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Re: Secure email server setup

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On Mon 15/Jan/2018 16:23:54 +0100 rhkramer wrote:
> On Monday, January 15, 2018 04:39:17 AM Alessandro Vesely wrote:
>> Since most email messages are sent in cleartext, it is also worth to note
>> explicitly the difference in terms of privacy between receiving and
>> collecting.
> 
> I don't understand, can you (or someone) attempt to clarify / amplify?

Personal (non-list) email messages happen to contain confidential information,
from innocent shopping preferences to passwords.  Although it is possible to
use end-to-end encryption to safeguard confidentiality, the vast majority of
messages are sent in cleartext.  A good percentage[*] of SMTP servers apply
transport encryption (STARTTLS), so the chances that a message is read in
transit are low.  However, the chances that MX servers can read cleartext
messages is 100%, which hence is the rate of trust users have to grant to their
mailbox providers.  The amount of info that can be extracted is directly
proportional to their AI skills, while what they do with it only depends on how
much greedy they are.

Given this state of affairs, the absence of a clean method for setting up an
email server is particularly obnoxious, IMHO.

Ale

[*] See, for example this 2014 stat:
https://www.facebook.com/notes/protect-the-graph/the-current-state-of-smtp-starttls-deployment/1453015901605223/

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Secure email server setup "J.W. Foster" <jfoster81747@yahoo.com> - 2018-01-14 16:40 +0100
  Re: Secure email server setup rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-01-14 19:00 +0100
    Re: Secure email server setup Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-01-14 20:30 +0100
      Re: Secure email server setup rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-01-14 22:50 +0100
        Re: Secure email server setup Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-01-15 00:20 +0100
          Re: Secure email server setup Alessandro Vesely <vesely@tana.it> - 2018-01-15 10:50 +0100
            Re: Secure email server setup rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-01-15 16:30 +0100
              Re: Secure email server setup Alessandro Vesely <vesely@tana.it> - 2018-01-15 19:00 +0100
                Re: Secure email server setup Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-01-15 20:00 +0100
                Re: Secure email server setup rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-01-15 20:10 +0100
                Re: Secure email server setup Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-01-15 22:10 +0100
                Re: Secure email server setup Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2018-01-15 20:30 +0100
                Re: Secure email server setup rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-01-15 20:00 +0100
                Re: Secure email server setup Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-01-15 21:10 +0100
                Re: Secure email server setup rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-01-17 14:40 +0100
          Re: Secure email server setup Jonathan Sélea <jonathan@selea.se> - 2018-01-15 20:40 +0100
            Re: Secure email server setup Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-01-15 20:50 +0100
            Re: Secure email server setup Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2018-01-15 21:00 +0100
              Re: Secure email server setup Jonathan Sélea <jonathan@selea.se> - 2018-01-15 21:00 +0100
                Re: Secure email server setup Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2018-01-15 22:40 +0100
                Re: Secure email server setup Jonathan Sélea <jonathan@selea.se> - 2018-01-16 11:10 +0100
              Re: Secure email server setup Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-01-15 21:50 +0100
                Re: Secure email server setup Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2018-01-15 22:30 +0100
                Re: Secure email server setup Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-01-16 20:00 +0100
  Re: Secure email server setup deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-01-14 19:50 +0100
    Re: Secure email server setup basti <basti@unix-solution.de> - 2018-01-14 20:10 +0100
      Re: Secure email server setup deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-01-14 22:00 +0100
  Re: Secure email server setup Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-01-14 20:30 +0100
  Re: Secure email server setup Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-01-14 21:20 +0100

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