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Re: update hell

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On Thu, 2018-08-02 at 13:32 +1200, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
> On 02/08/18 13:05, Default User wrote:
> > So, if apt-get is for non-trivial upgrades, then why not for daily
> > use?

In my experience, major upgrades using aptitude sometimes get seriously
bogged down resolving dependencies, whereas apt-get and apt generally
run smoothly.

I also have found it generally works better to do apt-get upgrade
followed by apt-get dist-upgrade rather than trying to do it all in one
step, and that with rare exceptions, it all comes out right in the end,
although there occasionally are oopses that require a bit of additional
effort. If there are difference between apt-get and apt other than some
of the command names, I have not noticed them, and now generally use
apt.

Tom Dial

> I use it daily and for trivial upgrades.
> 
> > Not efficient to have multiple choices. Debian, please choose one
> > and
> > deprecate the others.
> 
> Debian is all about multiple choices. Debian tries to include
> everything 
> that meets the DFSG, from choice of init system, filesystems,
> servers, 
> to desktop. Debian is inclusive.
> 
> Choice reduces happiness:
> https://www.ted.com/talks/dan_gilbert_asks_why_are_we_happy
> 
> For enhanced new-user happiness, other distributions provide more 
> curated selections. Once users have become accustomed to a curated 
> subset, the breadth and flexibility of Debian makes it easy to
> reproduce 
> a selection found in a more limited distribution.
> 
> > I patiently await your hate mail.
> 
> You did not mention systemd; no hate mail for you!  ;-)
> 
> Kind regards,
> 

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update hell Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 06:20 +0200
  Re: update hell Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2018-07-27 06:50 +0200
    Re: update hell Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2018-07-27 07:10 +0200
      Re: update hell Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 17:10 +0200
    Re: update hell Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2018-07-31 01:40 +0200
      Re: update hell Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 02:10 +0200
        Re: update hell Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2018-07-31 02:20 +0200
          Re: update hell Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 01:20 +0200
            Re: update hell Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2018-08-01 05:20 +0200
              Re: update hell Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 06:00 +0200
              Re: update hell Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-01 10:00 +0200
                Re: update hell Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 03:10 +0200
                Re: update hell Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2018-08-02 03:40 +0200
                Re: update hell Thomas D Dial <tdial@acm.org> - 2018-08-02 09:40 +0200
                Re: update hell Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-02 09:40 +0200

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