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Re: More info - was [Re: Synaptic fails to fix broken packages]

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On Fri 05 Oct 2018 at 20:31:49 -0500, David Wright wrote:

> On Fri 05 Oct 2018 at 22:36:48 (+0100), Brian wrote:
> > On Fri 05 Oct 2018 at 16:17:22 -0400, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Friday, October 05, 2018 03:40:09 PM Brian wrote:
> 
> > > > I've lost track. Are you using dist-upgrade on stable or unstable?
> > > 
> > > I'm not the OP, but the place where I plan to use (apt-get) upgrade and not 
> > > dist-upgrade is Jessie (Debian 8).
> > 
> > Debian 8 is obsolete; it doesn't even receive security updates.
> 
> That't odd. I just booted up a 2354-package jessie system after
> 10 days and got 46 security updates and a new kernel (the latter
> requiring dist-upgrade, of course). Won't this continue happening
> until 2020-06-30?

https://www.debian.org/News/2018/20180623

 > After this point release, Debian's Security and Release Teams
 > will no longer be producing updates for Debian 8.

I suppose you have LTS in mind? For me, this isn't quite the same degree
of service I've come to expect from the Security Team and I am not quite
sure what I get for my money.

> > dist-upgrade is most unlikely to bring it to its knees.
> 
> I can't follow what the fuss is over whether to use upgrade or
> dist-upgrade. Normally I just upgrade whenever I'm told (by my cron
> job) that  -d upgrade  has downloaded something into the cache; if
> I'm then told that packages are being held back, I dist-upgrade.

I cannot recollect the last time I passed on a dist-upgrade on unstable
after weighing up what was on the screen. Actually, I am getting to like
the 'apt full-upgrade' approach, as opposed to 'apt-get dist-upgrade'.
251 packages this morning to be upgraded and just 1 (libsane) to be
REMOVED.

But the removal is ok because libsane1 is listed as a NEW package to be
installed. It could be libsane1 will make me unhappy but having the time
to investigate isn't always available. So, like you, I'll just do it.

-- 
Brian.

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Synaptic fails to fix broken packages Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-10-03 14:30 +0200
  Re: Synaptic fails to fix broken packages Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-03 16:00 +0200
    Re: Synaptic fails to fix broken packages songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2018-10-04 13:40 +0200
    Re: Synaptic fails to fix broken packages Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-10-04 14:10 +0200
      More info - was [Re: Synaptic fails to fix broken packages] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-10-04 16:10 +0200
        Re: More info - was [Re: Synaptic fails to fix broken packages] Glenn English <ghe2001@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 19:30 +0200
          Re: More info - was [Re: Synaptic fails to fix broken packages] Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 00:10 +0200
          Re: More info - was [Re: Synaptic fails to fix broken packages] mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 06:20 +0200
            Re: More info - was [Re: Synaptic fails to fix broken packages] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-10-05 12:00 +0200
              Re: More info - was [Re: Synaptic fails to fix broken packages] Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2018-10-05 12:10 +0200
                Re: More info - was [Re: Synaptic fails to fix broken packages] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-10-05 13:00 +0200
                Re: More info - was [Re: Synaptic fails to fix broken packages] Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2018-10-05 13:20 +0200
                Re: More info - was [Re: Synaptic fails to fix broken packages] rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-10-05 13:10 +0200
                Re: More info - was [Re: Synaptic fails to fix broken packages] Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2018-10-05 13:30 +0200
                Re: More info - was [Re: Synaptic fails to fix broken packages] rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-10-05 17:10 +0200
                Re: apt 101 (was: Re: More info) Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2018-10-05 17:40 +0200
                Re: apt 101 (was: Re: More info) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-10-05 18:10 +0200
                Re: More info - was [Re: Synaptic fails to fix broken packages] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-10-05 21:50 +0200
                Re: More info - was [Re: Synaptic fails to fix broken packages] rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-10-05 22:20 +0200
                Re: More info - was [Re: Synaptic fails to fix broken packages] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-10-05 23:40 +0200
                Re: More info - was [Re: Synaptic fails to fix broken packages] David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-10-06 03:40 +0200
                Re: More info - was [Re: Synaptic fails to fix broken packages] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-10-06 16:50 +0200
                Re: More info - was [Re: Synaptic fails to fix broken packages] Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-10-06 10:20 +0200
              Re: More info - was [Re: Synaptic fails to fix broken packages] Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-10-05 15:00 +0200

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