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| From | Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.user |
| Subject | Re: Looking for ratings of all-in-one printers for Linux (Ubuntu in particular) |
| Date | 2018-07-10 00:30 +0200 |
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> If you meant hplip drivers, which are available from Debian
> repository, then I wonder what actually makes them so much "from
> Debian"? IMHO, their avalability from Debian repository does not
> really make them particulary "Debian". They are still developed by HP
> or their development is sponsored by HP, aren't they?
The issue is not who writes the code. The issue is whether the code is
available under a Free license such that it can be integrated cleanly
into the OS distribution I use, e.g.
- It works on all the architectures supported by Debian
- The Debian maintainers will take care of compatibility between
different versions of packages. So I won't have to choose between
sticking to some old version of CUPS (for example), or having to buy
a new printer, because the printer manufacturer stopped updating their
driver for printers older than 5 years (say).
- I don't have to check the manufacturer's web-site for bug-fixes and
security updates: `apt-get` does it for me.
> And BTW HP allegedly native to Debian support was always crappy in my
> personal experience (as HP printers themselves). Especialy if compared
> with Brother propriatory drivers, which are flawless.
To each his own. I find such software to be a maintenance hassle.
For that reason I do not have an opinion on HP-vs-Brother in terms of
technical quality of their drivers or their hardware: I haven't had the
opportunity to try Brother's drivers, and I won't as long as it's
proprietary (and IIUC they don't provide drivers that work on my
ARM-based CUPS server anyway).
> The interesting point is that Linux community is always and rightfully
> upset by the fact that manufacturers do not care to provide Linux
> support. IMHO we should then appreciate and support the manufacturer
> when it cares about Linux users, shouldn't we?
I think it's stupid for a printer manufacturer not to provide its
drivers as Free Software and collaborate with the community. It might
make sense not to provide drivers for GNU/Linux at all, but if they have
to go through the trouble of writing the driver, they might as well make
it Free Software. It just makes a lot of commercial sense.
Stefan
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Re: Looking for ratings of all-in-one printers for Linux (Ubuntu in particular) "Juan R. de Silva" <juan.r.d.silva@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 04:20 +0200
Re: Looking for ratings of all-in-one printers for Linux (Ubuntu in particular) Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2018-07-08 04:50 +0200
Re: Looking for ratings of all-in-one printers for Linux (Ubuntu in particular) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2018-07-09 17:30 +0200
Re: Looking for ratings of all-in-one printers for Linux (Ubuntu in particular) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2018-07-09 17:20 +0200
Re: Looking for ratings of all-in-one printers for Linux (Ubuntu in particular) "Juan R. de Silva" <juan.r.d.silva@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 18:30 +0200
Re: Looking for ratings of all-in-one printers for Linux (Ubuntu in particular) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2018-07-10 00:30 +0200
Re: Looking for ratings of all-in-one printers for Linux (Ubuntu in particular) Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-07-10 00:50 +0200
Re: Looking for ratings of all-in-one printers for Linux (Ubuntu in particular) Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-07-10 01:00 +0200
Re: Looking for ratings of all-in-one printers for Linux (Ubuntu in particular) Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-07-10 01:10 +0200
Re: Looking for ratings of all-in-one printers for Linux (Ubuntu in particular) Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-07-10 05:50 +0200
Re: Looking for ratings of all-in-one printers for Linux (Ubuntu in particular) Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-07-10 16:10 +0200
Re: Looking for ratings of all-in-one printers for Linux (Ubuntu in particular) Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-07-10 17:00 +0200
Re: Looking for ratings of all-in-one printers for Linux (Ubuntu in particular) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2018-07-11 16:50 +0200
Re: Looking for ratings of all-in-one printers for Linux (Ubuntu in particular) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-07-10 20:00 +0200
Re: Looking for ratings of all-in-one printers for Linux (Ubuntu in particular) Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-07-10 20:30 +0200
Re: Looking for ratings of all-in-one printers for Linux (Ubuntu in particular) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-07-10 21:00 +0200
Re: Looking for ratings of all-in-one printers for Linux (Ubuntu in particular) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-07-10 21:20 +0200
Re: Looking for ratings of all-in-one printers for Linux (Ubuntu in particular) Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2018-07-11 14:10 +0200
Re: Looking for ratings of all-in-one printers for Linux (Ubuntu in particular) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-07-11 17:20 +0200
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