-14 14:00 +0200
    Re: does btrfs have a feature? Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-16 03:50 +0200
      Re: does btrfs have a feature? Anders Andersson <pipatron@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 08:00 +0200
        Re: does btrfs have a feature? Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-16 08:20 +0200
        Re: does btrfs have a feature? Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2018-08-16 18:20 +0200
  Re: does btrfs have a feature? Anders Andersson <pipatron@gmail.com> - 2018-08-14 16:00 +0200
    Aw: Re: does btrfs have a feature? "Stefan K" <Shadow_7@gmx.net> - 2018-08-15 11:10 +0200

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